Didn't expect the 5S to be so popular.

[bjb.butler]

Then look at the non apple benchmarks.

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4 -> 4S: Camera and Siri. Yawn. Half of people don't use Siri.
5 -> 5S: vastly improved camera (two tone flash makes a world of difference), TOUCH ID. I don't know why people are downplaying the touch ID. Probably its hard to see the big picture of touch id and what it will lead to in the future.

TouchID... Who knows when (if?) Apple will open it up to developers. Until then, it's a big yawn. Omg I can unlock my phone one second faster! Until my banking app, amazon, eBay, Starbucks, and PayPal etc can use it, it's all hype.

Returned my 5S and looking forward to the bigger screened 6.

 

[d123]

9mil is a mix of both phones (5c and 5s) and is the "shipped" number, not direct sales. There could be 4mil 5c still unsold with carriers and not to mention how many in Apple Stores as there are no reports of 5c selling out.

5s was extremely limited, maybe you did not readup about it on the news prior to its official launch day. And yes, everyone with 4S's had the chance to upgrade to 5s causing natural demand.

I don't think you are correct in your assumption. I read an article yesterday which stated (with links to an Apple statement) that the way they determine sales is iPhones actually sold and paid for.

I'll try and find the link.

 

[scaredpoet]

9mil is a mix of both phones (5c and 5s)

Independent reports put the 5s vs 5c sales at a factor of 3.4 to 1. So that means roughly 6.3 million of those were iPhone 5s units, and the rest were 5cs. Even throwing away the 5c number (which is silly since that's still money in Apple's pocket), that's still more than the iPhone 5 launch last year.

and is the "shipped" number, not direct sales. There could be 4mil 5c still unsold with carriers

The numbers listed above don't bear that out at all. even assuming not a single person bought a 5c, that's 2.6 million 5c units in the inventory channel.

But it's pretty evident that didn't happen.

5s was extremely limited, maybe you did not readup about it on the news prior to its official launch day. And yes, everyone with 4S's had the chance to upgrade to 5s causing natural demand.

And what's wrong with that, exactly? Those people were free to migrate away to Android or Windows Phone, and yet they didn't.

 

[emseven]

Went into my local Apple store yesterday and before I could even ask for stock they already had a Apple printed sign hanging in the window "All out of stock."
I figure with the phone being so similar to the 5 people wouldn't really care about it. Then just out of curiosity I spoke to the guy and he said all local stores sold out, online sold out, and they disabled buying it via iphone and picking it up in stores. So my question is, Are there that many fanboys or was Apples stock that low to begin with?

It is so ill-informed to look at the physical exterior and say it's not worth the upgrade that I thought not to bother responding.

Raise your hand if you owned two Airs in the past four years. MacBook Pros; more than one since unibody?

 

[joshdammit]

they were all gifts , I didn't spend a single dime on any of them, except the monthly bills of course

All five devices were gifts? Including a MacBook? Who bought them for you? Your parents? If that's the case I have to wonder why they'd continue buying you Apple products.

My guess is because you keep asking for them. But yeah, the rest of us are iSheep. Right.

 

[MH01]

It's always the same.

People say Apple is doomed and isn't innovating.
Then everyone who already has last years model buys the next one.

(I did the same)

I think it's kind of funny. Everyone I know has upgraded as well.

Not sure about the doomed bit, seems this is just MR talk.

Ad for innovation, jury is out. 2013 has not exactly been a WOW year in terms of innovation, most advancement has been due to 3rd parties like Intel mostly in the form on new CPUs.

 

[user-name-here]

All five devices were gifts? Including a MacBook? Who bought them for you? Your parents? If that's the case I have to wonder why they'd continue buying you Apple products.

My guess is because you keep asking for them. But yeah, the rest of us are iSheep. Right.

Love it

A cold, calculated response with enough logic to make the person look like a fool for putting down others.

Keep up the good work :thumbsup:

 

[ElectronGuru]

I don't know why people are downplaying the touch ID. Probably its hard to see the big picture of touch id and what it will lead to in the future.

There are layers of complication and confusion.

Touch ID offers individual advantage with faster log in, but as said above, a few seconds aren't much. The real advantage is group: this is part of a larger strategy to make i devices harder resell after theft, making everyone safer. Make it easier and it's more likely be left on. But this isn't a feature you can put on a bullet list. And it's not exciting because it's not new. Apple spent hundreds of millions to acquire the tech, but it doesn't look/feel much different than the same feature found on a thinkpad 10 years ago. Practical just ain't sexy.

The larger issue is benefit of the doubt. Some companies have it and some don't. Microsoft is expected to succeed. So failure after failure, they still look good. Apple is expected to fail, so success after success, they still look bad. Thats a degree of doubt even 9M units won't dissuade.

And we still miss Steve. For him, the point of finding some new tech (like USB or wifi) was all in preparation for the moment of applause when he got to show it to the world. That degree of passion cannot be duplicated and will not return. And it's that passion that created the excitement that everybody misses. Without it, each new release feels a bit less special. It's life without one more thing.

 

[weckart]

All five devices were gifts? Including a MacBook? Who bought them for you? Your parents? If that's the case I have to wonder why they'd continue buying you Apple products.

My guess is because you keep asking for them. But yeah, the rest of us are iSheep. Right.

Just because the OP is so obviously yanking your chain, there is no requirement to dance. He trolled and so many bit.

 

[Steviejobz]

they were all gifts , I didn't spend a single dime on any of them, except the monthly bills of course

Pretty weak comeback. If you didn't love the products then why would your parents give them to you as "gifts". Pretty sure you're begging mommy and daddy for another iSheep gift. Baaaa baaaaa

 

[joshdammit]

Just because the OP is so obviously yanking your chain, there is no requirement to dance. He trolled and so many bit.

I can't help it. I JUST CAN'T RESIST.

WHY CAN'T I ONLY DO IT A LITTLE BIT??

 

[AAPLinc]

It IS pretty different from the 5. It's the biggest "S" update ever. Some people get too caught up in "oh the physical design is the same" but it really is a pretty big leap. Bigger than 3G-3GS, and 4-4S.

Actually, speed wise it's the same. 4S was 2x faster than 4, 5 was 2x faster than 4S and the 5S is 2x faster than 5. 5S has touch ID, 64 bit and camera upgrades, good upgrade yes if you're coming from a 4 or 4S. 4S had camera upgrades (wayyyy better than 4 camera), dual core A5 and HD video not to mention Siri, which was a huge thing at the time. So no, I really have to disagree, the 5S isn't the biggest S upgrade in history.

 

[Indecisi0n]

Well at the mall buying shoes I stopped into the Apple store and they have some in stock and I figure I'd give it a try (4S was on its last leg). So far it's like my 4S just a lot faster and the battery holds a good charge. Still lacking in screen size but I guess we wont see that change until the 6.

 

[munakib]

3.4 to 1 seems like a logical estimate/fact but how many 5c's were actually "sold"? You couldnt prove that 9mil phones were all sold. if 6mil were sold to customers directly (apple entered the chinese market and I am sure supplied a few million to their carriers, not to mention extending their retail footprint across the world) that comes to 4.6 mil 5S's (1.4 5c's) which is close to last years numbers.

In no part of my reply was there a talk of money going to apple or not.
I was replying to the quote below, and you need to understand the context first before writing your reply.

WHat do you mean apple's stock was low to begin with? 9 million phones sold on launch weekend is more than any other launch. They had MORE stock this year than any other year.

So unless you get a source/fact regarding how many 1C's or 5S's were sold, the jury is still out. Do you not think Apple would love to clarify we sold 7mil 5s's? Why havnt they? When did Apple ever join two product lines to come to a final figure under "Shipped" and not sold, it seems fishy at best.

Independent reports put the 5s vs 5c sales at a factor of 3.4 to 1. So that means roughly 6.3 million of those were iPhone 5s units, and the rest were 5cs. Even throwing away the 5c number (which is silly since that's still money in Apple's pocket), that's still more than the iPhone 5 launch last year.

The numbers listed above don't bear that out at all. even assuming not a single person bought a 5c, that's 2.6 million 5c units in the inventory channel.

But it's pretty evident that didn't happen.

And what's wrong with that, exactly? Those people were free to migrate away to Android or Windows Phone, and yet they didn't.

 

[burgman]

they were all gifts , I didn't spend a single dime on any of them, except the monthly bills of course

As if that matters

 

[takeshi74]

I figure with the phone being so similar to the 5 people wouldn't really care about it.

Precisely why you can't extrapolate what others preferences are based solely on your own. Further, not everyone buying the 5s owned the 5 so similarity wasn't relevant to people in that situation.

I'm not sure why "similarity" matters anyway. Every model has been similar to the prior model yet all models have sold well. Try looking at history rather than relying on your preferences for such assessments.

 

[Donoban]

It IS pretty different from the 5. It's the biggest "S" update ever. Some people get too caught up in "oh the physical design is the same" but it really is a pretty big leap. Bigger than 3G-3GS, and 4-4S.

3GS, double the ram, double the CPU performance, introduction of the gyroscope.

4S, single to dual core, Siri and a huge improvement to the camera

5S is on par with previous upgrade - touch ID, faster cpu and M7 chip.

 

[eoblaed]

I figure with the phone being so similar to the 5 people wouldn't really care about it.

That's because it's not that similar. It's a pretty sizeable upgrade. Don't listen to the detractors, they come out in force every release, and especially for the 'S' releases.

It's a kick ass phone. I upgraded from a 5 and am extremely happy I did.

 

[eoblaed]

Touch ID offers individual advantage with faster log in, but as said above, a few seconds aren't much.

They're huge. As often as I access my phone , especially with one hand, just letting my thumb rest on the home button for a fraction of a second instead of having to swipe-tap-tap-tap-tap-tap-tap-tapOK every damned time is a huge convenience. And many times I typo my passcode, so that process gets at least partially repeated. The time savings and convenience are a godsend.

but it doesn't look/feel much different than the same feature found on a thinkpad 10 years ago. Practical just ain't sexy.

The tech is 100% different, shockingly faster, and dramatically more reliable.

And sexy? If the 5S had /only/ TouchID as a differentiating feature from the 5, I still would've upgraded to it; that's how much I was looking forward to it, and I wasn't alone.

 

[Lucille Carter]

Let us guess OP. You are not getting a 5S

 

[Adelphos33]

Tens of millions of people were running 3GS, 4, and 4S phones as of a few months ago. A minority of users upgraded every year. The new iPhone (no matter how big of an upgrade it is over the previous phone) is always a big deal to those with older phones.

 

[yodaxl7]

3.4 to 1 seems like a logical estimate/fact but how many 5c's were actually "sold"? You couldnt prove that 9mil phones were all sold. if 6mil were sold to customers directly (apple entered the chinese market and I am sure supplied a few million to their carriers, not to mention extending their retail footprint across the world) that comes to 4.6 mil 5S's (1.4 5c's) which is close to last years numbers.

In no part of my reply was there a talk of money going to apple or not.
I was replying to the quote below, and you need to understand the context first before writing your reply.


So unless you get a source/fact regarding how many 1C's or 5S's were sold, the jury is still out. Do you not think Apple would love to clarify we sold 7mil 5s's? Why havnt they? When did Apple ever join two product lines to come to a final figure under "Shipped" and not sold, it seems fishy at best.

Similar argument can be made about last year. Apple did not say how many of the 5mil sold were 4s or 5. Also, Apple distributed to more places this year and thus spread thin in the supply to USA and other major markets. Also, more US carriers and others were also selling them, too.

Guess, we will know for sure when Apple does the earnings in Oct.

 

[boomhower]

This happens every time and S model comes out. Critics say it's almost the same phone but yet Apple sells everyone it can manufacturer for months.

That said, this release is a little different than in the past. They released in more total countries with one of those being the massive market of China. And Apple has said they have sold 9 million phones but aren't separating the two models so it's hard to say how the 5S is doing compared to previous releases. Yeah, they are sold out but we don't know how many they built.