different between cellular and non cellular

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  1. tbluhp macrumors 6502a

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    what is the difference between the cellular iwatch4 and the non cellular model other then LTE like why would someone want the LTE for?
     
  2. StumpyBloke macrumors 6502a

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    So you can make and receive calls without your phone with you.
     
  3. perezr10 macrumors 6502a

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    On the Series 3 there was also a storage difference. The LTE watch got 16gb vs 8gb for the non-LTE. With the Series 4 I think they all get 16gb.

    So other than LTE, I think they are the same.

    I highly recommend cellular though. I use mine all the time.
     
  4. niji Contributor

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    hi
    question.
    does a Series 4 Cellular watch need to have an iPhone turned on and accessible on a WiFi or cellular network in order for the Watch to be able to receive and send calls, when the iPhone is not physically near the watch?
    i know that you can just wear the watch and be outside with it and while the phone is actively on a network you can get and send calls from the watch, but my question is, does the iPhone need to be on either Wifi or cellular in order for the watch to be able to get and send calls?
     
  5. StumpyBloke macrumors 6502a

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    No. That’s the whole point of the cellular model. It doesn’t rely on the phone at all for calls. The watch itself has its own esim.

    (Assuming I’ve read you right)
     
  6. Sweet Pikake macrumors member

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    StumpyBloke is correct, the cellular has its own phone number and in US, in order to work as you specified, it has to be activated with the carrier
     
  7. StumpyBloke macrumors 6502a

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    Yip same in the UK too (and everywhere I would assume).
     
  8. niji Contributor

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    many thanks.
    so the following is correct:
    apple Watch Series 4 can receive and send LTE calls, even if the iPhone that was used to activate the service is fully turned off and not connected to any network.
     
  9. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    The reason someone would want LTE, is just have independency away from the iPhone. For example, if you were going to the grocery store, you could use your Apple Watch to take or receive a phone call/message, or if you want to leave your phone in the hotel room if you were away, that Apple Watch could serve a purpose for a quick phone call or message. You can also stream your music directly from your Apple Watch to The AirPods as another example with the ability of LTE.
     
  10. Nell macrumors 6502a

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    As other have said, the point of the LTE watch is still being able to make calls when you’re away from your phone.

    I almost always have my phone with me but having LTE is really worth it for me so that I can still make/receive calls if I forget to put my phone in my pocket before leaving home and for when my phone battery dies.
     
  11. Jimpilot macrumors 6502a

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    If we could just get email and a few other apps updating while away from phone it would be perfect
     
  12. Pseudo-Fed macrumors 6502

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    I believe you can e watch to dial 911 even if cellular not active. US requirement at least.
     
  13. asfalloth macrumors regular

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    On my S4 Apple Watch my emails and texts also update when away from phone.

    Joe.
     
  14. Jimpilot macrumors 6502a

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    What email program are you using? My S4 Outlook doesn’t update over cellular
     
  15. AttilaTheHun macrumors 65816

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    How about data is the rest of the APPs work too if just LTE is on iPhone left home
     
  16. dave006 Contributor

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    In addition to being able to make / receive phone calls directly using only your LTE watch, you can also stream Apple Music without the need to have your iPhone with you when you have LTE provisioned and enabled on your watch.

    You can also send / receive SMS / MMS Txt messages using just your watch, however your iPhone must be on and connected to your carrier's network, you just don't need it with you and your watch ( you can leave your iPhone in your car or at home ). You can also send / receive iMessages using just your watch.

    Dave
     
  17. AttilaTheHun macrumors 65816

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    Can I use my health APPS?
     
  18. parseckadet macrumors 65816

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    I think your problem is that you're using Outlook. I use the built-in Mail app and it updates normally.
    Yes, your apps will all work normally
    Yep.
     
  19. rgyiv macrumors regular

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    That seems silly and disappointing to hear. I use Outlook for work and would want to get my emails if I opted for LTE.
     
  20. Mike Boreham macrumors 68000

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    I didn’t realise the watch has a separate number. So if you want to receive calls which go to your phone, does that mean you have to set up call divert to your watch before leaving the phone at home?
    --- Post Merged, May 10, 2019 ---
    Just been googling this and seems it doesn’t have a separate number.
     
  21. StumpyBloke macrumors 6502a

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    No. Your provider does it all so its transparent to you and any callers.
     
  22. catean macrumors 6502

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    Can you turn off the phone and the Apple Watch will still work ? If I leave my phone at home without switching it off, when I receive a phone call will both the phone and the watch ring?
     
  23. parseckadet macrumors 65816

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    You’re confusing Outlook the application and Exchange, the mail server/protocol behind the scenes. The build in app on iOS does allow you to add Exchange mail accounts for use with the built in application. I did this with my email at my previous job. (My current employer doesn’t allow accessing email on personal devices at all). You would need to ask the IT folks in your office for details on how to do this, as they’ll need to give you server names and whatnot. If they insist that you MUST use the Outlook iOS app, then they have either done something on the server side to make this the case, or they are just being belligerent. Either way, at that point it’s not a failing of the device.

    If Microsoft is not able to write a watch app that works correctly, I fail to see how that’s Apple’s fault.
     
  24. myapple2019 macrumors member

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    Yes. You can. That is the main reason I got the cellular version.
     
  25. BigMcGuire Contributor

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    I am definitely considering an LTE watch next time I upgrade. Having to jog with my iPhone on my waist is not terrible but it would be nice not to. I stream music to my Airpods from my iPhone - and it gives me the ability to dial 911 if there is an emergency.

    Not necessarily looking forward to the $13/mo x years just to have my watch use my cellular plan. But I have noticed more people just using their watches when they go out. It is very enticing.
     

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