So what. Apple probably won't make the API available to 3rd party apps anyway.
Apple can and will announce new products and services at special media events.
Better to take the time to get it right.
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So what. Apple probably won't make the API available to 3rd party apps anyway.
Apple can and will announce new products and services at special media events.
Better to take the time to get it right.
But Google JUST launched this on Wednesday!
I read somewhere (sorry no source) that the last major label signed on right before the I/O - maybe the labels were using Google's negotiating as leverage because they knew they'd pay more than Apple to set the standard. Actually, as I write that out, that makes a lot of sense and I'd bet that's what's happened.
I just don't get what Apple is trying to offer. A service is either on demand or it's not, "some on demand features" just doesn't make any sense. And the article says they're not going to offer something similar to spotify or pandora (hence the extra negotiation) yet none of the reports have mentioned anything that goes beyond the existing services.
I suppose I could have given it more time before judging it. Hopefully there will be an iOS app out soon.
How so? Neither party NEEDS this deal to go through. Both parties probably want this to go through. Buzz only works on internet forums. Remember, these are record companies were discussing. This $ is their motivation, and I'm not saying that as a derogatory comment. It just is what it is.
IMO launching a half-baked idea, when everyone would know it's half-baked doesn't sound like a good business plan. Definitely doesn't sound like Apple.
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I mean, I don't think they are DOOMED - however, we have seen a significant slump out of apple in the last six months. That's undeniable. What remains to be seen is if they will once again spring board ahead of the competition with something that completely blows us all away. As someone who has bought A LOT of apple tech, I am for the first time considering switching
. I know a lot of my loyal apple friends have already made the jump and bought SIV's and HTC One's (BTW it is an incredible phone if you haven't played with it yet), and with all of the recent Google announcements, I understand why. We need a comparable, but better version of everything Google is offering out of apple ios and OSX, along with a wide range of superior, fresh hardware. And realistically, we need it asap, not in October.
Let the "Apple is doomed" or "Apple is catching up" comments begin now......
I mean, I don't think they are DOOMED - however, we have seen a significant slump out of apple in the last six months. That's undeniable. What remains to be seen is if they will once again spring board ahead of the competition with something that completely blows us all away. As someone who has bought A LOT of apple tech, I am for the first time considering switching
. I know a lot of my loyal apple friends have already made the jump and bought SIV's and HTC One's (BTW it is an incredible phone if you haven't played with it yet), and with all of the recent Google announcements, I understand why. We need a comparable, but better version of everything Google is offering out of apple ios and OSX, along with a wide range of superior, fresh hardware. And realistically, we need it asap, not in October.
Uh, Spotify already does this? Spotify is on-demand, *and* it has radio service. And a web player.
I know Apple likes to think they invent everything, but this has been done, and I use it on a daily basis.
I know everyone's excited for this to happen, but to me it just represents one more thing I love that Apple will lock down to their own service on the AppleTV. There's no reason not to have an Amazon Video app, a Pandora app or a Spotify app on the AppleTV other than Apple once again trying to lock out the competition.
Google tries to be platform agnostic so I'd hope so. I think Apple would have more of a problem with this than Google since it's a per user fee for Google, but there's no way Google would let Apple have that cut. Not sure how that would work since it's a service that is web based.
Let the "Apple is doomed" or "Apple is catching up" comments begin now......
These types of comments are getting just as bad as "apple is d00med" crap.
You'd think by now that content provides would have learned that whatever Apple touches turns to gold. You'd be a fool to not jump onto anything Apple had to offer. They're all so busy trying to squeeze every last dime out of their dying business models that they just don't see that the world we live in is not what it was 10 years ago. They need to realize that the old business model doesn't work anymore.
I gotta say, getting into the podcast realm makes it feel like music and tv are just busying themselves digging their own graves.
They won't get a penny from me.
They won't get a penny from me.
I think its hilarious and ironic that we scream for innovation yet ask questions like "What else could Apple come up with that isn't like Pandora or Spotify".....
That would be the point.....something completely new that we haven't thought of yet....I, for one will wait and see (while taking Google up on its free 30-day trial of All-Access).
The other thing in Google's service vs. Apple's is Apple has a larger library of music to offer listeners.
Just look at the Great Gatsby soundtracks.....Google's has 7 tracks (with others being available through various other albums like Jay-Z's No Church and Jack White's song), whereas iTunes has 15+ tracks all available through the soundtrack without having to search for other versions.
That would be the point.....something completely new that we haven't thought of yet....I, for one will wait and see (while taking Google up on its free 30-day trial of All-Access).
The other thing in Google's service vs. Apple's is Apple has a larger library of music to offer listeners.
Just look at the Great Gatsby soundtracks.....Google's has 7 tracks (with others being available through various other albums like Jay-Z's No Church and Jack White's song), whereas iTunes has 15+ tracks all available through the soundtrack without having to search for other versions.
Doubtful. Back before iTunes, people listened to the radio and bought albums by the artists that they liked the most. This is no different.
If I was buying 10 truck loads of oranges, I would expect to pay a lower price per orange than someone who buys 2 cases.
Yeah and look who got fired over it. So basically the Verge is telling us launching a Spotify copycat(like Google did) is easy but whatever Apple is attempting to do is not (most likely because its not a direct copy of Spotify or Pandora).
Where do comments like "they think they invent everything" come from? I don't recall Apple ever stating that they think they invented anything. What they claim to do is improve existing technology and provide the best customer experience possible.
Agreed. Apple is not trying to clone the competition like google. Apple is trying to 1up the competition. And that is not easy to achieve. Takes time.
That would backfire a lot in the worst case...
Remember: media industry doesn't give a ***** about bad press... Everyone hates them already - nothing to lose.
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Sorry, no mystery here.
Apple is trying to get as much money out of this as they can.
Don't forget, they currently make a ton on itunes - and this (and other services already out there) is going to hurt that revenue stream, right?
Apple is trying to get as much money out of this as they can.
Don't forget, they currently make a ton on itunes - and this (and other services already out there) is going to hurt that revenue stream, right?
I am patiently waiting. I've tried all music services except for MOG, and they all have their flaws, though of course nothing is perfect, but I'd rather have a music service from Apple so that it can fit with the iOS ecosystem.
Has anyone tried MOG? Is it any good?
Has anyone tried MOG? Is it any good?