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DigiTimes Reports PowerBook G5 and iBook G5 Contracts
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G4 = 32 bit processor.
G5 = 64 bit processor.
it's not so much a speed issue- it's a processor architecture issue.
as said before, they are probably releasing something low-power to work with the next generation OS (later releases of OS X, 11?) - 64 bit architecture is backwards compatable to 32 bit apps, but if someone wants to run something that optimizes the 64 bit environment, wouldn't it be wise to move the entire product line up to that point?
my feeling is that the new OS will be 64-bit native, and therefore only G5s and later would be compatable...
just my thoughts...
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G5 = 64 bit processor.
it's not so much a speed issue- it's a processor architecture issue.
as said before, they are probably releasing something low-power to work with the next generation OS (later releases of OS X, 11?) - 64 bit architecture is backwards compatable to 32 bit apps, but if someone wants to run something that optimizes the 64 bit environment, wouldn't it be wise to move the entire product line up to that point?
my feeling is that the new OS will be 64-bit native, and therefore only G5s and later would be compatable...
just my thoughts...
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No reason to credit anyone for posting this here first....
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/1213376/
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/1213376/
Porshuh944turbo said:
GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS THIS WAS A TYPO!!!!! READ THE ARTICLE AND YOU'LL SEE FOR YOURSELF. WOULDN'T YOU THINK THEY WOULD MAKE A BIGGER DEAL ABOUT IT RATHER THAN A BLURB OF WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO READ "iBook G4"?
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20050114A7040.html
isgoed said:
Eeeeee... Wrong answer. The Shuffle's perfect for the market nitch. Not everyone wants all the extra features, capacity or cost of the bigger iPods.
Volume indicator: your ears
Screen: unnecessary drain of battery - shuffle, play or ffwd.
Clock: who needs another dumb device with a clock on it.
Apple's hit the price point with the iPod Shuffle.
pubwvj said:
I think the shine will comeoff iPod Shuffle as soon as the moto phones start appearing with at least a half gig of memory. Once that happens (assuming they are different versions of candy bar & flip) the market will adjus and seperate flash players in general will give way over the next few years to converged phones - because most everyone carries a phone anyway.
Back in November Think Secret was reporting on the 970GX and a low power version of the 970 for the PowerBook. The 970GX was reported as being ready Q1 or Q2 2005 although there is no indication when the low power version might be available. Think Secret has gained substantial credibility recently with it's reporting prior to MWSF. Of course there's not a lot of information here, all it really says is that PB's are due for a rev and we might see the low-power G5, the new Freescale 7448 e600 core, or obviously the 7447b that appears to be able to reach speeds of up to 1.7GHz. The smart money would probably be on the 7447b for a rev. and then it's anyone's guess, maybe the low-power G5 for a refresh later in the year.
jadam said:
Personally longer battery life is more important. I would much rather see a dual core G4 with the ability to halve and zero the cycles on each core to adjust to user needs thus conserving battery power.
The other thing is I want to see real world ruggedness. The new PowerBooks are too fragile. I've dropped my Pismo twice, while running no less, and it's still running fine. (Both were heart stopping moments for me!) For portables we need machines that can take a beating and keep on running as well as having a lot longer battery life. Extra processing power is nice, but getting moot.
Another nice thing would be a touch screen so the PowerBook/iBook could also be a tablet machine. Bonus points.
What ever Apple does I hope they address power consumption and give us machines that last unplugged a lot longer. CPU's with variable speed and multiple cores is one good way to do this.
-Walter
in the frozen north
you won't need 64-bit until...
There's really only one defining advantage to going to 64-bit - you can run individual applications that use more than 4 GiB of RAM.
So, until your laptop has more than 4 GiB of RAM, 64-bit is about as useful as mammary glands on a boar.
(And note that you don't need 64-bits to have more than 4 GiB of RAM on a system - Intel 32-bit supports up to 64 GiB of RAM on a purely 32-bit system. Even the G4 supports up to 64 GiB of RAM, although Apple never built a system that used the capability.)
toaster_oven said:
There's really only one defining advantage to going to 64-bit - you can run individual applications that use more than 4 GiB of RAM.
So, until your laptop has more than 4 GiB of RAM, 64-bit is about as useful as mammary glands on a boar.
(And note that you don't need 64-bits to have more than 4 GiB of RAM on a system - Intel 32-bit supports up to 64 GiB of RAM on a purely 32-bit system. Even the G4 supports up to 64 GiB of RAM, although Apple never built a system that used the capability.)
sjpetry said:
It is interesting how some people become so fixated on the latest greatest fastest brightest marble. The G3's, even at a lowly 266MHz on an original iBook and 500MHz Pismo, run 10.3 just fine. 10.3 is better than 10.2 which was better than 10.1 which was better than 10.0. Gettin' better all the time, now... Apple programmers are fine tuning the code more and more. Sure there are some things like the fancy cube with fast user switching that I don't see, but I really don't need that. Panther, Safari, Mail, Excel (gasp), Photoshop, Illustrator, programming environments, etc all run just fine. Sure, they'll run even faster on a faster machine, but a G3 is probably going to run 10.4 quite nicely.
Is this suddenly more credible?
Why is this suddenly on the front page now? This rumor was on page 2 yesterday!
Why is this suddenly on the front page now? This rumor was on page 2 yesterday!
TheMasin9 said:
Probably even further than back than that. You only need so much VRAM for display manipulation and fancy stuff like the rotating cube can simply be skipped for machines that don't have the capability. It is just eye candy which isn't necessary. Apple would much rather keep selling upgrades than orphan a huge number of still running Macs. Remember, old Mac's don't die, they just get passed on - people who get them are potential customers for OS upgrades, .Mac, etc. It is the best kind of recycling - reuse.
aswitcher said:
Hmm... maybe "most everyone" in the city but out here in the sticks very few people have cell phones. There's no point, or need.
I agree, a phone/camera/MP3/Palm sounds like a great idea. However, there will still be a huge market for the Shuffle, especially something so small. For example, my son's both like to listen to audio books while doing chores - they don't have phones, don't have reception, money or need. But a low cost iPod would be great for that. There are a lot of kids who can afford a $99 iPod Shuffle that don't need a phone or the attendant monthly bill.
Porshuh944turbo said:
OF COURSE!!! THIS WAS OBVIOUSLY A TYPO THAT THEY MADE THREE DIFFERENT TIMES!!!
AND WRITING "ibook/ibookG5" IS A REALLY COMMON TYPO! WHEN I'M TRYING TO WRITE "G4" MY HANDS SLIP AND HIT "/ibookG5" ALL THE TIME!
Kagetenshi said:I should go around and make everyone waiting for the Rev. B give me and everyone else like me $10 for being their personal beta testers
Suck it up and join the early adopters! Hardware failures build character!
~J, Calvin's Dad for the Digital Age
hah tell me about it... Rev A MDD ... that thing was so loud.... it even blew a power supply....
loved it to death though....
Maybe an Emac first
Do you guys think they might come out with an eMac first. I mean not that I really care about the model but it could always use a lil update. If it were up to me I would leave that model a G4 for as long as the mac mini stays a G4.
Do you guys think they might come out with an eMac first. I mean not that I really care about the model but it could always use a lil update. If it were up to me I would leave that model a G4 for as long as the mac mini stays a G4.