Dilemma (Galaxy Nexus vs. iPhone 4S)

[nfl46]

Why? First your not a developer so how do you begin to make a statement like that? Second, there are more Android phones out there overall so why wouldnt you not make the Apps for Android....especially if you are charging for them?

What you said doesnt make sense to me. Also you can get a refund for Apps on Android. It used to be 24 hours but they shortened it to only 15 minutes.....which to me isnt really enough time to really test an App out but at least you can get a refund. You cant on the iPhone.

The reason I wouldn't develop for Android first is because of the fragmentation. It too many screen sizes and operating systems to deal with. Its one big mess.

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Do not hang much hope on it. Apple current maps is crap and it is 100% apples fault. Apple is the one who fails to updated it. All Google provides is the map data itself and Apple does the rest.

As for iMessage vs BBM. Sorry BBM is a better messaging program.

Don't doubt Apple. Their maps system will probably be awesome.

BBM is only better now. iMessage hasn't been updated since it was release. Last time I check, there hasn't been one big upgrade for iOS 5 yet. So, iMessage can and will be improve upon.

 

[psykick5]

So I think I'm going to get a Nexus.

Reasons:

• EDGE sucks.
• XDA-Developers will hack the hell out of it
• I'll still have an iPod Touch
• Big screen size = awesome
• It's not on EDGE
• Did I mention it can use HSPA+ and not EDGE?

Thanks guys.

 

[nfl46]

You said "most big apps come to iOS first" which is false since "most big apps" are on both platforms. You can say "most apps" come to iOS first, which - since you don't have a source for that claim - is simply speculation.

Okay. Who got Angry Birds, Words With Friends, Netflix...just to name a few, first?

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So I think I'm going to get a Nexus.

Reasons:

• EDGE sucks.
• XDA-Developers will hack the hell out of it
• I'll still have an iPod Touch
• Big screen size = awesome
• It's not on EDGE
• Did I mention it can use HSPA+ and not EDGE?

Thanks guys.

Congrats! Hopefully you love it! I envy that screen! It looks awesome!

 

[b24pgg]

Okay. Who got Angry Birds, Words With Friends, Netflix...just to name a few, first?

These apps are all relatively old, and it made sense that they were released first at the time because iOS had a 1-2 year head start on Android. I acknowledged this earlier, and indicated that since apps like Angry Birds, Words with Friends, and Netflix are on both platforms now, the argument over which platform had them first is moot.

Currently, most new apps significant enough to be cross-platform are released for both platforms simultaneously.

 

[Vegastouch]

The reason I wouldn't develop for Android first is because of the fragmentation. It too many screen sizes and operating systems to deal with. Its one big mess.

So again, your not a developer so how would you know if it is a mess? The develpers dont seem to have a problem with these different screen sizes. Just seems to be an excuse posters here like to use. Obviously it isnt near the big deal you want to think it is.

 

[Vegastouch]

http://www.google.com/nexus/

 

[bigbadneil]

Is why i switched to Android and i am glad i did. If i thought there was anyway i needed two phones, id get an iPhone at some point again..... maybe, but i dont need two phones and Android does everything and then some that iPhone didnt but the deal breaker for me was as stated, .....only being on EDGE.

My dilema is GS2 or Galaxy Nexus. ICS is a huge want and who knows when the GS2 will get it,...... but no micro slot and only a 5MP camera on GN makes it a toughy for me.

I thought the Nexus Galaxy wasnt due out until Feb 2012???

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It boils down to whether or not you like Android or iOS. Me, I despise Android. It's butt ****ing ugly, slow, poorly laid out and generally a ****ing pain in the ass to use. Plus, the apps are far more superior on the iOS than they are anywhere else.

If you can get by with using wifi and not Edge... but yeah, Edge sucks donkey balls very much badly. Edge is about as useful as teeth on a chicken.

I take it you have a SGS2 then

 

[Stealthipad]

Alright guys so I'm just looking for some opinions on this. First of all, I'm on T-Mobile and will be buying one of these phones off-contract and unlocked. Now I know since this is an Apple-products forum you guys might have some biases but let's set those aside for a bit.

Now I'm going to assume you guys are well-read about the 4S. You might not be so with the Galaxy Nexus, http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/18/samsungs-galaxy-nexus-gets-official-android-4-0-4-65-inch-hd/ , there's a link so you can share a more educated opinion.

Now I used to own an HD2 running Android (it broke), and I also own an iPod Touch (4th), so I am familiar and educated on both OSes.

I've drafted some pros and cons for both devices and will put them in lists.

Pros of iPH4S

• Superior battery life
• iOS app selection is far greater both in quantity and quality
• Better camera (not sure yet, more details about the Nexus' camera need to emerge)
• Apple quality

Pros of the Galaxy Nexus

• 4.5" HD display
• Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0)
• 3G data speeds on T-Mobile
• Thinner

At this point the only thing holding me back from getting the iPhone is the fact that I will only have EDGE data speed on T-Mobile... this is concerning if I need to get stuff done away from Wi-Fi.

I just want opinions, so feel free to share yours.

Thanks.

I tried the Samsung Galaxy S Skyrocket for two days, it has the same size screen and is WAY TOO BIG. 4.5" looks good but living with it day in and day out . . . .

 

[Sensamic]

I was thinking of buying the nexus too but finally I decided to stay with my iPhone 4 jailbroken. Ive added cool stuff like new widgets to notification bar and 4 different ways to access the multitasking bar and a one tap solution to end all open apps. Now its waaaaay more easy to multitask.

For maps I use TomTom, which is great. Google Navigation requires you to be on 3G. iPhone GPS apps like Navigon or TomTom don't require 3G because they have maps downloaded. Its way better. I could never use Google Navigation or Apple Maps if they require 3G because 3G is NOT available on every area where I live. Its just pointless then. TomTom or Navigon is the way to go. Yes, they are not cheap, but thats not that big of a impediment.

Elsewhere, Android sucks at games. No Sonic, Assassins Creed (the android version is 2D, sucks), Monkey Island, Rayman, Super Monkey Ball, Dead Space, Modern Combat 3 (this game is just impressive), Street Fighter, etc. The BIG games are on iOS. Why? Because it requires developers to develop these games for just one or two devices: iPhone 4 and 4S (and maybe 3GS).

Also, copying my music from iTunes to Android seems difficult. Before I didn't like iTunes, but now... man, its the best program in the world. One program to store all your apps for iPhone, iPod and iPad, your backups with just one click, seamless syncing, books, tv shows, movies, music, podcasts, updates, etc.

Ive had many phones before the iPhone: Nokia, Samsung, etc. I hated having to flash new ROMS to the Samsung to get updates. I know how to do all that stuff but as I grew older I just don't want to keep doing that stuff. I want something easy to use, since Im not gonna spend many hours of my free time searching the web for ROMS and ways to install them. Not anymore, it was exhausting.

I wish iOS had some stuff from Android, of course. I like Android, just not enough to change OS. Thanks to Android we now have a cool notification system

I will stay with iOS for a while and wait for Apple to bring new stuff on iOS 6 and 7 and later.

I even wanted a bigger screen than iPhones 3.5, but after watching some videos from the Nexus and other Android phones I just understood that they are indeed very big phones. For big screen I already have my iPad. I think a 4 screen would be good, but the 4.65 of the nexus makes the phone too big for my taste. But I do like A LOT the buttons on the screen. I wish Apple did this.

At the end of the day, I prefer an easy way to backup and sync (iTunes) than bigger screens and other stuff from Android. Im sure next year or in the following iPhone will get bigger screen and other necessary stuff.

 

[Meever]

I was under the impression that the gNexus had a inferior screen.

If you're getting Android though, for sure, get a Nexus phone. Not being able to get major updates for months on end would be terrible.... or worse, not getting them at all.

 

[Vegastouch]

I was thinking of buying the nexus too but finally I decided to stay with my iPhone 4 jailbroken. Ive added cool stuff like new widgets to notification bar and 4 different ways to access the multitasking bar and a one tap solution to end all open apps. Now its waaaaay more easy to multitask.

For maps I use TomTom, which is great. Google Navigation requires you to be on 3G. iPhone GPS apps like Navigon or TomTom don't require 3G because they have maps downloaded. Its way better. I could never use Google Navigation or Apple Maps if they require 3G because 3G is NOT available on every area where I live. Its just pointless then. TomTom or Navigon is the way to go. Yes, they are not cheap, but thats not that big of a impediment.

Elsewhere, Android sucks at games. No Sonic, Assassins Creed (the android version is 2D, sucks), Monkey Island, Rayman, Super Monkey Ball, Dead Space, Modern Combat 3 (this game is just impressive), Street Fighter, etc. The BIG games are on iOS. Why? Because it requires developers to develop these games for just one or two devices: iPhone 4 and 4S (and maybe 3GS).

Also, copying my music from iTunes to Android seems difficult. Before I didn't like iTunes, but now... man, its the best program in the world. One program to store all your apps for iPhone, iPod and iPad, your backups with just one click, seamless syncing, books, tv shows, movies, music, podcasts, updates, etc.

Ive had many phones before the iPhone: Nokia, Samsung, etc. I hated having to flash new ROMS to the Samsung to get updates. I know how to do all that stuff but as I grew older I just don't want to keep doing that stuff. I want something easy to use, since Im not gonna spend many hours of my free time searching the web for ROMS and ways to install them. Not anymore, it was exhausting.

I wish iOS had some stuff from Android, of course. I like Android, just not enough to change OS. Thanks to Android we now have a cool notification system

I will stay with iOS for a while and wait for Apple to bring new stuff on iOS 6 and 7 and later.

I even wanted a bigger screen than iPhones 3.5, but after watching some videos from the Nexus and other Android phones I just understood that they are indeed very big phones. For big screen I already have my iPad. I think a 4 screen would be good, but the 4.65 of the nexus makes the phone too big for my taste. But I do like A LOT the buttons on the screen. I wish Apple did this.

At the end of the day, I prefer an easy way to backup and sync (iTunes) than bigger screens and other stuff from Android. Im sure next year or in the following iPhone will get bigger screen and other necessary stuff.

No it doesnt...at least not on Android it doesnt.

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I thought the Nexus Galaxy wasnt due out until Feb 2012???

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November 20th i believe and that is for Verizon. Im not going to Verizon to get it, ill wait for it to come to other carriers and it will. Im not going to get a new phone til next year anyways.

 

[treyjustice]

If you are staying on tmobile I'd get the nexus gotta have 3G

 

[psykick5]

I tried the Samsung Galaxy S Skyrocket for two days, it has the same size screen and is WAY TOO BIG. 4.5" looks good but living with it day in and day out . . . .

I had a 4.3" screen for a year and a half... I loved it. My big paws need a big screen to type well on.

 

[Vizin]

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[sentinelsx]

There are many high quality apps that are still not on android, and most android apps come a few weeks after they are released for iOS, and are ports.

Means in the devs mind iOS is still priority to develop, unless of course you are the type who re-writes system files and applies themes to their device...

Also, despite many modern specced phones, there is still app fragmentation. For example, many good android ports from iOS are for either Xperia play or tegra optimized. Sure you could hack your phone and try playing it, but why? Plus there is no guarantee it will work fine on the phone.

Why is there exclusives? If i have a Dell PC or a sony vaio or a toshiba/acer/asus machine, i can still install and run any software that is supported by windows (specs permitting of course, which every manufacturer provides and is the only limiting and natural factor). I cannot do that on android. Why?

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No it doesnt...at least not on Android it doesnt.

Does google navigation have offline maps?

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Don't doubt Apple. Their maps system will probably be awesome.

BBM is only better now. iMessage hasn't been updated since it was release. Last time I check, there hasn't been one big upgrade for iOS 5 yet. So, iMessage can and will be improve upon.

I have heard the map program will get an update now for lets see iOS3, iOS4, iOS5, Noticed a paternt there. The BEST and I mean the BEST you can hope for is a some update in iOS 6 and somehow it will be limited ONLY to the iPhone 5 but do not hold your breath on it as Apple lags pretty far behind both Android and WP7 in the map department.

As for iMessage I would not count on some real improvements there. It has a ways to go to pass up BBM and best case it is 1 year away right now. Group chatting would be a nice feature and groups. Both of which I do not see Apple adding.

Does google navigation have offline maps?

why yes they do.
Turn on the Google labs part of catching maps. From there you can download like 10 by 10 mile sections of Google maps to your phone. That generally will cover you as you can plan for those areas and download them to your phone ahead of time.

 

[sentinelsx]

I have heard the map program will get an update now for lets see iOS3, iOS4, iOS5, Noticed a paternt there. The BEST and I mean the BEST you can hope for is a some update in iOS 6 and somehow it will be limited ONLY to the iPhone 5 but do not hold your breath on it as Apple lags pretty far behind both Android and WP7 in the map department.

As for iMessage I would not count on some real improvements there. It has a ways to go to pass up BBM and best case it is 1 year away right now. Group chatting would be a nice feature and groups. Both of which I do not see Apple adding.



why yes they do.
Turn on the Google labs part of catching maps. From there you can download like 10 by 10 mile sections of Google maps to your phone. That generally will cover you as you can plan for those areas and download them to your phone ahead of time.

Hmm that sounds more like hassle to me. I am used to just downloading once and using the offline navigation since my nokia days (garmin on E71 was the bomb ). Using tomtom on iPhone 4 was nice too since the entire NA maps were pre-loaded for use anytime. No advance planning or downloading necessary. Just launch and go.

 

[bigbadneil]

When is the Nexus going to be on sale??? and where UK, US Asia???

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Hmm that sounds more like hassle to me. I am used to just downloading once and using the offline navigation since my nokia days (garmin on E71 was the bomb ). Using tomtom on iPhone 4 was nice too since the entire NA maps were pre-loaded for use anytime. No advance planning or downloading necessary. Just launch and go.

Yes but that app cost a pretty penny. Not disagreeing with you that it is a slight pain to do do but then again I have unlimited data.

 

[miggitymac]

No, I don't have a source. I'm sure there is one, but I don't feel like finding it. But if I am a developer, I would developer for iOS first, and NOT Android. Most big apps come to iOS first.

And if Apple wanted Google Navigation they would get it, but its been said that Apple is working on their own maps application that we may see in iOS 6

HAHA! So you don't have a source and you're not a developer. So what you're saying is that you have no clue what you're talking about but you think you might be able to convince people that you do.

Oh really? But who cares? Apple doesn't want Google Navigation. Apple maps will probably be better anyway. Hopefully we see it in iOS 6 next year. Apple already has iMessage to compete with BBM and next year it will have its maps to complete with Google Navigation.

The reason I wouldn't develop for Android first is because of the fragmentation. It too many screen sizes and operating systems to deal with. Its one big mess.

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Don't doubt Apple. Their maps system will probably be awesome.

BBM is only better now. iMessage hasn't been updated since it was release. Last time I check, there hasn't been one big upgrade for iOS 5 yet. So, iMessage can and will be improve upon.

Typical fanboy responses. You're wrong about something, but it doesn't matter because Apple doesn't even want it! And what they'll do is make something even better...probably...SO THERE!

Haha...I used to respond to arguments like that too...in grade 4.

You acknowledge that you're not a developer, so you really have no idea what you're talking about. Stop pretending you do.

 

[miggitymac]

When is the Nexus going to be on sale??? and where UK, US Asia???

The only official release date made by Samsung is November 17 for the UK. No one knows for Asia and North America yet.

 

[Mr D]

lol Edge... that should be your answer.