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Disabling the iPhone 5S's fingerprint reader - any suggestions?
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I honestly think you are just overthinking it. Again unless Apple is blatantly lying to us, they have explained that no image of your fingerprint is taken/stored.
So not only one someone have to hack into the data on your phone but then they would have to find the same algorithm that is used to analyze the data of the fingerprint.
If it was storing my actual fingerprint I might be slightly more concerned but someone would have to go through a lot of work to decipher whatever print data is stored and we don't even know if it is storing something that would equate to a complete print.
That's not a solution in so far as you have no idea if it's actually disabled or not. As I stated above - I don't believe Apple is up to anything sinister here - I just don't believe they can make this watertight. I think it can't be entirely ruled out that security vulnerabilities could lead to 3rd party apps directly accessing the sensor and getting the image of the print from there. The hash stored in the chip is probably safe - but that's not the main issue.
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Including myself, in my first post - which, apparently, nobody read before they started bashing.
Have you asked multiple accessory manufacturers, if so what did they say? In the first page someone already posted that a case with a rubber button cover doesn't work with 5S. Seems that should have really spurred you on to asking a bunch accessory manufacturers what their thoughts are.
And there were several things suggested. But instead of closing the thread we're writing the same things 50 more times as well.
You also alleged that the scanner reads your print even if you don't set it up. People repeatedly asked you to cite your proof. So where is your proof that the simplest solution, not turning the feature on, doesn't work?
I don't have proof - just like you don't have proof that it does. The difference between the two of us is that I'm not willing to take chances when it comes to biometrics and you are.
What do you think is more practical: starting a thread where most manufacturers probably read it or writing to 50 companies?
Someone on the very first page suggested using a case that has a rubber button cover on it. They even said the manufacturer doesn't certify it to work with the 5S. Right at the beginning that was suggested.
The big differences are:
1) Nobody ever claimed that a laptop cam couldn’t be activated remotely. From day one it was understood that it could be.
2) There is a clear potential for exploitation of a laptop camera (or a front facing phone camera). We don’t have to use our imagination to imagine how it could be used against the owner and it something that can actually be demonstrated. However, I’m yet to hear a plausible theory as to what the NSA plans to do or even could do with our fingerprints (assuming they can even get them from our 5s which is a big assumption). As it turns out, the government already has my fingerprints, and I’m not even slightly concerned about it. Sure, if I leave my prints at a crime scene it might become an issue, but I don’t plan on doing that and I can’t think of anything else they’re good for.
I suggested that. If it works, that's great - I had just hoped someone actually familiar with the technology behind it could tell me if it does. Citing Apple's simplified explanation of things over and over again really doesn't help.
neither am I - as I already stated earlier. This isn't about the government - this is about the people who also steal your credit cards or blackmail you with said camera pictures (just went through the press here a week ago). What would you say if someone contacted you and asked for cash in exchange for the assurance that your prints won't show up on a future crime scene?
You have no proof I am willing to take a chance with it as I have not purchased a 5S, nor have I said I will.
The difference between us is that if I were concerned that the reader would still scan my print, I would wait until security experts can test the device instead of asking a bunch of people on a gadget forum, almost all of whom are not security experts.
How much practical information have you received from this thread and how much practical information would contacting a couple of companies get you? You don't have to write 50 companies. If two companies say that their cases that cover the home button with rubber say those cases block the reader, it is logical to assume that any case with a similar rubber covering will block the reader.
You're claiming the technology is safe, I'm claiming it might not be - neither of us has definite proof of that (yet). I fail to see in how far I'm unreasonable while you're not.
yeah, I don't think so. Send that one to google translate. http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/news/story/12412390
While you might not play along, I'm pretty sure situations like that are pretty nasty.
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Is that a portrait of yourself?