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I don't think Apple is purposefully endangering the safety of our data but I also don't think that a thing like data safety in networked devices actually exists. I've yet to come along an online system that is actually impenetrable.

Which is why the info is not stored in a networked online system.
 
Well, as far as I know I'm not a criminal. I simply don't believe Apple is capable of keeping my biometric data safe from actual criminals.

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I don't think Apple is purposefully endangering the safety of our data but I also don't think that a thing like data safety in networked devices actually exists. I've yet to come along an online system that is actually impenetrable.

9 out of 10 criminals say they aren't criminals. Just saying. And the 1 out of 10 are usually the criminally insane anyway, so it's not a good group to be in...

And Apple most DEFINITELY is endangering the safety of our data just by making the claim that it is "secure". If there's one thing hackers love more than WoW, it's a challenge.
 
And Apple most DEFINITELY is endangering the safety of our data just by making the claim that it is "secure". If there's one thing hackers love more than WoW, it's a challenge.

Someone buy this man a drink...Good lord are there alotta people here who have drank the kool aid.
 
Which is why the info is not stored in a networked online system.

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Its your right to buy or not, but your fingerprint is not automatically scanned. There is no reason to disable the scanner because if you don't turn it on it doesn't record anything. Just keep using a numerical passcode if that's what you want.

Its not your biometric information, it just how Apple maps it. You can't use the iPhone's scan with any other biometric reader.
 
Stop worrying
or
Don't buy it
or
buy a sticker
or
buy a file

Solved!!:cool:

But then I wouldn't have the latest iDevice.

How would I survive the day???

(Seriously. I want to know. I honestly think I would die.)
 
When the iPhone was introduced it wasn't clear to me.

Sorry, I didn't read the whole thread so I don't know if it's been mentioned, but if you really are that paranoid you can always use a stylus.

Now this makes more sense. ;)

-drsoong
 
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This whole fingerprint paranoia is quite funny actually. There are many many people (like myself) get their fingerprints taken quite regularly for all sorts of reasons. Also there is no such thing as online privacy and there hasn't been since the birth of the Internet.
 
Do not worry,

We are from the government and we are here to help you!:eek:

This was a fairly random statement. I can't see how this sarcastic comment even makes a point relevant to this discussion. What does whether or not the government wants to help us have to do with the finger print scanner? Even if the scanner isn't as secure as Apple claims, just how is it going to give the government access to anything they don't already have access to?
 

A photoshopped picture of Reagan...well that proves it, clearly Apple is sending our fingerprints to the government. This reminds me of the underware gnome episode of South Park.

Step 1: collect fingerprints

Step 3: destroy all dissent and rule with an iron first.


Could someone tell me what Step 2 is? What the heck is the NSA going to do with our fingerprints that would jeapordize our safety/freedom/happiness?
 
What I'm worried about is that some lowlives get ahold of them and sell them like stolen credit cards on the internet. There are all kinds of "funny" applications for stolen prints.

What sort of applications are those? Anyway, if someone stole your phone, it would be far easier for them to just lift your fingerprints off the outside of the phone than hack into it and pull it out of the chip. So I'd say if you are worried about your fingerprints being stolen wear gloves at all times, or try burning your fingers to get rid of your fingerprints to begin with.
 

OP... You claim to work in IT and this is what you're worried about? Are you on a computer? Do you have a bank account? Did you walk outside today?

If you answered 'yes' to any of those questions, your "personal security" has been compromised. What about the camera on the front of your phone "looking" at you all day? What about your voice footprint being recorded everytime you talk into your phone? What about satellites identifying you as you walk down the street by your "gate".

The point is, you obviously DO NOT understand this technology, because the potential risk is practically non-existent in comparison to actual threats to our security.
 
What sort of applications are those? Anyway, if someone stole your phone, it would be far easier for them to just lift your fingerprints off the outside of the phone than hack into it and pull it out of the chip.

I think I've already answered that further up
 
We might like it or not, but but biometric is here to stay. Samsung will quite likely avoid the fingerprint scan in their groundbreaking 64 bit new phones, but will probably add an iris scanner. Another one will use your voice etc, and to be quite honest, I think there is very little you can do to avoid being tracked.
But I think that touch ID is as safe for the user as possible.
 
If you answered 'yes' to any of those questions, your "personal security" has been compromised.

I don't consider what I produce on a computer to be particularly personal. Anyone could have produced that. Passwords can be changed as can database entries. What people apparently aren't capable of keeping apart are "what you do" on the one side and "what you are" on the other. The former can be altered, the latter can't. Once your fingerprint is out in the wild, any future service that uses it as a means of authentication is already compromised before you've used it even once. That's why I think it's prudent to think twice before you frivolously use it on a toy - that's all.

And as I wrote in the first post: if you don't mind using the fingerprint reader, skip the thread. But I guess it's in human nature to bash those who have a different opinion. All I was asking was whether there are ways to make entirely sure the reader is disabled (beyond Apple's word that it is).
 
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