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Discussion in 'macOS Mojave (10.14)' started by bige12, Jul 6, 2018.
It kind of sucks that the the new MacOS Mojave will not work on a mid 2011 MacBook Air
Really? I think Apple have done good to support Mac’s as far back as 2011 before Mojave, I have a 2011 MacBook Pro I don’t expect Apple to support it forever. I’m planning on upgrading my laptop later this year anyway.
I got it to work on mine, thanks to @dosdude1's mojave patcher app.
See this first or original post on the unsupported thread.
Are you using a external hard drive?
I actually am using my internal drive partitioned (actually new volume) on the same drive
1st volume ~ High Sierra GM
2nd volume ~ Mojave Public Beta 1
I did experiment on using an external drive (SSD and USB) for the Mojave boot. It worked but performance was less to be desired. So I ended up using my internal drive with 2 partitions (volumes in my case).
I suggest you do the external one to try.
How do you the Mojave Patch? on my says it will not open.
I always use a external hard drive to test new MacOS, so I do not mess up is on the internal drive
You have to do the patch process on a supported Mac, and follow instructions from @dosdude1. Just substitute High Sierra with Mojave on the documentation.
How's the performance compared with your previous OS in the Mid 2011 MBA?. I had the hope that -as it has happened with iOS 12 in older devices- we could get some more performance out of our aging laptops.
You've had six years of free upgrades. Be happy with that. Or buy a new Mac.
Why should he be happy with only 6 years of upgrades? Just cause you like to throw your money at Apple buying new devices doesn't mean everyone else does and also doesn't mean that it is right that he has to.
When you are buying a new Mac, they should come with a disclaimer saying: "This device will be forced into obsolescence in 6 years after Apple decides to purposefully block it from being compatible with MacOS updates which will also bar you from using new apps which require the latest MacOS version to run."
Apple is shady in the way they stop supporting their own devices as quickly as they do. It's also wasteful, turning perfectly adequate hardware into junk much sooner than it should be. In today's "environmentally conscientious" society, it is surprising that Apple gets away with such a wasteful business model.
Lost support for my late 2010 MacBook Air this year. 8 years of OS support is industry leading when considering the delivered performance.
Apple is charging more and more money for their products, they themselves market their products as the best, on the market, a full premium experience. I don't think its uncalled for to expect a premium product that Apple charges an arm and a leg to get more then 6 years of OS upgrades.
Upgrading your operating system to latest version is neither necessary, nor a given human right.
Let’s get this straight right away, there is no such thing as free.
The statement was about disappointment. Your reply was a little dismissive.
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Industry leading when considering what????
Needs more explanation. So it’s great but with caveats?
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Many of the "unsupported" Macs can be made to run Mojave using DosDude's patcher, and some of them even run Mojave quite well. My quad core Mac Pro 3,1 (Early 2008), upgraded with an SSD, 32 GB of RAM, and an Nvidia GTX 670 runs it very well. Granted, I think it is probably near the end of even unsupported Mac OS updates. The next version of the OS probably won't work on it. But I can milk 2 or 3 more years out of it probably as long as I don't care about the latest and greatest features. I won't put any more money into hardware upgrades and ride it out. I know that at that point, I will probably need to upgrade. I will start saving up now and I should be able to get something pretty decent by then.
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My brother has a mid 2011 iMac, which won't run Mojave well even with the patcher due to graphics compatibility issues with the Radeon HD 6000 series graphics chip it uses which cannot be upgraded. He would have no graphics acceleration and the results would be horrendous. I recommended the same thing that I am doing to him, ride it out for a bit, but a shorter time frame. I recommended a year on his current Mac running High Sierra until the next Mac OS is released. (They've been on a year cycle, new releases typically in September) There should be some newer models out by then and he can take his pick on what suits him. He could probably afford the new Mac Pro if it actually comes out later this year as Apple has claimed it will. I suspect it will have all of the firepower he could need or want.
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Mojave sucks. Wish I didn't "up"grade. If you value being permitted to remove bloatware form your computer, enjoy that in your not-Mojave OS. Because in Mojave I can't delete GarageBand, Stocks, News and I presume other *****. They're "protected". Apparently they're the magic smoke that keeps my $3000 MBP working.
haha... what? news is 9 megs, stocks is 1.4 megs. and garageband can be uninstalled... i don't have it on either of my macs. this is why 'mojave sucks'?
If you're okay with someone forcing code onto your machine "as long as it's small", you are simply not computer literate. That's fine, but don't pester people who expect a decently-written OS.
that's even funnier; some things (like chess) have been there forever. and again, garageband can be deleted. so.. a few tiny apps? if you don't need them, don't open them. i mean, how much time do you spend perusing the Applications folder?
really, there are lots of files (foreign languages, for example, or printer files, modem scripts) littering your mac, yet... none of them interfere with your day-to-day usage.
finally, most of these things have been there for years; mojave adding news, or stocks, should not be a problem, for anyone.
Do you think I simply guessed that MAYBE I couldn't delete it, so why not just post that info somewhere? Maybe you could walk me through the process of deleting a file. I'm unfamiliar. I thought maybe entering the rm -rf command as superuser would do it, but apparently I need to log in as you. Could you give me your password?
seriously. what? you said 'mojave sucks', then gave us your 'reason' why. all i know is... the OS is stable, fast. and i can get my work done; i would think that that is what matters most. and the 'stocks' app is not hurting me in the least.
meanwhile, here's my password: *********
Go to System Preferences, Security, and allow it there. You can do that on your unsupported MBA, if you then download Mojave via the Patcher, using Tools.
I run it on an 2011 MBA 4.2 with great success since it came out, directly on the internal disk.
Make a backup via time Machine before!!!!