macOS 10.14 Mojave on Unsupported Macs Thread

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    dosdude1 macrumors 68000

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    In this thread, advancements in running macOS 10.14 Mojave on unsupported systems will be discussed.
    Current Hardware Support Status:
    • Machine Support
      • Early-2008 or newer Mac Pro, iMac, or MacBook Pro:
        • MacPro3,1
        • MacPro4,1
        • iMac8,1
        • iMac9,1
        • iMac10,x
        • iMac11,x (systems with AMD Radeon HD 5xxx and 6xxx series GPUs will be almost unusable when running Mojave. More details are located in the Current Issues section below.)
        • iMac12,x (systems with AMD Radeon HD 5xxx and 6xxx series GPUs will be almost unusable when running Mojave. More details are located in the Current Issues section below.)
        • MacBookPro4,1
        • MacBookPro5,x
        • MacBookPro6,x
        • MacBookPro7,1
        • MacBookPro8,x
      • Late-2008 or newer MacBook Air or Aluminum Unibody MacBook:
        • MacBookAir2,1
        • MacBookAir3,x
        • MacBookAir4,x
        • MacBook5,1
      • Early-2009 or newer Mac Mini or white MacBook:
        • Macmini3,1
        • Macmini4,1
        • Macmini5,x
        • MacBook5,2
        • MacBook6,1
        • MacBook7,1
      • Early-2008 or newer Xserve:
        • Xserve2,1
        • Xserve3,1
    • Video Card Support
      • Pre-Metal AMD video cards (Radeon HD 6xxx series and older)
      • Pre-Metal Nvidia video cards (GeForce 5xx series and older)
      • Pre-Metal Intel video cards (Intel HD Graphics 3000 and Intel HD Graphics Arrandale)
    Current Issues
    • Graphics anomalies: Currently, pre-metal video cards used in Mojave will produce a weird darkish grey Menu Bar and Finder sidebar when using the light theme. In the dark theme, these anomalies are not present, while other, less obvious anomalies are present (window corners may not render properly, bottom part of dock menus may have artifacts). A workaround for graphics anomalies in light mode is to enable Reduce Transparency in System Preferences > Accessibility > Display (this might create additional side effects beside the obvious loss of transpareny as some systems with pre-metal AMD graphics render the dock in dark gray).
    • AMD Radeon HD 5xxx/6xxx series GPU acceleration: Currently, it is not possible to get full graphics acceleration when running Mojave on a system with a Radeon HD 5xxx or 6xxx series GPU. Mojave will be almost UNUSABLE without graphics acceleration. This includes the 15" and 17" MacBook Pro systems (MacBookPro8,2 and 8,3). If you want to enable GPU acceleration on these machines, you'll need to disable the AMD GPU (This will work on MacBook Pro 8,2 and 8,3 systems ONLY. You CANNOT disable the AMD GPU in an iMac.) Weird colors will also be produced when running Mojave with one of these video cards installed/enabled. To disable the AMD GPU on a 2011 MacBook Pro 8,2 or 8,3, follow the guide found here.
    • Early-2008 Mac Pro (MacPro3,1) GPU support: When running Mojave, you CANNOT use a newer AMD video card EVEN IF it is a Metal-comptible card and is supported in Mojave. The newer AMD drivers used in Mojave require the SSE4.2 instruction set, which the MacPro3,1 does not support. There is no way around this at this time. Your only GPU upgrade options for MacPro3,1 systems are Nvidia cards, which work perfectly fine.
    • Built-in iSight cameras: Currently, built-in iSight cameras do not work correctly on some machines. It seems to be hit or miss, but when installing, expect your iSight camera to be non-functional.
    • Trackpad (MacBook5,2 affected only). Trackpad multi-finger gestures on the MacBook5,2 not supported in Mojave. While the trackpad works and is fully usable, Mojave detects it as just a standard mouse, preventing you from changing some trackpad-oriented settings.
    • Unsupported WiFi modules in some systems. Macs that use the Broadcom BCM4321 WiFi module will not have functional WiFi when running Mojave. A fix for this is to open up your machine and install a compatible WiFi card. Machines affected include some MacPro3,1, MacBook5,2, MacBookPro4,1, iMac8,1, Macmini3,1, and MacBookAir2,1 systems. Please note that not all these machines will have an unsupported card, this is just a list of machines known to have shipped with that card in some configurations.
    • App Store Crashing: Some users have reported crashing upon opening the App Store. This is caused by App Store videos and can be worked around by disabling video autoplay and not viewing App Store videos. This is not a fix, this is a workaround. Safari may also experience crashes with certain kinds of embedded videos.
    Current Issues by Hardware
    • Graphics anomalies:
      • All machines
    • AMD GPU acceleration:
      • All machines with a Radeon HD 5xxx or 6xxx series GPUs (these systems will be almost unusable when running Mojave. More details are located in the Current Issues section above.)
    • AMD GPU support:
      • MacPro3,1
    • Built-in iSight camera:
      • All machines, hit or miss
    • Trackpad:
      • MacBook5,2
    • Unsupported WiFi modules:
      • All machines with Broadcom BCM4321 WiFi modules
    • App Store Crashing:
      • All machines with Radeon HD 4xxx series GPUs
    Installation:
    To install on your machine, you can download and run the macOS Mojave Patcher application, which will let you download a copy of the latest installer app from Apple and create a bootable installer drive for use on unsupported Macs. It contains all the patches necessary to achieve the hardware support listed above. The installation guide an be found here and an installation guide video here.

    APFS ROM Patcher:
    Warning: This tool could irreversibly brick your EFI chip. Please exercise caution with machines that have multiple EEPROM definitions. Relevant information can be found here and here. The APFS ROM patcher is currently unavailable.

    Mojave Builds and Installer Versions (Developer Preview, Public Beta):
    2018/06/04 10.14 DP1, build 18A293u, installer 14.0.08
    2018/06/19 10.14 DP2, build 18A314h, installer 14.0.11
    2018/06/26 10.14 PB1, build 18A314k, installer 14.0.11
    2018/07/03 10.14 DP3, build 18A326g, installer 14.0.12
    2018/07/06 10.14 PB2, build 18A326h, installer 14.0.12
    2018/07/16 10.14 DP4, 2018/07/17 PB3, build 18A336e, installer 14.0.14
    2018/07/30 10.14 DP5, 2018/07/31 PB4, build 18A347e, installer 14.0.15
    2018/08/06 10.14 DP6, 2018/08/06 PB5, build 18A353d, installer 14.0.16
    2018/08/13 10.14 DP7, 2018/08/13 PB6, build 18A365a, installer 14.0.17
    2018/08/20 10.14 DP8, 2018/08/20 PB7, build 18A371a, installer 14.0.18
    2018/08/27 10.14 DP9, 2018/08/27 PB8, build 18A377a, installer 14.0.20
    2018/09/04 10.14 DP10, 2018/09/04 PB9, build 18A384a, installer 14.0.21
    2018/09/12 10.14 DP11, 2018/09/12 PB10, build 18A389, installer 14.0.21
    2018/09/24 10.14 Final, build 18A391, installer 14.0.22
    2018/09/25 10.14.1 DP1, 2018/09/27 PB1, build 18B45d, do not install
    2018/10/02 10.14.1 DP2, build 18B50c, do not install
    2018/10/08 10.14.1 DP3, build 18B57c, do not install
    2018/10/17 10.14.1 DP4, build 18B67a, do not install

    Credits:
    @dosdude1
    - Developed macOS Mojave Patcher.
    @parrotgeek1 - Developed LegacyUSBInjector, SIPManager, and NDRVShim. (Source Code)
    @Czo - Developed SUVMMFaker. (Source Code)
    @Badruzeus - Discovered that Sierra OpenGL drivers work in Mojave.
    @ASentientBot - Fixed Nvidia kernel panic, Core 2 Duo kernel panic, and iSight.
    @jackluke - Narrowed down cause of Core 2 Duo kernel panic.

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  3. MadDane macrumors 6502a

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    Any news yet on which Macs are supported? I have been unable to find information about this.
     
  4. Gamer9430 macrumors 68020

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    Nothing has been posted yet, on Apple Developer or their website...
     
  5. dosdude1 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    As of yet, the systems officially supported in 10.14 are unknown, and the download is not yet available in my Dev portal. I will update the thread as updates are received.
     
  6. FlorisVN macrumors regular

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    “macOS Mojave will be available this fall as a free software update for Macs introduced in mid-2012 or later, plus 2010 and 2012 Mac Pro models with recommended Metal-capable graphics cards.”
    --- Post Merged, Jun 4, 2018 ---
    unfortunately my core i7 late 2011 Macbook Pro is not supported anymore...
     
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    Wonder why they would drop support for the 2011 iMac.
     
  9. FlorisVN macrumors regular

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    too old, and no metal support
     
  10. liketom macrumors 601

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    it up online - downloading iOS 12 and new Mac OS - :)
     
  11. iamMacPerson macrumors 68030

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    Now to find out what Metal cards are supported on the Mac Pros. 4,1 to 5,1 conversions should have no problem installing with a proper card. I'm assuming most AMD RX cards are fine, but what about nVidia?
     
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  13. saudor macrumors 6502a

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    the 2012 are based on kelper so i imagine 600+
     
  14. Insleep macrumors member

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    Looks like only 2012 and later...
     

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  15. EugW macrumors 601

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    I guess I'll be needing your help for my 2010 iMac.

    Not that I really care that much though, since I'm only using it as an external monitor these days, for my 2017 iMac. :D
     
  16. Czo macrumors 6502

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    It's seems to me, that most unsupported macs need an updated GPU. So, iMacs with upgraded GPU and Mac Pro's can be supported unofficially. But all of the available cards with MXM format are can't control the brightness of the iMac screen and can't show the boot screen.
     
  17. saudor macrumors 6502a

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    This will be harder since it seems like the entire OS is metal based.. and emulating that kind of stuff in software makes for a crappy experience
     
  18. TMRJIJ macrumors 68030

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    Seems like the entire OS is on Metal so 2012 or newer officially.
     
  19. FlorisVN macrumors regular

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    indeed, i think tools that dosdude1 created like macOS High Sierra Patcher Tool for Unsupported Macs wil maybay get a hard time on this one..
    Metal hardware is possibly required, but we will see...
     
  20. EugW macrumors 601

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    Yeah, I think I'm happy enough keeping my iMac11,3 & MacBook5,1 & MacBookPro5,5 on 10.13 High Sierra, since the OS supports the new image formats and APFS. And I expect we'll have modern browser support until 2022.
     
  21. redheeler macrumors 603

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    Now it appears my Early 2011 17" MacBook Pro will be in need of a patch to run the latest version of MacOS. To add insult to injury, Apple no longer makes a comparable product worth buying (the 17" MacBook Pro was discontinued in 2012, and Apple has never introduced a 17" with Retina since).
     
  22. TMRJIJ macrumors 68030

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    This might be much harder to crack graphics wise. I spent way too much time trying to get OpenGL support on the older machines during the ML/MacPostFactor/macOS Extractor days and still couldn't get past the WindowServer crashes.
     
  23. FlorisVN macrumors regular

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    I really hope iTunes will get updates for a long time on High Sierra, and of course internet browsers...
     
  24. redheeler macrumors 603

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    The update period is usually three years for Safari + general security updates and four years for iTunes (minus one year as High Sierra was released last fall). Third-party browsers such as Chrome are generally supported for twice as long as Safari.

    So there's still some time to go before High Sierra is no longer viable, but missing out on features like dark mode on older Macs is seriously disappointing nonetheless. Dark mode should have been added years ago in my opinion.
     
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