Discrete Graphics?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by Dwalls90, Oct 22, 2013.

  1. Dwalls90 macrumors 601

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    I need to pay $2,599 for a discrete GPU in a Macbook Pro?

    LOL.

    Bad move.
     
  2. thedarkhorse macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah a little troubling since it's the only mac laptop with discrete graphics.
     
  3. kwokaaron macrumors 6502a

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    I honestly don't think they should be calling it Macbook Pros if only the high-end 15 inch has a discrete graphics card.
     
  4. trfjason macrumors member

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    It's funny how they say they reduced the price of MBP, but you get much less for what you pay for, like loosing the discrete graphics...
     
  5. leman macrumors 604

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    Yeah, I am confused as well. They should have put it as a $150-200 upgrade option or something like that.
     
  6. kwokaaron macrumors 6502a

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    This is gonna sound funny but I don't actually feel that bad about having the low-end 15 inch old generation rmbp now since the new low-end macbook pro 15 inch is purported to only have an extra hour of battery life (which you could probably achieve if you upgrade to mavericks for free), no discrete graphics card for the low-end version, and slower processor speed. Even the 802.11ac, faster flash and thunderbolt 2 doesn't seem to make up for it imo.
     
  7. teerexx52 macrumors 68000

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    I agree
     
  8. Dangerdog3000 macrumors member

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    You're underestimating the faster flash I think. But yeah having to pay $2500 (or w\e it is) for a dedicated gpu on Pro machine is outrageous.
     
  9. isephmusic macrumors 6502

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    how does my classic macbook have a graphics card but the 15 inch retina that cost 1999 doesn't. wtf ? i was thinking about upgrading too
     
  10. Broadus macrumors 6502a

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    I was thinking the same. I've had my refurbished mid-2012 rMBP, 2.3GHz, 256GB SSD, 16GB memory for about three weeks and love it. I realize that the refreshed rMBP should have a better screen with less potential image retention issues, but I don't feel that I'm missing out on much.

    I thought that $1599 was a decent price for what I have, and today's announcement doesn't make me regret having gotten it. I'm glad to have the discrete graphics. I'll upgrade to Mavericks and be happy. BTW, the free Mavericks upgrade was a nice move on Apple's part.
     
  11. REM314 macrumors 6502

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    I was really hoping for an easy decision on a new computer but this is rough. If you consider education pricing and upgrade the base 15'' SSD and RAM you're paying essentially the same as the high end.

    Apple is really trying to force you to spend $2450 (education). Kmon Apple.
     
  12. Hypathia macrumors member

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    Take it with a grain of salt but I think that the 2,3Ghz and 2,6Ghz implicitly give you the 750m as well. Reason: http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=18191789&postcount=14342

    Or does anyone have a better explanation?
     
  13. REM314 macrumors 6502

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    It does seem odd that they have a hyphen where the dGPU would go. Maybe they miscoded? If so i'll be a lot happier.
     
  14. applegeek25 macrumors regular

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    So true. I've had my rMBP for almost a month and for once in a very long time, I don't feel like Apple screwed me with their latest upgrade. $2,299 for discrete graphics, 2.7GHz i7, 16GB RAM, and 256 SSD. Education discount of course.
     
  15. Macloven macrumors regular

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    Upgrading the base model to 512gb hd and 16 gig ram, education pricing $90 less than high-end model, which includes the faster processer and discrete card. So looking at it that way, the high-end model is a decent deal.
     
  16. CoolHotCold macrumors member

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    Nope, sorry, two models for 15" with the one that comes with 16GB of Ram as standard having Iris Pro + 750 while the one that comes with 8 standard only has Iris, regardless of what you upgrade the processor to.
     
  17. chabig macrumors 68040

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    The integrated graphics on the new MBP are more powerful than the discrete chips were on the old machines. As technology advances, it just makes sense to integrate more and more functionality.
     
  18. REM314 macrumors 6502

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    That doesn't make sense though. Thats basically a free dGPU then.
     
  19. MN7119 macrumors regular

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    Need some help here. I am reading this info about no discrete graphics on lower end new MacBooks Pro. I only use my computer for web surfing, emails, iMovie, iPhoto, Skype, etc... Should I care about discrete graphics? I just ordered the new 13" with 16mb so I think I will be good for couple years. Right?
     
  20. REM314 macrumors 6502

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    Yeah you're fine.
     
  21. jmdMac macrumors regular

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    Absolutely. You have no need for a discrete graphics card unless you are gaming or using it for heavy duty graphics applications (which you are not). Save your money and go with your first choice.
     
  22. LincolnsiPod macrumors 6502

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    I'm checking the refurbished, and at least where 15 inches are concerned the 650M graphic is identical in performance to the Iris Pro, but more battery draining I suspect. It comes down to whether I'm willing to go from 15 inch to 13 inch, and being a photo enthusiast who uses Aperture, not convinced if I can be comfortable with 2 inches less screen space.
     
  23. Dwalls90 thread starter macrumors 601

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    Wow this is a really good catch.

    Although, I think in the keynote, they said "if you want the option for 750M", which leads me to believe it doesn't come standard.
     
  24. kwokaaron, Oct 22, 2013
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    kwokaaron macrumors 6502a

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    Iris Pro is very good in terms of performance but I wouldn't go so far as to say that it's better than the 650M. It would seem that if you pumped up the resolution and graphics quality in games, the 650M nearly always has the edge over Iris Pro. A good article to check out: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6993/intel-iris-pro-5200-graphics-review-core-i74950hq-tested
     
  25. isephmusic macrumors 6502

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    how is an iris pro better than a gtx 650m? why is the 15 inch 2499$ model the only one with a graphics card now lol. i don't like the size of my macbook so i am thinking of switching over to the retina models. if the 13 and lower 15inch models both have iris pro now then nothing is really justifying the 15inch anymore besides quad core. now that i have a desktop to do music production i think ill get the 13inch for portability and iPad air for media usage
     

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