Disney May Split Out Star Wars and Marvel Into Standalone Streaming Services [Updated]

[Juicy Box]

Maybe it takes you a minute. Now multiply that by all the times you're claiming you'll cancel and then restart a service. It adds up and it's still work. Enjoy taking on a bunch of extra work in our already busy lives.

As I mentioned on an earlier post, it isn't for everyone, besides, I switch ISPs 1-3 times a year, and cancel and resub Hulu, Stars, Showtime, and HBO once or twice a year, I probably spend less than two hours (a guess as I doubt it doesn't come close to that) maintaining my ATV entertainment and ISPs.

Compared ISP and streaming cost this post, I am saving over $1200 a year with very little effort (at least to me):

So a year ago I had

• Comcast double play for $180 (w/HBO)
• Netflix - $10
Total - $190

Now I have

•Comcast internet for $100
• playstation Vue for $55 (thanks price hike)
• HBO Now for $15
• Netflix for $10
Total - $180

Hooray! Cord cutting saved me $10!

I fully understand YMMV when it comes to savings, and that not everyone has access to multiple ISPs. Even if they do have ISP choices, they may not be able to get the same prices as I posted. I also understand that not everyone has the technical knowledge and skills to manage their entertainments cost like I do.

But, to say it takes too much time save potentially save hundreds of dollars is kind of a stretch. Many people (not saying you do) spend a significant portion of their day checking out the latest gossip on their Facebook account.

 

[0098386]

Hey Disney, if people can't find the stuff they're looking for on the streaming service they currently have, they're not going to switch to yours. They'll pirate it. Easy as that.

That's exactly it. Piracy on PC games dropped when Steam came out to provide services pirates couldn't and made bank. Film and TV studios seem so far behind in that regard - they really do overvalue their films.

 

[EdT]

I say $@#! that and read books. Or rewatch whatever I previously had. Besides, as I get older the less I like of the sludge bring produced (generally speaking). I'm sure my son will grow up to disagree with me but that's life.

I never gave up reading books, but I have gone back to buying physical books and not E books. A physical book I can give to somebody else without being accused of being a criminal. My thoughts on movies and shows is going the same direction.

 

[glowplug]

why stop there? if they break each movie into 15-minute chunks, just think how much subscription revenue they would realize!

 

[melendezest]

And this is how online streaming dies. With thunderous applause. I mean...nickel and diming.

All the more reason for me to buy the discs, and stream locally from my PS3/4 to the TV, with better picture and sound quality.

 

[jdillings]

Fragmentation at its finest.

Huh? It's already fragmented. For example, just look at Marvel. If you want access to all of the Marvel movies, you have to subscribe to Epix, Starz, and Netflix. If Disney is able to launch a standalone service with all the Marvel stuff under one roof, it would be cheaper than subscribing to all the different services that we must do now.

 

[Andres Cantu]

Huh? It's already fragmented. For example, just look at Marvel. If you want access to all of the Marvel movies, you have to subscribe to Epix, Starz, and Netflix. If Disney is able to launch a standalone service with all the Marvel stuff under one roof, it would be cheaper than subscribing to all the different services that we must do now.

That's why I included the "at its finest"

 

[Glassed Silver]

While I loathe cable packages and am more or less a cord cutter, I think we are seeing the true cost of an a la carte service. Everyone wants a la carte, but what no one seems to grasp is that if companies can't charge everyone a little bit for their service, they have to charge the ones that want it significantly more.

A la carte is great on paper. In reality, it is a system that in order to work will end up costing us all a lot more money.

Been saying that for many many years now ever since the "cord cutter hype" started here on MR...

Always wondered why people thought that these companies will make life easier and cheaper at the same time for folks.

Companies aren't helpless cucks you know, if they see an opportunity to suck you dry of your money, they'll do it if they have leverage.

Glassed Silver:mac

 

[neliason]

I say $@#! that and read books. Or rewatch whatever I previously had. Besides, as I get older the less I like of the sludge bring produced (generally speaking). I'm sure my son will grow up to disagree with me but that's life.

The cost of cable TV or streaming isn't my biggest concern. What I have found is there isn't much worth watching at any price. I like most Americans have tended to watch to much of the idiot box.

A few weeks ago we lost power all night. I couldn't use my iPad or watch Netflix. I went to bed early, got a good nights rest and felt great the next.

 

[Westside guy]

...
Now I have

•Comcast internet for $100
• playstation Vue for $55 (thanks price hike)
• HBO Now for $15
• Netflix for $10
Total - $180

Wow, that's terrible. Where is that?

I have Comcast internet plus local channels for $85/month (price just jumped; was $78)... and HBO is included.

 

[Nunyabinez]

Things like this are why I continue to own my music instead of renting it. Maybe it will never happen, but what if a label wanted to do the same thing? Pull their content off Spotify and open their own service.

I have technically pirated stuff when it was made difficult to obtain. For example, when a series that was part of my cable plan was part way through the season and wouldn't make it available on Netflix for a year and only had the last 3 episodes available online.

I think most people will be reasonable about pirating when producers are reasonable about providing content at fair prices with easy access.

I'll tell you what I won't do, is have a separate login or app for every content producer. Disney's content is just like anyone else's content and I want to search for media across providers, not have to remember where show "x" is hosted.

 

[magbarn]

ROFL, something tells me that Disney Torrents just became a bit more popular...

 

[HiRez]

I have a great idea, let's just make every movie it's own streaming service. That way each service you sign up for will only ever have 1 item available, it couldn't be more simple.

 

[EdT]

I have a great idea, let's just make every movie it's own streaming service. That way each service you sign up for will only ever have 1 item available, it couldn't be more simple.

If that movie is Plan 9 from Outer Space then I'm in.

 

[Gasu E.]

Hey Disney, if people can't find the stuff they're looking for on the streaming service they currently have, they're not going to switch to yours. They'll pirate it. Easy as that.

No one has to switch. You are allowed to subscribe to more than one service at a time. This is the "a la carte" option many people have been asking for.

 

[Abazigal]

Apparently Disney believes they lost out on a penny or two here and there. Monetizing themselves out of the hearts and minds of those that can afford it.

I'm not sure if companies making decisions like this understand they are making themselves larger targets for pirates.

The target market (parents with young kids) aren't going to bother torrenting. They will just pay the monthly fee so they can shut their kids up with 2 hours of Disney movies and have some quiet time to themselves.

The revenue they gain from this captive audience will be far more than what is lost to pirates.

 

[TsMkLg068426]

A La Carte is no different from Cable package it is just another way for studios to cash in a better and more ways.

 

[KAZphoto]

No they don't. Most people (I would say more than 98%) don't even know how to pirate - and especially pirate without getting a bunch of virus's, fake files and everything else, so the only people it "encourages" are the people who ARE already pirating content. Thieves just like to make excuses for being a thief.

I would somewhat disagree with your last statement. There are a whole lot of people that subscribe to Netflix and Hulu alone for convenience. There is no need to pirate a show or movie that is there available the whole time. It's ones that are not there or get taken down that will get pirated.

Also, it seems like a better tactic they should pursue would be negotiating with Netflix to make Disney material a couple dollar add-on to your existing account. A higher tier, if you will, to unlock all that programming. Easier to get people to upgrade than sign up for another service, and they could both advertise for the service.

 

[springsup]

Huh? It's already fragmented. For example, just look at Marvel. If you want access to all of the Marvel movies, you have to subscribe to Epix, Starz, and Netflix. If Disney is able to launch a standalone service with all the Marvel stuff under one roof, it would be cheaper than subscribing to all the different services that we must do now.

But then you only get Marvel content. Can they put out new content at a high-enough rate (and quality) to sustain a subscription?

 

[JeffyTheQuik]

I was hoping for this, along with:

The Disney cartoons with heroes with a dead father streaming for $4.99/month
The Disney cartoons with heroes that actually kill their father streaming for $5.99/month
The Disney cartoons with heroes with a dead mother streaming for $3.99/month
The Disney cartoons with heroes with two dead parents streaming for $7.99/month
The Disney cartoon with heroes with two (or more) live sets of parents streaming for $0.99/month
The Disney live action channel with remakes of other Disney movies for $2.99/month
The Disney live action channel with Disney Channel stars that ended up in rehab for $19.99/month
The Disney live action channel with movies that actually have a good story, music, and stars that didn't wind up embarrassing themselves afterward for $2.99/month

...and the list goes on...
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I would somewhat disagree with your last statement. There are a whole lot of people that subscribe to Netflix and Hulu alone for convenience. There is no need to pirate a show or movie that is there available the whole time. It's ones that are not there or get taken down that will get pirated.

Also, it seems like a better tactic they should pursue would be negotiating with Netflix to make Disney material a couple dollar add-on to your existing account. A higher tier, if you will, to unlock all that programming. Easier to get people to upgrade than sign up for another service, and they could both advertise for the service.

Plus, Netflix already has the infrastructure to accommodate them, and I'd actually pay for the add-on to Netflix, rather than have another freaking app to install on my Apple TV4...5...

 

[Pamela5]

I'm very disappointed about this. However, Disneys been quickly milking and mass producing all they can out of Star Wars since they bought it so a streaming service for Star Wars content doesn't surprise me at all.

 

[KAZphoto]

I was hoping for this, along with:

The Disney cartoons with heroes with a dead father streaming for $4.99/month
The Disney cartoons with heroes that actually kill their father streaming for $5.99/month
The Disney cartoons with heroes with a dead mother streaming for $3.99/month
The Disney cartoons with heroes with two dead parents streaming for $7.99/month
The Disney cartoon with heroes with two (or more) live sets of parents streaming for $0.99/month
The Disney live action channel with remakes of other Disney movies for $2.99/month
The Disney live action channel with Disney Channel stars that ended up in rehab for $19.99/month
The Disney live action channel with movies that actually have a good story, music, and stars that didn't wind up embarrassing themselves afterward for $2.99/month

...and the list goes on...
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Plus, Netflix already has the infrastructure to accommodate them, and I'd actually pay for the add-on to Netflix, rather than have another freaking app to install on my Apple TV4...5...

lol that's a pretty great channel list! Glad I'm not alone on this. Seems easier to have through the apps and infrastructure they already have, as well as customer base. We would gladly pay for it as an add on. I just don't know how many more internet log ins I can deal with!

 

[mmm1345]

I would somewhat disagree with your last statement. There are a whole lot of people that subscribe to Netflix and Hulu alone for convenience. There is no need to pirate a show or movie that is there available the whole time. It's ones that are not there or get taken down that will get pirated.

Also, it seems like a better tactic they should pursue would be negotiating with Netflix to make Disney material a couple dollar add-on to your existing account. A higher tier, if you will, to unlock all that programming. Easier to get people to upgrade than sign up for another service, and they could both advertise for the service.

agree. It's what they are doing on Amazon and Hulu now. Although the nickel and diming gets ridiculous, you pay $12 for those services and they are still charging you additional - Hulu it's $4 for add free, $10 for HBO Go add-on, $10 for Starz, etc. At some point it becomes ridiculous. But it's better than dealing with all these separate apps, bills, interfaces, logons, etc.. I think when the time comes I'd rather just pay Hulu, Netflix or Amazon and then I'd at least have a consistent experience.

 

[JeffyTheQuik]

Been saying that for many many years now ever since the "cord cutter hype" started here on MR...

Always wondered why people thought that these companies will make life easier and cheaper at the same time for folks.

Companies aren't helpless cucks you know, if they see an opportunity to suck you dry of your money, they'll do it if they have leverage.

Glassed Silver:mac

Because people thought that 200 channels for $50 meant that they could save $49.00 by only watching those 4 channels they always watch.

 

[Juicy Box]

I see a lot of complaining going on the thread, poster putting down cord cutting options, hating on all the streaming services that are out now, or rumored to be out soon.

I understand that a lot of people don't want to subscribe to another service, but no one says you have to subscribe. If there is content you are missing due to changes like this, then you could always buy the content, rent it, go to the public library and get it for free, or many other options.

You could subscribe to the new service for only one month and binge everything you want to watch.

Or you could go back to the cable companies.

What posters are not realizing (or maybe they are and just like to complain) is that consumers now have more choices than ever before on what we watch, when we watch it, and how we watch it.

It wasn't that long ago that pretty much everyone had very few choices on how to watch a movie or TV show. We now have more choices than ever before, and people act like they are still owed something.....

Companies aren't helpless cucks you know, if they see an opportunity to suck you dry of your money, they'll do it if they have leverage.

Only if you let them. If you are lucky enough to have more than one ISP at your home, you can save a lot of money by switching ISPs every time they increase the price. So many people have this option, but fail to use it, all while complaining about their cable/ISP bills (my parents).

Now, if you are stuck with only one choice, then they do have the leverage. Not much you can do but bend over and take it.

Because people thought that 200 channels for $50 meant that they could save $49.00 by only watching those 4 channels they always watch.

Depending on what those 4 channels are, you could possibly still save at least that much.