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At this point I just use Pluto TV free with ads. The paid services have them too now so what’s the point?

I live by myself so all of these services don’t acknowledge me as a customer. If it takes 4+ streams to watch 4K I’m not interested.

Similar to what many of you are all saying about sharing I will not pay for four people to subsidize your costs having a family. Not paying for a family plan living alone.

When these services charge per stream I’ll buy one cheaper 4K stream for myself.

Streaming services currently tailor to families that need babysitters so they don’t need to parent. Eventually they will run out of subscribers and have to acknowledge us.
 
i pirate all my media anyways, this doesn't bother me.
There‘s nothing worth pirating on the service. Gave up on Marvel, Star Wars, and every new movie is an absolute dumpster fire. My 10 year old daughter could write a better story line than what we’re getting now.

You have to constantly create new content to bring in or keep subscribers; Many people have already seen Disney's old catalog of content. You cannot rely on the back catalog. This is true of every major streaming service providers (i.e. Netflix, HBO Max, Paramount+, Disney+, Apple TV+, Amazon, etc).

Production costs have gone up significantly these past few years. A decade ago, it typically cost $2 million to $5 million an episode (e.g. House of Cards; Orange is the New Black). You now have studios spending $25 million per episode or more. Amazon spent $465 million on season 1 (8 episodes) of The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power; That's $58.125 million per episode!

Why do you think all of them are raising prices, cracking down on password sharing, offering ad-supported tiers, etc?
Amazon spent all that money on LotR, and then made something that wasn’t LotR and wondered why it flopped. 😂

i wish disney had something i'd want to pirate.
Same. What they did to Star Wars was an absolute tragedy. How do you have all the main characters (actors) under contract and not give them one second of screen time together? Then destroy everything that came before it in the next movie. 🤦‍♂️

...and destroying any franchise they can get their hands on.
R.I.P. Star Wars and Marvel.
 
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Not exactly apples-to-apples. If I subscribe to cable tv, I can’t lend that to you, you have to get your own cable tv.
You can, somewhat... What exactly is cable TV these days anyway? Lots of channels/networks have their own app and offer live TV and/or on-demand access to shows if you sign in with your cable provider. There have been people who cut the cord, but uses someone else’s login in order to watch their favorite shows through the apps instead of from the cable that comes through the wall.
 
Content companies should have stuck to licensing content out instead of running streaming services, and streaming services should have focused on buying content and running the best service possible instead of trying to make a ton of their own.

Now we have a ton of crap content spread across a ton of mediocre services with a little bit of good stuff sprinkled across each.

What a mess. Not just for users but for the companies too, clearly. They are all losing money trying to run streaming services, while with a little cooperation this could have been better for everyone.
Netflix showed how ludicrous streaming services could be, so those which owns the content start to think “why not do our own instead of working together for the better?” The one service type replaced cable now becomes a harder to use cable.

I once heard about stories talking about Jews flourishing a region around a gas station with hospitals, stores etc etc, whereas Chinese people built gas stations after gas stations at the same region, eventually driving everyone out of business. Streaming companies today is doing just what Chinese in that story does, but worse.
You have to constantly create new content to bring in or keep subscribers; Many people have already seen Disney's old catalog of content. You cannot rely on the back catalog. This is true of every major streaming service providers (i.e. Netflix, HBO Max, Paramount+, Disney+, Apple TV+, Amazon, etc).

Production costs have gone up significantly these past few years. A decade ago, it typically cost $2 million to $5 million an episode (e.g. House of Cards; Orange is the New Black). You now have studios spending $25 million per episode or more. Amazon spent $465 million on season 1 (8 episodes) of The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power; That's $58.125 million per episode!

Why do you think all of them are raising prices, cracking down on password sharing, offering ad-supported tiers, etc?
Which raises two questions: why the cost goes up ten fold or even fifty fold? And second, why those content creators no longer want to work with each other, but rather fight on their own with limited resources they have at hand?
 
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Because offering something for 2% of your user base is not something companies generally do.
If only 2% of customers are interested in sharing their account with someone outside their household, they wouldn't go to such lengths to limit password sharing. They wouldn't provoke the negative sentiment for a measly 2% increase in revenue on something that's supposedly 25% in the red.

If you're sharing passwords with people you live with, that's already not a problem. The problem is people sharing the password with a friend, family member, etc. who they don't live with. I fail to see how a plan that allows multiple households is something only 2% of the user base applies to.
 
Your analogy is way off. You didn’t buy all of Disney’s entire catalog for $10–that’s ludicrous. You paid $10 for access to it for a month. Just like you don’t buy all the equipment in a 24 Hour Fitness gym for $30. Are we also entitled to open the back door of the gym to let our friends in because we have a membership?
If you want to own (and lend out) your media, you have to buy Bluray discs. Subscriptions exist for people who don’t want to own and would just rather have access to a ton of content for dirt cheap.

And its that access I have that i am doing whatever i want with
 
You can, somewhat... What exactly is cable TV these days anyway? Lots of channels/networks have their own app and offer live TV and/or on-demand access to shows if you sign in with your cable provider. There have been people who cut the cord, but uses someone else’s login in order to watch their favorite shows through the apps instead of from the cable that comes through the wall.
You completely missed my point. I was comparing streaming to traditional cable service which requires a physical connection to a home. I can’t share a traditional cable installation/subscription with someone across town, let alone in another state. The continuing trend of cord cutting is exactly what companies like Disney are attempting to navigate, because that old model where every home paid for service has now turned into every 4 or 5 homes splitting the bill for a single sub.
 
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if I buy a book I can lend it to a friend. kinda sick of people normalizing digital goods as these rented services from companies we have no rights to.

The very simple reason is a book is a physical good that you can purchase, and a streamed movie/TV show are not.

If I lend you a book, I can no longer read it until you return it. You have possession of the single copy I own. One purchase, one reader.

If I give you my Disney+ password, however, we can both watch licensed content at the same time.

There's a world of difference.
 
This should be interesting. If a kid is in college, in a different state from her family, what are they going to do? She is still a resident of that home, and pays taxes at that address.
 
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The very simple reason is a book is a physical good that you can purchase, and a streamed movie/TV show are not.

If I lend you a book, I can no longer read it until you return it. You have possession of the single copy I own. One purchase, one reader.

If I give you my Disney+ password, however, we can both watch licensed content at the same time.

There's a world of difference.

And the solution for that is limit the number of simultaneous streams.
Looks like I’ll be cancelling more and more services as I can’t justify paying separately for myself (who lives alone) and my mother (who also lives alone after my father's passing earlier this year).
I doubt we have ever used two streams at the same time (even when my father was alive) from the same service, but we are now expected to pay twice as much as say a family of 6 in a single household that could have FOUR streams simultaneously.
 
And its that access I have that i am doing whatever i want with
That mindset would get you kicked out of almost any establishment that gives you access. So you would let people in the back door of your gym? Or a movie theater? You can’t do whatever you want when it’s breaking an agreement. That’s anarchy. You have no solid logical or moral argument to stand on.
 
I have never understood why password sharing was considered legitimate on a paid for service. I know Netflix actively encouraged the practice for a while, which makes it difficult to accept them removing the privilege. However in this case it was never a legitimate option and we should be prepared to pay for an ad free service. Now if they add ads. then it is a different matter because I will never pay a company to deliver advertising to my house and the service should be free.
Because first of all, Netflix encouraged it. People then applied that thinking to all streaming services.

Second, they made it really easy, by letting each user sharing an account have their own independent profile, and allowing several simultaneous streams. It worked perfectly and seamlessly for years.

Third, they didn't say anything about not wanting people to do it until literally this year.

If they didn't want people sharing passwords, they would have said something years ago. The simple truth is that password sharing has allowed many more people to see and become addicted to the content, and now that people can't do without it, they're clamping down to try to obtain the additional revenue.
 
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If only 2% of customers are interested in sharing their account with someone outside their household, they wouldn't go to such lengths to limit password sharing. They wouldn't provoke the negative sentiment for a measly 2% increase in revenue on something that's supposedly 25% in the red.

If you're sharing passwords with people you live with, that's already not a problem. The problem is people sharing the password with a friend, family member, etc. who they don't live with. I fail to see how a plan that allows multiple households is something only 2% of the user base applies to.

Ya OP said families with multiple households. Which is basically families with a college student, families who live apart due to work obligations, or families with multiple residences.
 
people used to share cable all the time it just wasn't legal because the law is designed for corporate profit

I don’t understand the mental gymnastics you’re using to justly your complaints.
Like I get you don’t want to pay for something but there’s no real justification for going outside of terms. Just own it rather than justifying it.
 
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