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They have to go over the top and should have done it years ago. Still, better late than never.

I refuse to buy cable as 95% of what they offer I'm not interested in and 95% of what I'm interested in they don't offer.

The only possible solution is internet delivery and it's madness that twenty years after broadband I still can get only get about 25% of what I want to watch online and sometimes it's easier just to buy a dvd on Amazon.

Creating new content and making it available online is only a partial workaround because as with Netflix and Amazon, most of what they create is crap.

Incumbent rights holders are continually shooting themselves in the foot to preserve out-dated contracts and business models. So just as CNN reinvented news and with their low quality 24 hr coverage and eventually came to dominate, so Netflix will dominate better content with their formulaic but easy access model.

Apple's iTunes model - à la carte - is the only one that viewers actually want (would be even better with a subscription) but it has been blocked at every turn by rights holders so their offering is still severely limited. They will be forced to go the Netflix route too and make B-content to fill up the database for a monthly sub, occasionally producing the odd hit until they're a decent alternative for low-end viewing.

Of all content creators though, I think Disney/Pixar/Star Wars/Marvel has by far the best track record for creating compelling films and so far can do things no other film studios can do. So Disney Plus should be a hit.
 
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I have no intention to support Disney in any way. Good luck with the service, but I'm not interested, even if it is for free.
 
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I love Disney, Pixar, Star Wars, and some Marvel movies but there are just way too many subscription services now. Think of how hard it is to watch the shows you like. Off the top of my head, you need Netflix for Friends, Hulu for South Park, HBO GO for Silicon Valley, CBS All Access for the Star Trek series, ESPN GO for sports, Viki for Korean dramas, and Crunchyroll for anime.

The worst part is that you still need a cable subscription to stream many shows.

Don't you just subscribe to one, watch everything you want to and then unsubscribe and subscribe to other with the different content you want?
 
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I don’t see how they have enough new content to warrant a streaming service. Unless of course they include the abc and fox stuff but then the average joe doesnt really associate those with being Disney so the branding is a a bit confusing if that happens.

I still think it’s cheaper to buy what you want instead of renting/streaming.

I don’t have cable and I just pay for the shows I watch in a season pass via iTunes which usually works out cheaper over the year


ABC, fox and Nat Geo stuff will be on there. That’s a lot of television. Now throw all the Disney and Fox movies on top of those television shows. That’s a lot of product
 
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I am reading all the comments about “too many streaming services” and I am laughing my ass off. Because it was not too long ago members here were harping about a la carte services. Buying individual channels/services and how bundled cable sucked. Whenever I and other mentioned that a la carte would be even more expensive than cable.... they didn’t believe us.

Now you have many choices of “channels” and now you see what we were saying all along.

Told ya!
Ever consider that the people who are complaining about too many streaming services are not the same people screaming for a la carte?

But by all means laugh your ass off.
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What will happen to Luke Cage and Dare Devil in Netflix?
Netflix canceled:
Luke Cage
Iron Fist
Netflix cancels Marvel shows
Will Disney pick them up?
Anyone's guess right now.
 
Since we don’t know exactly what content will be on there we can’t really say how desirable this service will be. But for me in general Disney isn’t content I’m interested in.

Why on earth this mega deal was ever approved is BEYOND my understanding.

The purpose of regulation and regulators is to help big business get bigger and richer.
 
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I don't see myself subscribing to Disney's streaming service until my wife and I have kids. Plus, Netflix, Hulu, Directv Now, Amazon and Spotify already get our money anyway and have enough great content.
 
People already complaining about a service that doesn’t even exist yet. So here we are with lots of choices (great for consumers) and people cry. These are the same people who cry about not having enough choices. You just can’t please some people.

I have no intention to support Disney in any way. Good luck with the service, but I'm not interested, even if it is for free.
You've got to be kidding me. Two separate pennypackers in one thread? This is odd.
 
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What’s so weird is that Disney will own 60% (the majority) of Hulu after Fox deal goes through. Yet they’re still creating a new service and will have to create two unique sets of exclusive content.

Yeah, doesn't make much sense to me either... Why not just make it part of Hulu?
 
For every single separate streaming service that gets released the piracy community sees an uptick. Will these studios ever learn?

Learn to do what? Learn that no matter what they do, they can’t compete with free? Learn that no matter what they do, piracy advocates will always find some grievance to justify piracy? Or learn to just not offer any product at all? What exactly is it that pirates want?
 
Learn to do what? Learn that no matter what they do, they can’t compete with free? Learn that no matter what they do, piracy advocates will always find some grievance to justify piracy? Or learn to just not offer any product at all? What exactly is it that pirates want?

Complexity drives people away. Be happy with a small slice of the pie, rather then none at all. People won't subscribe to 10 different $20/mo streaming services. Some will subscribe to a few and then just share their login. At the prices these studios are expecting, people WILL find alternatives. Netflix WAS the best direction we were heading. Everyone was signing up for it (relatively cheap at $10 a mo), but studio got greedy and started pulling their films/shows out to run their own. Good luck to that, I know I'll be finding "alternative" solutions outside my Netflix/YouTubeTV combo.

BTW, you CAN compete with free. Everyone has access to FREE over the air tv, but people rarely use it as it's complex to setup at home (especially with a homegrown DVR solution). Hence why people pay for Comcast and other TV providers, but their greed got people to look else where. And these studios are lining up to be the next Comcast when it comes to TV.
 
I am reading all the comments about “too many streaming services” and I am laughing my ass off. Because it was not too long ago members here were harping about a la carte services. Buying individual channels/services and how bundled cable sucked. Whenever I and other mentioned that a la carte would be even more expensive than cable.... they didn’t believe us.

Now you have many choices of “channels” and now you see what we were saying all along.

Told ya!

You won’t see me complaining - I’ve been streaming only for about a year and I love it. Pick up a service and try it for a bit - if I find I’m not watching it I can drop it easily.

Through the last year I’ve had: Netflix, Amazon, Hulu with locals (dropped then picked up again later), DirectvNow (dropped for lack of local channels), HBO (now free with my ATT), NFL Sunday Ticket, MLB at Bat and shortly tried a few others.

Including my internet service it was all still cheaper than my Fios plan was with a medium number of channels... and it’s all a lot more convenient and with a better interface too.

I won’t ever go back...
 
Once upon time there was cable with about 100 channels for $29.99 which had 10 to 20 times the content of over the air. But as the cable systems grew and consolidated, adding junk content. They charged more and more until the people rebelled. So systems such as Netflix and Hulu come along and captured the resistance. They had all the good content for 1/10 the price. Over time the content providers and the cable companies took notice and slowly but surely started pulling their content from Netflix and others to set up their own systems. So now we could choose from a dozen or more streaming systems each with their own proprietary content. Replacing your cable content with enough streaming systems now costs as much as cable and navigating from one show to the next is awkward and complicated. What we really wanted was a cable-like system that has all the content we want in one place, is easy to navigate and doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

Why don't the cable companies offer an HD-content-only package? Why should I pay for SD content I don't watch? Why should I pay for Jimmy Swaggart and Pat Robertson who I don't watch? We don't want totally a la carte. We just want to not pay for the channels we don't watch.

Even if you get all your content through streaming apps, you still need the cable company's overpriced internet service to get the streaming content because it is even more expensive to get all your internet service over the cellular system.
 
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Complexity drives people away. Be happy with a small slice of the pie, rather then none at all. People won't subscribe to 10 different $20/mo streaming services. Some will subscribe to a few and then just share their login. At the prices these studios are expecting, people WILL find alternatives. Netflix WAS the best direction we were heading. Everyone was signing up for it (relatively cheap at $10 a mo), but studio got greedy and started pulling their films/shows out to run their own. Good luck to that, I know I'll be finding "alternative" solutions outside my Netflix/YouTubeTV combo.

BTW, you CAN compete with free. Everyone has access to FREE over the air tv, but people rarely use it as it's complex to setup at home (especially with a homegrown DVR solution). Hence why people pay for Comcast and other TV providers, but their greed got people to look else where. And these studios are lining up to be the next Comcast when it comes to TV.

Aw, it’s complexity now is it? Installing a BitTorrent client and seeking out trackers for mkv Files, filtering out all the fakes, dodging the malware, and running a home media server isn’t complex, but signing up for Disney+ is?

And I love the irony of you demanding that somebody else should take be happy with a smaller piece of the pie, just so you don’t have to lose access to some content, or as you might say...take a smaller piece of the pie. Not because you’re greedy though. They’re the greedy ones.

It’s a free market. Content creators are going to offer competing products whether you like it or not and they aren’t going to be cowed by a bunch of folks who threaten to pirate. People who are willing and able to pirate found an excuse for doing it long ago. Something about the price, or the release date, or the ads, or the subtitles, or something about greed.
 
Aw, it’s complexity now is it? Installing a BitTorrent client and seeking out trackers for mkv Files, filtering out all the fakes, dodging the malware, and running a home media server isn’t complex, but signing up for Disney+ is?

And I love the irony of you demanding that somebody else should take be happy with a smaller piece of the pie, just so you don’t have to lose access to some content, or as you might say...take a smaller piece of the pie. Not because you’re greedy though. They’re the greedy ones.

It’s a free market. Content creators are going to offer competing products whether you like it or not and they aren’t going to be cowed by a bunch of folks who threaten to pirate. People who are willing and able to pirate found an excuse for doing it long ago. Something about the price, or the release date, or the ads, or the subtitles, or something about greed.
Plus adding and configuring a VPN.
 
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