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Can someone explain to me what’s the point, same MacBook with a new chip? The m3 is still over kill and my M1 Max still will have Apple intelligence. So what’s the reason to upgrade. The m2, m3 and now m4 isn’t really worth it for just a slightly faster chip, we need a redesign or smaller notch or something major changed


I agree with you. I still use my 14” MBP M1 Pro and it absolutely decimates everything I throw at it. M2+ is absolutely overkill and bragging rights at this point.
 
I agree with you. I still use my 14” MBP M1 Pro and it absolutely decimates everything I throw at it. M2+ is absolutely overkill and bragging rights at this point.
The productive computing world does not revolve around your computer use cases.

Apple Silicon has CLEAR shortcomings in a wide variety of productive computing use in-demand: They only introduced ray-tracing with M3 to even be COMPATIBLE with current-gen rendering/gaming expectations and there is no such things as ANY APU being too fast or fast enough for most regarding AI computing.

Apple Silicon’s GPU performance leaves a LOT to be desired by prosumers.

And creative professionals would very much want their laptops to have AV1 hardware decoding.

Finally people upgrade every year with various productive use cases having yearly advancements that make yearly releases very handy and necessary for most productive computer users.

Even to get the ball rolling on more serious investments in the same technology with future models.

The groundworks for devs to begin relying on such things to use necessitate newer models; productive people expect new computers the same year of such advancements to ideally have such things.
 
The productive computing world does not revolve around your computer use cases.

Apple Silicon has CLEAR shortcomings in a wide variety of productive computing use in-demand: They only introduced ray-tracing with M3 to even be COMPATIBLE with current-gen rendering/gaming expectations and there is no such things as ANY APU being too fast or fast enough for most regarding AI computing.

Apple Silicon’s GPU performance leaves a LOT to be desired by prosumers.

And creative professionals would very much want their laptops to have AV1 hardware decoding.

Finally people upgrade every year with various productive use cases having yearly advancements that make yearly releases very handy and necessary for most productive computer users.

Even to get the ball rolling on more serious investments in the same technology with future models.

The groundworks for devs to begin relying on such things to use necessitate newer models; productive people expect new computers the same year of such advancements to ideally have such things.


I guess when I throw multi million rows of data, 20+ other analyst’s apps and programs all running at the same time, while the M1 Pro never skips a beat isn’t considered “productive”, I don’t know what is - shrugs-

But, hey…the latest and greatest will surely make me, and others, a better productive person! 👍
 
I guess when I throw multi million rows of data, 20+ other analyst’s apps and programs all running at the same time, while the M1 Pro never skips a beat isn’t considered “productive”, I don’t know what is - shrugs-

But, hey…the latest and greatest will surely make me, and others, a better productive person! 👍
…Again Apple doesn’t revolve the advancements of their hardware because your rather straightforward use cases are met with older hardware of theirs.

There are an abundance of professional use cases beyond your use cases (and mine).

That’s not how prosumer hardware evolves whatsoever.

There’s no such thing as a too fast laptops at varies in-demand tasks. Any serious professional whose work takes often necessitates a desktop like mine knows this. Also time is money.

Your use cases aren’t related to well known limitations of Apple’s Apple Silicon I already thoroughly described known by consensus by reviewers and countless professional communities around the world as common bottlenecks.

Cool older Macs support your use cases well enough to not buy another computer that costs thousands, that should all that matters to you.
 
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Can someone explain to me what’s the point, same MacBook with a new chip? The m3 is still over kill and my M1 Max still will have Apple intelligence. So what’s the reason to upgrade. The m2, m3 and now m4 isn’t really worth it for just a slightly faster chip, we need a redesign or smaller notch or something major changed
more efficiency = race to sleep for better battery life.

the GPUs and neural engines are much improved over the M1 too.

There's probably not much point upgrading from your M1 Max unless you are using it to make money and are processing bound or otherwise could use higher specs - or you want a new warranty.

If that doesn't sound like you... guess what... nobody is forcing you to buy these.
 
no more butterfly keyboards, so there is nothing to be fixed
Unfortnately, that is a different jira ticket:) Long story short, a lot of us have keyboards where the finish or perhaps the plastic itself gets worn off in a matter of months, leaving the keyboard looking oily/greasy and shiny. It is not a great look.
 
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