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This is great progress but I feel like they’re upping the K’s too fast. The 1080p standard lasted a decade and 4K/5K market penetration is still low compared to 1080p/1440p displays. While this is obviously targeted towards the pro crowd, it will be a decade before 8K+ displays are the norm for consumers. Not only is the law of diminishing returns coming into play but the bandwidth and storage required for these ultra resolutions is not worth the marginal increase in perceptible quality and there’s only so large a monitor can realistically be. Sitting a foot or less away from a 55-65” monitor just isn’t practical.

It’s similar to the TV market. 4K is just taking off right now and even then we’re still years away from most people having a high-end 4K TV truly capable of DV and HDR at home. Yet 8K TVs are already being marketed. Now 8K is part of the BT.2020 UHD spec. The problem is that we’re still years away from ATSC 3.0 aka broadcast 4K HLG HDR. And I don’t see Hollywood releasing movies in 8K anytime soon. Today most blockbuster movies still have 2K DIs due to CGI. As good as upscaling has become, the advantage from resolutions higher than 8K, at least for the consumer will be limited. To take advantage of 8K you really need 75-100” TVs and those will never become mainstream sizes due to high costs and the space required. They’re pretty much strictly for homeowners and the large condos/apartments with very large living rooms.
 
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16K? Seriously? Unless your screen is as big as a house, I don't see how people benefit. Your eyes can only detect so much.
my guess is this is aimed more at being able to push ti multiple displays than one big 16k screen.

not hard to imagine a pro using 3 5k screens (only 15k bust still)

I'm all for getting faster and faster transmission rates, and higher capacities even if they seem unnecessary, people will find uses for them. :)
 
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Just one 16K display? Forget it. I won't even consider if I can use two, and do the math, 32k is more than 16K, so why are we wasting time with this low-res junk?

Is it me, or did displays get really stupid lately? Reminds me of the video game bit wars, or the CPU GHz wars. Same with phones and PPI on a 6" screen. So half my computing power is going to manage zillions of pixels.... thanks, no thanks.
 
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Serious, MacRumors editors...the most important, well, relevant part of the Press Release was left out of this article.

From the Press Release:

When using only two lanes on the USB-C connector via DP Alt Mode to allow for simultaneous SuperSpeed USB data and video, DP 2.0 can enable such configurations as:

• Three 4K (3840×2160) displays @144Hz and 30 bpp 4:4:4 HDR (with DSC)
• Two 4Kx4K (4096×4096) displays (for AR/VR headsets) @120Hz and 30 bpp 4:4:4 HDR (with DSC)
• Three QHD (2560×1440) @120Hz and 24 bpp 4:4:4 (no compression)
• One 8K (7680×4320) display @30Hz and 30 bpp 4:4:4 HDR (no compression)​

The above specs are much more relevant to most of the computing public in the near-term. The market penetration of 4K and subsequently 4K gaming and AR/VR applications is something we should all be paying attention to for the foreseeable future. Whoever in the Marketing Department at VESA came up with 10K as a bullet point gets props for creating it out of whole cloth, unless they know something we don’t know. Sure, a Medical Imaging monitor may hit 10K shortly, but consumers are still wrapping their head around 4K, much less 8K and higher. The 16K resolution is just absurd for almost every consumer front facing application. I love future proofing and high end specs as much as the next person, but driving a 4K display @144Hz or 4K VR@120Hz with full color and HDR is incredibly important in the immediate future. Hell, Digital Cinema Projectors are only pushing 4096x2160.

Of course, this sort of support is only going to be relevant to us (Mac users) when Intel revs the next Thunderbolt 3 controller to support DP 2.0. Alpine Ridge (2016-2017 MBP, 2017 iMac and iMac Pro) has DP 1.2 and Titan Ridge (2018-2019 MBP, 2018 Mac mini, 2019 iMac and 2019 Mac Pro) have DP 1.4, but DP 1.4 support is limited to Coffee Lake and above on is limited to the eDP connector for an LCD panel.

The most important thing is how the morass of USB-C 3.2, 3.2+2, USB 4.0 will interoperate (or not) with Thunderbolt 3 and when and if Thunderbolt 4 becomes a real thing or not and move users to DisplayPort 2.0 (or not). Certainly this connectivity will be integrated into PCIe-based AIB GPUs first and motherboards and controllers, CPUs second. This is where the rubber meets the road in terms of PCIe 4.0+ being relevant for most of us, aside from the possibilities of PCIe 4.0-based SSD controllers and NAND pushing into 5–7GBps Read/Write speeds on an m.2 NVMe stick.

The future is always just around the corner.

Source: https://www.displayport.org/pr/vesa...-for-4k-hdr-and-virtual-reality-applications/

Everyone needs to read this before commenting. So many ridiculously unimaginative posts in this thread. Not hard to picture realistic use cases beyond a single giant screen.
 
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Just one 16K display? Forget it. I won't even consider if I can use two, and do the math, 32k is more than 16K, so why are we wasting time with this low-res junk?

Is it me, or did displays get really stupid lately? Reminds me of the video game bit wars, or the CPU GHz wars. Same with phones and PPI on a 6" screen. So half my computing power is going to manage zillions of pixels.... thanks, no thanks.

100% agree!

I’m sure 4K HDR is the bees knees, but is it really so much better than a 30Mbps Blu-Ray on a high-end 1080p HDTV that I should replace my Sony HDTV and rebuy my whole Blu-Ray collection with 4K Blu-Rays? I don’t think so...the cynic in me believes 4K was invented to make me rebuy all those movies I have on DVD then I rebought in Blu-Ray...that is, if I was a cynical person.;)

Full disclosure: I own zero 4K TVs, I own 2 4K computer monitors.
 
Still waiting for Apple to build a nice 5K 27" display for my MacBook Pro. They should be able to simply take a 27" Retina iMac, and remove the computer.
 
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Finally!

Now for some GPU's and Monitors to really make the most of this.

4k120(or even higher) + HDR + VRR + 4:4:4 chroma subsampling at last on monitors.

Between this and HDMI the future of display connectivity is basically solved.
 
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Wow, just wow. But how much will a 16k monitor cost, when one becomes available? Definitely for pro video processors, at least for a few years.

The price probably won't be that bad, considering the spec. Perhaps around the $8,000 mark.

Unfortunately the stand required for such a monitor would be where your wallet really gets a pounding. Expect to pay at least $12,000 for a stand that could support such an awesome monitor.

When Apple releases this new stand, we will all see just how courageous Apple really are.
 
Still waiting for Apple to build a nice 5K 27" display for my MacBook Pro. They should be able to simply take a 27" Retina iMac, and remove the computer.

Even better they are making a 6k 32” monitor. Price is $5000. Plus $1000 for the stand.
 
New port? I thought USB-C is the future?
Why do we need HDMI? Does the new DP2 does not carry sound?
 
Don't mind us Americans. We're a bit bonkers. Fortunately, some of us are a bit less than others.

Agreed that Americans (I’m one) do plenty of things backwards/strange but I’m gonna say we are right on this one.
A comma is a partial pause, a period is a full pause in English, German, French, Spanish, etc.
Therefore it follows that the full break in a number, between the whole part and the decimal part should be a full pause, the comma breaks to make reading the number easier but not strictly necessary should be the partial pause, or comma.
 
My word, the ‘haters’ are out in force!

New display port standard announced for future proofing and various other improvements such as GPU functionality and multiple display. Lots of people get fixated on 16k and go nuts....

If the new standard was limiting to one 8k display the same people would go nuts it’s not ‘future proofed’ enough..

Wow
 
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