DJ making the MBP switch now... or in January?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by broncoted, Nov 5, 2009.

  1. broncoted macrumors newbie

    Nov 5, 2009
    Ok so i'm set on the 13'' MBP for portability, size, and strength and got stuck.

    I will be primarily using this machine for heavy music downloading/use, regular browsing, and when I completely make the switch to all digital DJing, it will be the mainstay in my setup

    If I have no need for gaming or video/photo editing, would it be in my best interest to wait for the MBP upgrade anyway?

    It's not the most important thing for me to carry the 'biggest stick' but I would like to be completely competent. I'm about the multitasking.

    Any input would be greatly appreciated
  2. cfitz7111 macrumors 6502

    Jun 8, 2008
    DJ AM used a mac, that should be enough for you to make the switch. Seriously, the MBP 13 is a great machine, though I would wait until Jan or Feb if you can for the next release.
  3. Av1o3 macrumors member

    Oct 31, 2009
    I don't know about anything big happening to the mbp soon. But I do expect a silent little spec bump to the low end 13 inch, nothing too big maybe just a hard drive update since the new macbook has a bigger standard hard drive right now
  4. Flipstar macrumors member

    Jun 21, 2007
    If you're going with Serato, the most important thing you can get is more RAM. It'll help with if you have a lot of songs.
  5. broncoted thread starter macrumors newbie

    Nov 5, 2009
    I was actually leaning towards Traktor Pro, the interface is a little bit smoother in my opinion.

    So it sounds like i should actually wait for the new intel chips to drop?

    Oh, and since I can most definately fill the internal 160gb hd, can i use an external HD and onlt have music on it?

    For instance, can i have aplications/pics/documents on my internal and access songs without a lag if there is a firwire external connected?
  6. Dmich116 macrumors member

    Aug 27, 2008
    we might get new intel chips in january, but I think they will release them closer to the summer. But since I got the top of the line 17", i am hoping they dont release the new intel chips in a while lol
  7. Sneakz macrumors 65816


    Jul 17, 2008
    Toronto, Ontario, Canada
    Yeah, your just saying that because you just bought a 17":p. The chips will drop and be in MBPs by Feb.
  8. DKatri macrumors 6502

    Sep 2, 2009
    Birmingham, UK
    The 13MBP should be fine for what you want. Depending on what software you are using it might be a good idea to bump the RAM a bit to keep it running snappy and maybe a bigger HDD depending on how much music you have/need. Maybe even opting for an external drive might be better.
  9. broncoted thread starter macrumors newbie

    Nov 5, 2009
    RAM upgrade was def. in my sights - As far as external HD, can i just put music on it and access it quickly if its a firewire?
  10. ayeying macrumors 601


    Dec 5, 2007
    Yay Area, CA
    If you can, upgrade the ram to at least 4GB. Hard drive... I'm not sure here, there are 1TB 5400RPM hard drives around, but I'm not sure if the Speed would be an issue.

    Edit: Never mind, you're going for the 13". The 1TB won't fit. 500GB 7200RPM are available though.
  11. Niiro13 macrumors 68000

    Feb 12, 2008
    Traktor uses a lot of processing power if you have a ton of stuff connected so you might want to wait depending on how much stuff you have.

    You definitely can use an external HD. I actually had my iTunes library all on an external though firewire and it was fast (even when loading).

    But I didn't like connecting an external hard drive every time I wanted to get to my songs so I got an expresscard SSD (though with the new MacBook Pros that won't help you very much) which stays in my comp (it's pretty much flush).
  12. MACannibalLectR macrumors newbie

    Nov 6, 2009
    I do DS DJ'ing and honest Traktor isnt great. You should check out a program by Image Line called Deckadance. It allows you run it as a vsti aswell so you can have 4 or even 8 deck running at the same time and you can manage them via Logic Pro. I use Deckadance alot for acapellas because sometimes logic pro just cant match the vocals right ,using DxD as a vsti cuts that time down as you would just record the corrected acapella into an audo region and allows you to do real time creation all within logic pro.

    As for using a macbook pro.I havent found a solid reason to use a macbook pro yet but, i do have my eyes on the new 24" iMac.I think an iBook or a Powerbook G4 1.5/1.67 would be enough. if anything use a iBook or PB with a 7200 rpm HD.the noise and battery life wont really matter considering youll be plugged in anyway XD. an external drive was also a great idea. get a 500GB sata HD and ide adapter for it.

    Logic Pro 8 + Ableton Live + DxD = :)

    Deckadance Website :
    - If you dont do gaming or video then really you dont need a dual processor either.1.5/1.67 ghz works-
    -dont belive the hype Serato sucks XD-
  13. broncoted thread starter macrumors newbie

    Nov 5, 2009

    Thanks for the info and the link, i have seen Deckadance and it is pretty sweet, it honestly just left me more with a producing/remixing feel - i do weddings and corporate parties and really liked the straightforwardness of traktor pro

    And I demoed itch and really dint like the layout
  14. broncoted thread starter macrumors newbie

    Nov 5, 2009
    THanks, yea my production isnt that big, I mostly roll with bands - and at most i'd run a controller and thats about it - when did mac remove the expresscard slot? and why the hell would they do that?
  15. iphonematt Guest

    Jul 10, 2007
    I use Traktor Pro on my 15" pro. I would recommend the 15" pro for the screen real estate. You should definitely use an external drive (if to keep your music backup at a minimum). A 7200rpm drive would also be a good idea.
  16. jpefjr macrumors regular


    Jul 8, 2008
    June 8, 2009 at WWDC. The ExpressCard slot was dropped from the 15" MBP (and it never existed on the 13" MB/MBP) because, according to Phil Schiller in his keynote at WWDC, the ExpressCard slot was "used by less than a single digit percentage of our customers".

    The 17" MBP retains the ExpressCard slot and it's one of the two big reasons that I'll get the 17" over the 15" come February.
  17. broncoted thread starter macrumors newbie

    Nov 5, 2009

    have you ever had any crashing issues with your traktor setup? any crash at any point would, as im sure you know, destroy me

    after doing a bit more research it seems that serato itch is the most rock solid platform out there, although not as effects saavy as traktor.

    any thoughts?
  18. iphonematt Guest

    Jul 10, 2007
    I don't know that I have ever had traktor crash or freeze. i know back when it was traktor dj studio (before traktor pro) every once in a while there would be a very slight audio hiccup, but with pro i have never had that. I haven't used serato before, but i am VERY satisfied with traktor and would recommend it to anyone.
    Check out this link reviewing DJ software. Traktor is rated #1 and checkout their full review too.
  19. atticus18244fsa macrumors 6502


    Jul 11, 2008
    Waterloo, ON
    I use traktor with my 5400 internal. Works well. No lag at all. But AM used Serato so that must be good too.
  20. MACannibalLectR macrumors newbie

    Nov 6, 2009
    Yea, deckadance might be more extensive but why settle for traktor.i geuss it really is just user prefference.but if i do a set i want to remembered for the musical experience i created ....and not for being just a human cd player.whether its a small or big set you should always go all out.

    as for serato,just because DJ AM used it doesnt mean its "top" of the line.
    Traktor might seem great now but when you start to advance and want to do more than beat mixing and what not; youre going to get bored of traktor.
    consider Deckadance the "tiesto" of digital mixing software.

    The deckadance demo has its limits.its true its not something you can just jump into,but neither is DJ'ing.If you dont put in the work to learn you wont make it too far DJ'ing.

    -lol no i dont work for Deckadance,Deckadance works for me XD -
    - and Deckadance has multiple layouts,if you learn more about it you can figure out how to change them-
  21. Niiro13 macrumors 68000

    Feb 12, 2008
    You really should be fine. I've seen a MacBook Air run Traktor Pro (yes, it means that the person had to use a USB hub in order to accommodate the hard drive and the controller) so a MacBook Pro would do really well (and if there is no lag with a USB hard drive through a USB hub into the MacBook Air, Firewire 800 should be amazing).

    Future10's DJ Wirjono showcased a DJ setup with his MacBook Air and Traktor Scratch (though I'm not sure if the connected device was a controller) and it had enough power to even drive the 40+ screen behind him.
  22. broncoted thread starter macrumors newbie

    Nov 5, 2009
    Itch looks good because the controllers, at least the vci-300, have an external sound card built right in, and the interface is built around the controller - but - you must have the controller plugged in to be able to do any 'work,' such as pre setting cues and loops.

    THat is where traktor pro comes thru. Now if i download 12 songs and want to fully take advantage of being on top of my game, i can set my cues and loops and notes and organize my possible sets while on the couch.
  23. MACannibalLectR macrumors newbie

    Nov 6, 2009
    You dont need a controller to set up cues nor can be automated usin logic pro or ableton by using MIDI/Keyboard mapping on Ableton or Hyper Edit on Logic Pro then using an automator to control values on you mention its not something to just start up on but its like riding a bike. you can automate numerous crossfaders and the effects and make some really professional mixes and mash ups via vsti host. just use traktor and then try learning how to use deckadance with vsti hosts.see which way you lean towards more :)

    all this you can do from your mac keyboard alone.if you dont plan on using synthesizers or what not over the mix. also by using deckadance as a vsti you can you features like bus'ing and audio effects,correct harmonic clashes via pitch correction or using vocal corection, just name a few.the possibilities are endless.
  24. tempusfugit macrumors 65816

    May 21, 2009
    DJ AM also died from a crack overdose.
  25. MACannibalLectR macrumors newbie

    Nov 6, 2009
    lol =X that is true. Crack really does kill. check out some Deadmau5 sets on youtube. even though he uses numerous hosts,his main-stager is ableton

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