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I think my family a mixture of nordic mostly. I heard there is some Native American, but I doubt it. It's probably the same stories that Elizabeth Warren was told. My wife's from Japan and I wonder how the system breaks down her heritage.

I got the results back and its very interesting. Well worth the $99.

The maternal and paternal break downs are very cool. My mother's side is french and german and my dads side is scandinavian. It confirms all the stories you were told as a kid about your heritage. I also have a "decreased risk" of Male Pattern Baldness which is a plus. :)

But there's vast amounts of information there that one couldn't just skim thru. Also the results get better as time goes on as they compute thru all the data.

My wife and I send ours in at the same time however her results aren't yet back.

If 23 and me is still accepting samples I would highly recommend it.
 
I got the results back and its very interesting. Well worth the $99.

The maternal and paternal break downs are very cool. My mother's side is french and german and my dads side is scandinavian. It confirms all the stories you were told as a kid about your heritage. I also have a "decreased risk" of Male Pattern Baldness which is a plus. :)

I am in my 30's, and I don't know what my "risk" is for male pattern baldness, but my hair is thinning on the back on the top of my head. Good news is that hair is starting to replace it on other parts of my body.


But there's vast amounts of information there that one couldn't just skim thru. Also the results get better as time goes on as they compute thru all the data.

My wife and I send ours in at the same time however her results aren't yet back.

If 23 and me is still accepting samples I would highly recommend it.

That's cool to hear, my wife has been gone for 96 days, only have 47 more days until she comes back. So when she does I will ask her if she wants to do this.

I wonder what this would looks like for our mixed race children. She is Japanese and I am Caucasian, it might be interesting.
 
Well I have two "halfie" daughters. The results were beautiful. :)

To me mixed races make better looking people 9 out of 10 times. My son and daughter extremely cute and I don't think I am bias on this.

My poor kids were both sick in the hospital for a few days while in Japan recently.

DNA talk is a good time to show off a couple of recent pics, I am always looking for chances to show off my kids because if you see how ugly I am you'd be shocked these kids came from my DNA.
 

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To me mixed races make better looking people 9 out of 10 times. My son and daughter extremely cute and I don't think I am bias on this.

My poor kids were both sick in the hospital for a few days while in Japan recently.

DNA talk is a good time to show off a couple of recent pics, I am always looking for chances to show off my kids because if you see how ugly I am you'd be shocked these kids came from my DNA.

Haha Cute! Nice kimonos! Personally I think mixed kids speaking two languages are the wave of the future. If you think about what is important in the future and what will be important in a global digital setting, familiarity with other cultures and languages will be more important than ever before. My buddy married a persian girl and now has a son. He's looking forward to him learning farsi.

There's no real science behind this but in my opinion combining two strands of DNA from different races makes for a stronger human being. :)
 
There's no real science behind this but in my opinion combining two strands of DNA from different races makes for a stronger human being. :)

Strictly speaking, you are correct. However there is plenty of evolutionary and population genetic research that suggests that high genetic diversity is a good thing. This is what happens when 'races mix.'
 
The FamilyTreeDNA link mentions 37 markers. The Ancestry.com test mentions 700,000 markers, but from a practical standpoint, I don't know how significant this is. The Family Tree DNA test could be mentioning 37 specialized markers among 100s of thousands. It appears hard to compare apples to apples.

That's a good question. I tried a DNA kit for my mixed breed dog. It came back 100% confident that 1/2 was known (the obvious 1/2). It also came back 100% confident that they had zero idea what the 2nd half was. I asked my vet who told me that that company only had a database for 40 breeds or something so we tested another company with a larger database. Same result. Finally we tested with a 3rd company with allegedly every known breed in its database... same result.

The 37 markers of one company may be the 37 most important or reliable. It's worth a try. $99 is kind of a lot but could be a good present depending on the results. I mean, if they are 100% sure they are of one background then possible results show a completely different background could cause some pain and personal doubt of their "legitimacy". I would definitely examine the results of a loved one before presenting them the results.
 
Haha Cute! Nice kimonos! Personally I think mixed kids speaking two languages are the wave of the future. If you think about what is important in the future and what will be important in a global digital setting, familiarity with other cultures and languages will be more important than ever before. My buddy married a persian girl and now has a son. He's looking forward to him learning farsi.

There's no real science behind this but in my opinion combining two strands of DNA from different races makes for a stronger human being. :)

I don't know much Japanese, but I try to use as much Japanese as I can when talking to my kids, I probably speak 95% English to my kids and 5% Japanese. My wife speaks about 95% Japanese to our kids and 5% English. My daughter is almost 3 and knows a lot of English and Japanese, but I don't think she realizes the differences between the two yet and that not everyone can understand certain words. She will often say an English word to a Japanese person and vice versa.

Strictly speaking, you are correct. However there is plenty of evolutionary and population genetic research that suggests that high genetic diversity is a good thing. This is what happens when 'races mix.'


That's good to know, it's too bad it was frowned upon for so long. I lived in Korea for a couple of years a long time ago, and dated a Korean girl for couple of years. Some older Korean folks would talk down to my girlfriend at the time and suggest to her openly with me there that she should be with a Korean guy.
 
I'm really interested in doing this myself. My paternal side is primarily Italian but there's been debate on whether we're "Italian" or "Sicilian" - the cultures are different enough that if you're one, you typically don't want to claim to be the other. :rolleyes: My mom's side is Irish in theory but it's very vague. It'd be cool to get a better idea of my genetic history. I may have to spring for it on my birthday later this year.
 
That's a good question. I tried a DNA kit for my mixed breed dog. It came back 100% confident that 1/2 was known (the obvious 1/2). It also came back 100% confident that they had zero idea what the 2nd half was. I asked my vet who told me that that company only had a database for 40 breeds or something so we tested another company with a larger database. Same result. Finally we tested with a 3rd company with allegedly every known breed in its database... same result.

The 37 markers of one company may be the 37 most important or reliable. It's worth a try. $99 is kind of a lot but could be a good present depending on the results. I mean, if they are 100% sure they are of one background then possible results show a completely different background could cause some pain and personal doubt of their "legitimacy". I would definitely examine the results of a loved one before presenting them the results.

I'm really interested in doing this myself. My paternal side is primarily Italian but there's been debate on whether we're "Italian" or "Sicilian" - the cultures are different enough that if you're one, you typically don't want to claim to be the other. :rolleyes: My mom's side is Irish in theory but it's very vague. It'd be cool to get a better idea of my genetic history. I may have to spring for it on my birthday later this year.

For people ;), it's funny how we tend to categorize ourselves in general cultural/racial terms. This is how the Ancestry.com DNA tests have worked out for me and the wife. When you get the results of a DNA test, you also get a list of relations on Ancestry.com based on that test. For both of us they have come across as 3rd and 4th cousins, obviously it depends on who gets a test.

My wife grew up thinking of herself as half Irish and half Hispanic (Spain via Mexico). In actuality she is 11% Irish, 20% American Indian, 12% Iberian Peninsula (Spain), and the rest European (other than Spain or Ireland). This test was a real eye opener for my wife as on her Mom's side she is related to many significant historical U.S. figures such as Washington, Madison, Franklin, etc, etc, etc, even a King and a Queen in Europe. It's like the list is endless. I've told her on several occasions it won't make any difference until we start receiving our stipend.. :p

I grew up thinking I was half English and half German, but in actuality I am 64% Great Britain, 17% Scandinavian, 12% Greek/Italian and the rest trace amounts. Now what is odd is that both my Mother's parents based on family trees are descended from the Palantine region of Germany/Switzerland, but I have virtually no hits from Germany. My Mom has passed, so I jokingly asked my Dad if I was adopted and he said no, besides I look just like him, not that that proves anything. ;) He has sent for a DNA test, so his results should be interesting for comparison.

I have 3 trees that I have been entering into Ancestry.com and after that is completed, I will take out a membership so that I can actually do some research . My last name is Peck, I am associated with the Connecticut Pecks and back in 1638 a couple of Pecks came over on the same ship. The deal is that although there has been some speculation as to their relationship (brothers, nephew/uncle) there are no records that indicate how these 2 Pecks were related, if at all, but it is likely they were related. One of them has records that go back 20 generations in England, but that is for the other Peck, not the one we show in our tree. It would be cool if I could connect them for the added depth or lineage. :)
 
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To me mixed races make better looking people 9 out of 10 times. My son and daughter extremely cute and I don't think I am bias on this.

My poor kids were both sick in the hospital for a few days while in Japan recently.

DNA talk is a good time to show off a couple of recent pics, I am always looking for chances to show off my kids because if you see how ugly I am you'd be shocked these kids came from my DNA.

I agree that in many cases mixed races produce attractive results. :)
 
I'm back to compiling ancestry info online. :):)
I've known why siblings, unless they are identical twins, look different. See the following article.

My question is according to a DNA test can siblings show different ethnetic variations, such as 20% European vs 22% European, both having the same parents? A friend seems to think this. Anyone know? I've not been able verify online.


DNA Sibship Test - Sibling Genetics

Our unique DNA pattern is inherited from our parents. Each person has DNA in the form of 23 pairs of chromosomes. One chromosome of each pair is inherited from our mother, and the other chromosome of each pair is inherited from our father. Unlike most of the cells in our bodies, the sex cells (sperm and egg) only contain a single copy of each of the 23 chromosomes. Thus, when a sperm and an egg unite, the 23 pairs of chromosomes come together to form a complete chromosomes, and 50% of their father's chromosomes.

Understanding Patterns of Inheritance: Where Did My DNA Come From? (And Why It Matters.)

Your DNA contains a record of your ancestors, but you aren’t a carbon copy of any one of them. The particular mix of DNA you inherit is unique to you. You receive 50% of your DNA from each of your parents, who received 50% of theirs from each of their parents, and so on. In the chart below you can see how the amount of DNA you receive from a particular ancestor decreases over generations. If you go back far enough, there is a chance that you inherited no DNA from a particular ancestor. - See more at: http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/...from-and-why-it-matters/#sthash.Ncwahno4.dpuf
 
One of my relatives has a pretty thorough family tree of my dad's side of the family, which is neat. My moms side only has some stories that go back a few generations. I've always been interested in having one of these tests run on myself.

There's no real science behind this but in my opinion combining two strands of DNA from different races makes for a stronger human being. :)

In fact there is some validity to your statement. Integrating more genetic diversity is usually seen as a good thing as it can "weed out" or reduce your chances of genetic diseases. Populations with small gene pools are more prone to genetic disorders. For example, Jewish people have intermarried for thousands of years, and continue to do so. Jews also have a much higher rate of some diseases compared to non-Jews.

My question is according to a DNA test can siblings show different ethnetic variations, such as 20% European vs 22% European, both having the same parents? A friend seems to think this. Anyone know? I've not been able verify online.

I would imagine you would get different results depending on each sibling tested. I don't know much about genetic testing in the sense of ethnicity. I'm not sure how much the variability will change between siblings but intuitively in would expect it to.

You get 50% of you DNA from your mom, 50% from your dad. That means you didn't inherit the other 50% of your parents' DNA. Your siblings do not receive the same 50% from each parent you receive. Therefore it is possible, aka likely, a sibling would yield different results, or even test for an altogether different ethnic group that you did not. There's a lot of genetic overlap in dense places like European countries (versus say Asia or Africa) so I imagine how the results are interpreted can also affect what the numbers play out to.

In general, parents and children share 50% of their DNA. Siblings are usually said to share 50% with other siblings, though in practicality it can vary up to ~10% +/-.
 
One of my relatives has a pretty thorough family tree of my dad's side of the family, which is neat. My moms side only has some stories that go back a few generations. I've always been interested in having one of these tests run on myself.



In fact there is some validity to your statement. Integrating more genetic diversity is usually seen as a good thing as it can "weed out" or reduce your chances of genetic diseases. Populations with small gene pools are more prone to genetic disorders. For example, Jewish people have intermarried for thousands of years, and continue to do so. Jews also have a much higher rate of some diseases compared to non-Jews.

I would imagine you would get different results depending on each sibling tested. I don't know much about genetic testing in the sense of ethnicity. I'm not sure how much the variability will change between siblings but intuitively in would expect it to.

You get 50% of you DNA from your mom, 50% from your dad. That means you didn't inherit the other 50% of your parents' DNA. Your siblings do not receive the same 50% from each parent you receive. Therefore it is possible, aka likely, a sibling would yield different results, or even test for an altogether different ethnic group that you did not. There's a lot of genetic overlap in dense places like European countries (versus say Asia or Africa) so I imagine how the results are interpreted can also affect what the numbers play out to.

In general, parents and children share 50% of their DNA. Siblings are usually said to share 50% with other siblings, though in practicality it can vary up to ~10% +/-.

Regarding the first part of your post, don't we know for a fact that inbreeding results in defective organisms especially when applied to mammals, so basically diversity of genes is a requirement for health. I would not go so far to say that having parents of different ethninticty automatically makes you healthier, but that a threshold of diversity, whatever that threshold is, is a good thing.

For the second part, my references say based on getting only 50% of each parents DNA, (there's 50% you are not getting) that if you go far enough back, you may not, will not share any DNA with an ancestor, although you are a descendant! Of the 100% DNA a parent has, based on possible ethnic diversity, if the results of sibling DNA tests could show a significance variance in ethninticity?
 
Ancestry's DNA testing is very good. I wasn't sure until the Ancestry DNA circle started showing other people with shared ancestors pop up on my site.

Been using Ancestry for a long time with a very large Family Tree.

It's owned by the Mormon Church who actually do one thing very well.

Genealogy .
 
Regarding the first part of your post, don't we know for a fact that inbreeding results in defective organisms especially when applied to mammals, so basically diversity of genes is a requirement for health. I would not go so far to say that having parents of different ethninticty automatically makes you healthier, but that a threshold of diversity, whatever that threshold is, is a good thing.

For the second part, my references say based on getting only 50% of each parents DNA, (there's 50% you are not getting) that if you go far enough back, you may not, will not share any DNA with an ancestor, although you are a descendant! Of the 100% DNA a parent has, based on possible ethnic diversity, if the results of sibling DNA tests could show a significance variance in ethninticity?

Yes, you are correct in the sense that diversity is a good thing. Everyone has defective genes in their genome, but we all have two copies of each gene. Many times these errors are recessive so the good copy has us covered and we don't experience any issues. If you reproduce with say, a sibling, you're chances of inheriting 2 copies of the defective gene are much higher, which would cause a problem. If you have multiple generations of inbreeding, or similarly a very small gene pool (aka limited population to reproduce within), everyone's DNA starts looking similar in the sense the same dysfunctional genes are coming from both parents, rather than just one. I'm not sure how the odds changed between ethnicities, I think it's safe to assume your risk is probably reduced to some level in terms of receiving two recessive alleles of a defective gene. There are still other ways genetic diseases can crop up though.

I believe I remember hearing that same comment about losing your ancestors genes. Genetics are interesting stuff!
 
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DNA testing and ancestry databases/family trees are incredibly powerful. My wife transitioned from not knowing who her Grandfather was to knowing several 3rd cousins, and a slew of 4th cousins. However these families are are so large and extended, after a year she's still working on identifying a Grandfather name, but it's narrowed down to a single family and two individuals. Regardless, it's still much more info than she knew before the test.

One big caveat is that public family trees are riddled with errors and inaccuracies, however (as far as I know) DNA does not lie. DNA provides the link, the trees are up to interpretation.
 
My question is according to a DNA test can siblings show different ethnetic variations, such as 20% European vs 22% European, both having the same parents? A friend seems to think this. Anyone know? I've not been able verify online.

Some geneticists will talk about ethnicity, but this is really a cultural grouping rather than a genetic one. Typically we use language that describes people from different "populations." Now, the possible definitions of a population are manifold, but one definition we might assert is that a population consists of a group of individuals more likely to mate with each other than not. As you can imagine, this definition allows one to consider "populations" on a number of geographic scales; we can talk about populations of a continent all the way down to populations of a city, etc.

How can we predict which population someone's ancestors might be from on the basis of genetic information?

These days most of this work is done utilizing information on thousands to millions of single nucleotide variations. Humans have two copies of approximately 3,000,000,000 nucleotide pairs and one of the most common mutations to occur is the replacement of one nucleotide with another. So maybe at chr1 nucleotide position 200,000 30% of people have a T nucleotide and the other 70% have a G, and there are millions of such locations in the genome. By querying large numbers of individuals from various populations from around the world, we learn about the frequencies of these variants, which may differ substantially between populations.

Differences in variant frequencies across populations can be attributed to essentially three forces: mutation, selection, and drift. As modern humans spread around the globe, small groups of individuals would set out---taking a subset of genetic variation with them---and eventually settle and grow, then a new group of individuals would set out and the process repeats. As only a subset of genetic variation from the founding population travels out to found a new population, genetic diversity is reduced, and with limited gene flow between the new and founding populations mutation, selection, and drift can cause further differences in variant frequencies.

So, given some empirical knowledge of variant frequencies in a number of possible source populations, we can construct some simple likelihood calculations to infer the most likely source population of an individual's ancestors. At this point I feel compelled to point out that, even though we can do this with good accuracy, inter-individual variation exceeds inter-population variation, and the fact that we can exploit very minor differences in variant frequencies to infer source populations does not imply a genetic basis for the rather ugly social construct of race.

This is all well and good for people with ancestors from the same source population, but as you probably can imagine things are far more complex. Let's consider two individuals, one from population A and the other from B. I'm going to represent their genomes with a cartoon, using "-" to denote chromosome segments from population A and "+" from population B.

Parent 1's genome
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|----------|


Parent 2's genome
|++++++++++|
|++++++++++|


When two individuals from different populations mate, the offspring are called "admixed." In the first generation, since every child receives one copy of the genome from each parent, the first generation offspring will have a genome that looks like:

Admixed F1 genome
|++++++++++|
|----------|


If another round of mating occurs between these F1 individuals, the patterns start to get more complex due to recombination, and individual genomes are a mosaic of stretches of DNA that can be reliably identified as being from source population A or B. I.E.,

A possible admixed F2 genome
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|++--------|


After numerous generations of mating, you find a lot of variation in the mosaics.

Some possible admixed genomes
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|++----++++|

|----++++++|
|+----+++--|

|----+++--+|
|-----+++--|


So, if two admixed individuals have offspring, you can probably see now why siblings may show different proportions of certain population ancestries: for each parent the offspring receives a random chromosome which may have recombined as well.

Re inbreeding, I'll point out that inbreeding is a continuum (we're all inbred; we all share a common ancestor), and inbreeding itself does not cause disease. However, individuals with a very recent common ancestor may produce offspring at higher risk for some recessive genetic diseases, especially if there is a family history, as there is an increased chance that two copies of a risk variant is transmitted to the child. In the general population this risk variant may be very low frequency, and the chance of two random people having it is low. In the case of two individuals with a very recent common ancestor, each is likely to be carrying identical stretches of DNA inherited from that common ancestor, which may contain the risk variant.
 
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Some geneticists will talk about ethnicity, but this is really a cultural grouping rather than a genetic one. Typically we use language that describes people from different "populations." Now, the possible definitions of a population are manifold, but one definition we might assert is that a population consists of a group of individuals more likely to mate with each other than not. As you can imagine, this definition allows one to consider "populations" on a number of geographic scales; we can talk about populations of a continent all the way down to populations of a city, etc.

How can we predict which population someone's ancestors might be from on the basis of genetic information?

These days most of this work is done utilizing information on thousands to millions of single nucleotide variations. Humans have two copies of approximately 3,000,000,000 nucleotide pairs and one of the most common mutations to occur is the replacement of one nucleotide with another. So maybe at chr1 nucleotide position 200,000 30% of people have a T nucleotide and the other 70% have a G, and there are millions of such locations in the genome. By querying large numbers of individuals from various populations from around the world, we learn about the frequencies of these variants, which may differ substantially between populations.

Differences in variant frequencies across populations can be attributed to essentially three forces: mutation, selection, and drift. As modern humans spread around the globe, small groups of individuals would set out---taking a subset of genetic variation with them---and eventually settle and grow, then a new group of individuals would set out and the process repeats. As only a subset of genetic variation from the founding population travels out to found a new population, genetic diversity is reduced, and with limited gene flow between the new and founding populations mutation, selection, and drift can cause further differences in variant frequencies.

So, given some empirical knowledge of variant frequencies in a number of possible source populations, we can construct some simple likelihood calculations to infer the most likely source population of an individual's ancestors. At this point I feel compelled to point out that, even though we can do this with good accuracy, inter-individual variation exceeds inter-population variation, and the fact that we can exploit very minor differences in variant frequencies to infer source populations does not imply a genetic basis for the rather ugly social construct of race.

This is all well and good for people with ancestors from the same source population, but as you probably can imagine things are far more complex. Let's consider two individuals, one from population A and the other from B. I'm going to represent their genomes with a cartoon, using "-" to denote chromosome segments from population A and "+" from population B.

Parent 1's genome
|----------|
|----------|


Parent 2's genome
|++++++++++|
|++++++++++|


When two individuals from different populations mate, the offspring are called "admixed." In the first generation, since every child receives one copy of the genome from each parent, the first generation offspring will have a genome that looks like:

Admixed F1 genome
|++++++++++|
|----------|


If another round of mating occurs between these F1 individuals, the patterns start to get more complex due to recombination, and individual genomes are a mosaic of stretches of DNA that can be reliably identified as being from source population A or B. I.E.,

A possible admixed F2 genome
|----++++++|
|++--------|


After numerous generations of mating, you find a lot of variation in the mosaics.

Some possible admixed genomes
|+++++++++-|
|++--------|

|----+++---|
|++----++++|

|----++++++|
|+----+++--|

|----+++--+|
|-----+++--|


So, if two admixed individuals have offspring, you can probably see now why siblings may show different proportions of certain population ancestries: for each parent the offspring receives a random chromosome which may have recombined as well.

Re inbreeding, I'll point out that inbreeding is a continuum (we're all inbred; we all share a common ancestor), and inbreeding itself does not cause disease. However, individuals with a very recent common ancestor may produce offspring at higher risk for some recessive genetic diseases, especially if there is a family history, as there is an increased chance that two copies of a risk variant is transmitted to the child. In the general population this risk variant may be very low frequency, and the chance of two random people having it is low. In the case of two individuals with a very recent common ancestor, each is likely to be carrying identical stretches of DNA inherited from that common ancestor, which may contain the risk variant.

Wow, great info! I'll take some time to digest this, and maybe ask some questions. Thanks! :)
 
Sure thing. :)

Interesting info about the ancestral differences in siblings. You did answer my question about siblings! ;)

I assume that with 3B nucleotides, that there is no guarantee that a particular nucleotide is associated with a particular individual. So is it safe to say the identification process is because of similiar patterns that link ancestors and descendants and those patterns are unique enough to predict association with certainty?
 
Interesting info about the ancestral differences in siblings. You did answer my question about siblings! ;)

I assume that with 3B nucleotides, that there is no guarantee that a particular nucleotide is associated with a particular individual. So is it safe to say the identification process is because of similiar patterns that link ancestors and descendants and those patterns are unique enough to predict association with certainty?

That sounds essentially correct. We also gain a lot of information by realizing that from generation to generation large stretches of variants are inherited together---there is correlation among physically close variants because they're literally attached to each other. Only recombination events will decouple physically linked variants, and since, in humans, recombination occurs about as often as mutation, these patterns persist for quite a while before they are "erased." We can not only exploit this information to learn about the natural history of populations but also to infer the location of mutations that may have an effect on various phenotypes.
 
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My wife has been working on her family tree for the last 5 years., her goal was to ID her Grandfather on her Mom's side. Grandma, who was not married at the time, kept who the father was a secret for her entire life. My wife who has been diligent in this effort and discovered amazing things about her past (apparently she is related to all the Founding Fathers of the U.S.A), she thought she had narrowed it down to a single family of 3 siblings, but there were other families she was closely related with.

If you are not familiar, when you do a DNA test, you will get possibly a very long list of relationships based on other member's DNA tests, but after that you are reduced to looking at other people's family trees, that is if they are public or they give you permission to look at their trees. And then you have to figure out how accurate these trees are, and to acknowledge that there was a lot of the inappropriate relationships and parental heritage can be listed inaccurately to cover this up.

The amount of errors in trees and inaccessible info, plagued my wife's research and she did not think she'd ever identify her Grandfather. At Ancestry.com, there was a link to hire an expert. She discovered that this service was expensive. 20 hours of research at $100 per hour, no refunds, but she decided she wanted to pay this fee. Well, she got good news.

Apparently the experts at Ancestry.com have access to private trees and they have detailed info about DNA tests, among all of the people who had tests, that subscribers do not get. I have no idea how many of these investigations are going on at any particular time, as in how many people are willing to pay $2000 for an answer? Anyway in the period of about 2 moths, they came back with the answer. Her Grandfather was in one of the families she had looked at, but she did not have enough info to have identified him. Because of the DNA test results that these experts could look at, they determined that based on a first cousin's DNA test in comparison with my wife's Mom's DNA test, they were able to identify the Grandfather.

Yep, my wife is happy, but when I look at this, I consider it good info, but still historical trivia that does not play much of a role in our lives today, but I guess for some people it releases a mental burden. Now I say that as someone who has always had a complete family tree, but my wife reminds me there is always the possibility that when I subscribe to the service (eventually) I might get a surprise. You just never know, you can't rely on family trees to consistently tell the truth, and DNA does not lie. ;)
 
I was thinking of doing this but how do people know these tests are accurate? Could be a scam, could be bad science or bad lab conditions.
 
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