Do I need a VPN?

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  1. imanidiot Suspended

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    In light of the news coming out of Trumpville this week, I've been thinking about it. VPNSecure is selling lifetime subscriptions today only for $39 (courtesy Enganget).
     
  2. ApfelKuchen macrumors 68030

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    What does anyone really "need?" Some who use VPNs undoubtedly need the privacy, whether from the government or business competitors. For others, the payoff may not be practical, but emotional.

    Are emotional needs any less important than "practical" needs? One may as well argue the value of spending money on anything but the bare necessities for survival.
     
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    I have Tunnel Bear. Every time I'd shop car's, or anything in Amazon, the ads for them would appear on FaceBook,Mac Rumors, CNN,NY TIMES, etc. Since Tunnel Bear, they are gone. I have 5 VPN'S ,one each on my MAC/iPAD,iPhone, 1 on my wife's iPAD, and 1 in reserve for my new 12.9 " iPAD PRO when released. MY ISP can't sell my Browsing data to anyone, cus they can't see it ,EVER!!
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  4. imanidiot, Mar 31, 2017
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    Yes, well I suppose I phrased it badly. Perhaps not "need" but rather is it recommended, since the web is about to get a good deal less "private". And I can hear you responding "recommended by whom?". And so on. I get it.
     
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    The changes only allow your ISP to scoop up and sell your data. That does not mean they will. I just read this morning Comcast, for example, has come out and said they will not be doing this. So my plan is to wait and see what my ISP does, then decide.
     
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    Thank you for this. My provider is Comcast, and that is encouraging to hear.
     
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    In my opinion, Comcast's statement should be taken with skepticism. On the surface, the statement appears to be for customer privacy when in fact it isn't. Comcast logs every single thing you do. I don't think it wise to allow an ISP such unfettered access. Furthermore, Comcast said they won't sell an in individual's browsing information. That leaves the door wide open for Comcast to trade / make available such information to those it does business with (direct or otherwise).

    As to a VPN, I think everyone should use one, whether it be for the desktop, laptop or mobile phones and tablets. Protect yourselves.
     
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    What's to stop the VPN from selling your data? I am in no way a VPN expert (more like a neophyte), but some VPN companies are more serious about privacy then others. Just because you get a VPN doesn't mean they won't use your data for $$
     
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    VPN Unlimited (SlackSocial Deal $39 for lifetime subscription).
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    Good point, Mike.

    While none of us can be assured 100% all the time with a VPN service, the only thing we can do, is research each company as best we can.
     
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    This is a very good argument.
    I can't believe I didn't think about it before.
     
  14. MacBH928 macrumors 68020

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    I wouldn't trust a company with my data that will charge 13 cups of starbucks coffee for a lifetime VPN service. I use TunnelBear(based in Canada) they seem very legit most others are shoddy. They have 147K followers on Twitter. They respond quickly. They offer free 500MB/month so try them out. The downside they will not let you use torrent if you use that.

    but most people seem to be using PIA(private internet access) not sure why, but those will allow anything. Your choice
     
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    Good point.
     
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    How is that a good point? A company should not be dismissed solely because they had a sale. To say otherwise is logical fallacy thinking.
     
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    How is that a good point? A company should not be dismissed solely because they had a sale. To say otherwise is logical fallacy thinking.[/QUOTE]
    Someone is certainly cranky this morning.
     
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    Not cranky at all. I merely pointed out that the point you thought was good, was actually very bad thinking.
     
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    Not going to pursue this. Have a good day.
     
  20. ApfelKuchen macrumors 68030

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    Let's just say it's a warning sign, a reason to look more closely. "If it seems too good to be true..."

    Certainly, a deep discount can generate a fair amount of buzz, so if it's of limited duration and repeats infrequently, it can be a sustainable business strategy. If it's a routine practice, one then has to ask, "How do they do this and operate a profitable business? What are their alternate revenue streams? Are they able to sell additional, higher-value services to that subscriber base? The only "alternate" stream I saw at their web site is corporate VPN. If this deal ropes in a fair number of corporate clients, it may have done its job.

    They may also be depending upon a high percentage of subscribers to make minimal use of the service, in the style of low-priced gym membership offers. $39 could be more than their average subscriber pays before moving on. The light users/dropouts can more than make up for the heavy users. Still, most of those gym membership deals have a limited duration.

    Note that the Engadget deal is sponsored content, with a "no editorial endorsement" disclaimer.
     
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    Which is what I meant, but that is, apparently "very bad thinking". I stand corrected.
     
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    Private Internet Access don't log your traffic, and have a well respected former founder of the first pirate party as their head of privacy, rick falkvinge. They also accept bitcoin for payments, and have unlimited traffic.
     
  23. MacBH928 macrumors 68020

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    Do you really believe someone will offer you any service for $40 for your whole life? Even for 1 year that considered cheaper. For example, Netflix charges $120/yr.
     
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    One happy "Witopia VPN" customer for the last five(5) years.
     
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    Proxpn used to be recommended by Steve Gibson at Security Now and there was a lifetime discount of 10% or 20% (can't remember). Maybe offer still stands. It would be the one I would use if I ever did.
     

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