Do i need more ram?

[David-fr]

Based on this screen shot, do i need more ram?

Is there a way to save ram? I don't want to upgrade but today i used it as a normal work day machine and it lagged A LOT!

Also, is it bad if i keep the fans running at 6K RPMs all the time it is plugged in? I like to keep it cool

Thanks,
David

 

[GGJstudios]

Based on this screen shot, do i need more ram?

Based on your swap used, yes, you could probably benefit from more RAM if that's normal use for you.

Is there a way to save ram? I don't want to upgrade but today i used it as a normal work day machine and it lagged A LOT!

Run fewer simultaneous apps, less Flash on websites, less multimedia, etc.

Also, is it bad if i keep the fans running at 6K RPMs all the time it is plugged in?

Your fans are designed to "idle" at around 2000 rpm and spin faster only when temps are sustained at higher levels. Your MBP knows how to keep itself at safe temperatures, without you intervening. If your temps get too high, (105C for the CPU and 100C for the GPU), your Mac may shut down, to prevent damage. This is working as designed.

 

[David-fr]

Based on your swap used, yes, you could probably benefit from more RAM if that's normal use for you.

Run fewer simultaneous apps, less Flash on websites, less multimedia, etc.

Your fans are designed to "idle" at around 2000 rpm and spin faster only when temps are sustained at higher levels. Your MBP knows how to keep itself at safe temperatures, without you intervening. If your temps get too high, (105C for the CPU and 100C for the GPU), your Mac may shut down, to prevent damage. This is working as designed.

Then i guess i'll have to spend some on memory, i work with Flash based browser games.

Say if i get 3rd party ram would apple care cover any issues that may have been caused by it or related to it?

My MPB currently has samsumg stickts

 

[GGJstudios]

Say if i get 3rd party ram would apple care cover any issues that may have been caused by it or related to it?

Apple doesn't make RAM, so all RAM, including that which comes with your Mac, is technically 3rd party. If you install faulty RAM and it causes problems, Apple doesn't cover that, but the RAM manufacturer should. Apple's warranty doesn't cover any 3rd party components that you add, but adding RAM or a hard drive doesn't void warranty coverage on the rest of your Mac.

Apple Warranty: Installing Memory, Expansion Cards, User Installable Parts Does Not Void Warranty

 

[David-fr]

Apple doesn't make RAM, so all RAM, including that which comes with your Mac, is technically 3rd party. If you install faulty RAM and it causes problems, Apple doesn't cover that, but the RAM manufacturer should. Apple's warranty doesn't cover any 3rd party components that you add, but adding RAM or a hard drive doesn't void warranty coverage on the rest of your Mac.

Apple Warranty: Installing Memory, Expansion Cards, User Installable Parts Does Not Void Warranty

Kewl, thank you much.

I am surprised how on my windows desktop (quad core 2 duo) with 3gb ram i can do everything and on my MPB i need more ram

For personal use MPB is fine but for work it laggs

 

[kushed]

Kewl, thank you much.

I am surprised how on my windows desktop (quad core 2 duo) with 3gb ram i can do everything and on my MPB i need more ram

For personal use MPB is fine but for work it laggs

That sounds 1000% normal

 

[almac68]

Apple doesn't make RAM, so all RAM, including that which comes with your Mac, is technically 3rd party. If you install faulty RAM and it causes problems, Apple doesn't cover that, but the RAM manufacturer should. Apple's warranty doesn't cover any 3rd party components that you add, but adding RAM or a hard drive doesn't void warranty coverage on the rest of your Mac.

Apple Warranty: Installing Memory, Expansion Cards, User Installable Parts Does Not Void Warranty

So does this mean I can install an SSD and add more rams on my 1 week old MBP without voiding the warranty (provided of course the installation procedure did not damage the mac in any way)?

Cool! Didn't know that as I was even thinking about upgrading stuffs on my MBP after the warranty has expired.

 

[OneMike]

So does this mean I can install an SSD and add more rams on my 1 week old MBP without voiding the warranty (provided of course the installation procedure did not damage the mac in any way)?

Cool! Didn't know that as I was even thinking about upgrading stuffs on my MBP after the warranty has expired.

Hard Drive and RAM are user serviceable parts, so yes you can change those at any time without warranty issues.

 

[diamond.g]

Based on this screen shot, do i need more ram?

Based on your swap used, yes, you could probably benefit from more RAM if that's normal use for you.

I agree with GGJstudios. Whatever you applications you have used or are using take up large amounts of RAM. Which is causing you to swap. The only odd thing is your Page Outs is fairly low (in comparison to your Page Ins) so it is possible that you could be fine with the amount of RAM you have now if you could pinpoint what caused your swap file to grow.

 

[almac68]

Hard Drive and RAM are user serviceable parts, so yes you can change those at any time without warranty issues.

Thanks. The warranty notes will come in handy in case my local apple center says otherwise.

OP: Sorry if I happened to hijack your thread.

 

[David-fr]

I agree with GGJstudios. Whatever you applications you have used or are using take up large amounts of RAM. Which is causing you to swap. The only odd thing is your Page Outs is fairly low (in comparison to your Page Ins) so it is possible that you could be fine with the amount of RAM you have now if you could pinpoint what caused your swap file to grow.

Windows virtual machine perhaps?

 

[1quick1]

Too bad you missed the sale from Newegg a few weeks ago. 8gb for $65 shipped. They still have it for about $83. It's G.Skill 2 x 4gb 1333mhz RAM. Good stuff.

 

[Bootsie]

Too bad you missed the sale from Newegg a few weeks ago. 8gb for $65 shipped. They still have it for about $83. It's G.Skill 2 x 4gb 1333mhz RAM. Good stuff.

I think they have it today for $73 shipped... isn't this the stuff?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...C-032411-Index-_-LaptopMemory-_-20231342-L02C

and you use the code for $10 off...

 

[diamond.g]

Windows virtual machine perhaps?

Yeah, that would be a large factor

 

[svenwillmann]

Honestly, I am leaning towards the other way, maybe I didn’t need all that RAM.

I don’t do graphics but I use my air heavily, every day with lots of different apps open. No video, gaming or the like but lots of processing intensive tasks eg. compile, app server, dev. and the like.

My air feels so much snappier than my prev. mbp and I think you have to look into what it is that really slows you down. In my experience it is almost impossible that it is the amount of apps etc. I reckon it is one or two specific ones (you should see my list of apps that are always running simultaneously).

Attached my screen shot.

 

[daneoni]

Kewl, thank you much.

I am surprised how on my windows desktop (quad core 2 duo) with 3gb ram i can do everything and on my MPB i need more ram

For personal use MPB is fine but for work it laggs

OS X uses a lot of RAM because it caches stuff A LOT. You must also remember that you're have an integrated card installed which uses up to 512MB of your main system RAM as its VRAM. Yes you need more RAM but it doesn't matter...RAM is cheap right now. Get as much as your money can buy.

 

[NikFinn]

Honestly, I am leaning towards the other way, maybe I didn’t need all that RAM.

I don’t do graphics but I use my air heavily, every day with lots of different apps open. No video, gaming or the like but lots of processing intensive tasks eg. compile, app server, dev. and the like.

My air feels so much snappier than my prev. mbp and I think you have to look into what it is that really slows you down. In my experience it is almost impossible that it is the amount of apps etc. I reckon it is one or two specific ones (you should see my list of apps that are always running simultaneously).

Attached my screen shot.

How do you survive?! I have the opposite problem.

 

[svenwillmann]

Don't know, never paid much attention to it, just works! It works with my iMacs, minis, notebooks and incredibly well with my air. The air is one of the fastest machine for my kind of tasks I ever laid my hands on.

 

[adnoh]

Yes you need to upgrade. Buy a 4th chip and replace one 2gb chip and see how you get on

 

[al2o3cr]

Kewl, thank you much.

I am surprised how on my windows desktop (quad core 2 duo) with 3gb ram i can do everything and on my MPB i need more ram

For personal use MPB is fine but for work it laggs

Given that work apparently involves Flash, that's not really a shock - Flash on OS X is a memory and CPU hog...

 

[David-fr]

Given that work apparently involves Flash, that's not really a shock - Flash on OS X is a memory and CPU hog...

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yeah plus that i need to run Windows side by side

 

[David-fr]

I added 8Gb ram for 90$.

I put 2GB in Windows and 6Gb in mac os.. THis should be enough, i haven't fully tested but i think this should suffice me.

 

[euphoria47]

I never took the time to understand all of these figures in Activity Monitor, but since we are all showing off:

Looks to me that I may need more ram too? So Page in/out and Swap is an indicator that memory is borrowing hard disk space?

I should go from 4 to 8GB? I do a lot of encoding, some gaming, lots of intensive stuff, but maybe ill restart, and see what my baseline is without handbrake or SC2

 

[GGJstudios]

Looks to me that I may need more ram too?

If that's normal use for you, probably.

So Page in/out and Swap is an indicator that memory is borrowing hard disk space?

Not page ins, but page outs and swap used, yes.

 

[bubbacaster]

If your Swap Used is regularly > 0, I'd start thinking seriously about getting more RAM. But if you rarely swap or page out then you probably don't need it.