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I typically use Apple Maps for navigation first, then Google Maps.

The reason?

It's so much faster. Google Maps tends to be a bit of a dog when navigating around the app for some reason. And this is on an iPhone 5, not really positively ancient yet.

I wish google could optimize their code more. The fact that Android requires such high spec hardware to gain acceptable performance in general shows they're not that good at it.
 
They can't just improve maps "overnight" it takes years to collect the data. You can't just sit at 1 Infinity Loop and write code to improve it. You have to have a fleet of cars and companies for hire mapping the world.

IMO, Apple made a mistake by switching away from Google. Or they should've switched to OpenStreetMap.
 
For me, apple maps still blows.

  1. It doesn't show the name of the street you're turning onto big enough, just the arrow and distance. The name is too small. Google maps shows the name prominently
  2. No public transport directions
  3. No option to avoid toll roads
 
Honestly, Maps is fine. When I switched to the Nexus 5, I expected this huge improvement when navigating. Honestly, it just wasn't there for me. Don't get me wrong, Google Maps are better, but it's not as one sided as it once was.
 
I have never had any problems with apple maps. I live in northern VA, and I went to school at VA Tech. I mostly traveled around those areas within the past few years. Where do you live? Outside of the US?
 
In Southern California here and Apple Maps work fine. Not a single problem after the first couple months. Everything I have reported as being wrong has been fixed within a couple weeks.

The Apple Maps has never taken me to the wrong place, not even once. Google Maps, I lost count how many times it has taken me on a wild goose chase. Everyones experience will be different though - it all depends on the data that has mostly been crowd sourced (for nearly all modern mapping apps).
 
IMO, Apple made a mistake by switching away from Google. Or they should've switched to OpenStreetMap.

If Apple didn't drop Google, the built in maps would not have gotten turn by turn and Google would not have been able to release a dedicated app. By making their own app they reduced their dependence on a third party and opened the environment for high quality free alternatives. It's a win win I'd say.
 
Even with iOS 8 my experience with Apple Maps is not good. I think, that it is still nearly useless in Europe, especially Germany. So many flaws here: messed up search results, missing routes/towns, POI aren't up to date or have weird names, no public transport, no bicycle routes. Google Maps does a better job.
 
Must depend a lot on where you are using it. I have never been misrouted on the East Coast of the US--so for me, I will continue to rely on Apple Maps as long as it gets me to where I want to go.
 
Personally, all of the smartphone app maps apps don't get it right. I've worked with GIS and survey departments for over 20 years, and parsing their data is a challenge I've hated more than anything. I don't envy any of the maps app makers, not one bit. For every rabid fan of one platform, I can point out flaws/holes/errors very quickly.

FWIW, Apple Maps is improving very quickly. I'm looking forward to seeing and using their new platform. And, FWIW, I've been surprised to see Apple updating their POI database fairly rapidly. I've submitted POI changes to Mapquest/OpenMaps, TomTom/Teleatlas, MS/Here, and Apple - Apple is the only entity that has effected changes, albeit recently.

Please understand, if you will, that my experience covers only WA/OR/ID/MT in the US and BC/AB in Canada - but I've built roadways, bridges, and parks and I have friends who own businesses in those states and provinces. It surprises me how out of date Mapquest is, how many errors Google Maps has since they've *supposedly* driven almost every mile of roadway on this planet, and how EU-centric TomTom is (especially having owned a GO 910 - a very expensive brick now).

To Apple, I made changes to a friend's hair salon, added a friend's B&B, and moved a restaurant and postal office on Apple Maps via their "Report an error" option - and within a few days the revisions and addition were effected. To Google, a pub that closed down 7 years ago near my office is still there - in the middle of a road, where it's always been on their map. So, there - if you can find it!
Do you know how it works when highways have exits added or a town changes a two way street to a one way street or any other change to a roadway? Is anybody responsible for getting that new information to the GPS companies? Thanks for any insight you have.
 
iOS 8 has improved maps in only one meaningful way: reporting problems. The process seems like it will allow them to make fixes quicker.
 
What I dislike about Google Maps and Waze is that they don't give you voice navigational instructions ahead of time. For instance, if I merge onto a highway, Apple Maps will then say, 4 miles until you take your next exit. Neither Google or Waze does this, they will tell me anywhere from a mile to half a mile where my next navigational direction will be. It always causes me to look at my phone after I make an initial turn onto a different street to see how long I'm going to be on it. Maps has voice navigation done right.

Though I still use Waze, because I don't trust the POI or information on Apple Maps.
 
I wouldn't say it sucks, but there are still some weird omissions - one that really surprised me the other day was 190 St subway station in NYC (near The Cloisters). It's not there according to Apple Maps!
 
I searched for "food".
 

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My perspective as a Chinese resident:

The good: Apple Maps are far better than other Western offerings.

Bing is terrible with nearly no details on many places outside the big cities. Google Maps need a VPN (or Android to get offline maps). By comparison, Apple Maps are highly detailed and navigation was rid great. They also seem to cache for offline use really well without any specific commands.

The bad: No more dual-language in iOS 8.

In iOS 7, Apple Maps had dual language so we're great if I needed to find a place but didn't know the Chinese name. I could find it in English then show it to someone (a taxi driver) who would also see the Chinese text. Another scenario is checking where I am against street signs.

Now in iOS 8 the settings have the option to display the maps in English (or not). So, it's either local OR English rather than both at the same time.
 
Apple Maps is only good if you stay in New York. For rest of the world, use Google Maps. Not even a contest there.

That is a scatalogically bovine comment. When I lived in RURAL Minnesota, Google Maps located my home 1 mile west of where I actually lived. Service and delivery people were always calling because Google Maps always took them 1 mile west. Apple Maps has never had it wrong.
 
Do you know how it works when highways have exits added or a town changes a two way street to a one way street or any other change to a roadway? Is anybody responsible for getting that new information to the GPS companies? Thanks for any insight you have.
Honestly, I used to "in the good old days", but with the smartphone designers driving (pun intended) the business model, how data gets from the ground to your mapping app seems to be more efficient now than it ever was. But, with caveats...
First, a short story, US-based. My first engineering job was with Tri-Met, serving the Portland tri-county area, and my first office was a block away from the "Metro" office - part of Metro's function was/is to collect, process, and resell GIS data. Metro serves as a collector, overseeing entity, and dispenser of data - which you could "rent" per quarter on DVDs (now, a quarterly subscription). You could get roadway, aerial, crime, population data - or all of it, for a fee. Within Metro, there are counties, cities, townships that collect data - generally through a county surveyor's office, to which final data is submitted by registered engineers & surveyors. Then, there's agency maintenance to be performed by agency or agency-hired consultants - and changes are documented, which are also submitted to the county surveyor's office. There's often communication between a county surveyor's office and an entity like Metro, but often the county surveyor's office is the final stop for data. State and Federal highways/freeways/tollways are the purview and responsibility of a state's DOT (department of transportation) - of which I have worked on as well.

So, all of that is a short list of "owners". Each structure - a bridge, roadway, highway, interstate highway, intersection, signal, sidewalk, pathway, railroad, retaining wall - "belongs" to some agency or entity, responsible for its maintenance and liability. Yes, there's more to it than this so far. I've set more brass tacks and survey stakes and checked more earthwork cut sheets and material spec sheets than I care to admit...

A company like Apple creates a product - Maps. Maps sells iPhones. You and I own an iPhone. There's your cash pile. Apple, in turn, pays TomTom, who owns Teleatlas, who buys data from Metro - that's where your data comes from. It's Apple's job to "skin" the data and/or buy what they need to keep its iPhone users happy (for a skin example see http://snazzymaps.com/tag/light).

Then there's Google, which bought data from companies like Teleatlas and Navteq. Apple is likely finding out now what Google did a few years ago - Teleatlas and Navteq had a stranglehold on the mapping data business and were charging huge amounts of money for data that wasn't getting updated very often. Keep in mind that "stuff" that's wrong on your iPhone Maps app likely has been wrong for years, before there even was an iPhone or Galaxy handset. There may have been additional conditions place upon Apple and/or Google - much of this data exchange would have been one-way - "we lease you data, you give us money", or something like that. So, Google hired a bunch of drivers.

The failure of errors is that an error can take months to be "certified" and fed up the system. I believe - literally - that Google tired of the cronyism of the old mapping system, and now Apple is finding out the same thing that Google did a few years ago - it's hard to map something out accurately, and much harder to maintain that map.

And, there's no responsibility by agencies as you're citing it to Apple or Google. An agency's responsibility is to their facilities and their users - that's pretty much it. An entity that collects and repackages data, like Metro - has a dedicated web page and staff member to contact and process sales of their data. Metro makes periodic updates - but keep in mind that some of the subsets of data do not get updated on that cycle - they may add changes to or new roadways, but they haven't updated their aerial data since 2011 because developers haven't made any recent flyovers of note AFAIK.

And, AFAIK, it would be Apple's responsibility to pick up the phone, call a DOT and ask if there's any changes to a roadway. Most DOTs are laying off staff since there hasn't been a Federal transportation bill passed in some time, so I can offer that there isn't a person that answers to Apple/MS/Google! So, Apple/Google/MS partner with a traffic reporting entity like Sigalert or INRIX to report closures/accidents/maintenance issues - and Sigalert/INRIX DO work with DOTs and roadway owners for these issues. AFAIK, both Google and Apple rely on Sigalert - I see exactly the same exact reporting errors on Google Maps and Apple Maps, and, of course, Google adds some of Waze data to their mapping.

County departments have also been cut back. A subdivision gets built, and so many are platted around September/October before the rainy season starts. The survey department processes the data in house, and a CAD tech gets to digitizing the data weeks later, reviewed and certified by the county weeks after that. It might be weeks to months later before that data is available for sale. And, navigation manufacturers often make their "updates" available in October of each year - so, guess what? - like every year for as long as I can recall it's often last year's subdivision or roadway changes that makes it into your car's nav system. It's this kind of data collecting/publishing cycle that drives end users nuts. But Teleatlas didn't care for years - as a EU-based company, where roads and properties don't change like they do in NA, it's not such a big deal for non-NA customers.

I used to use a TomTom GO 910 - which also had a traffic reporting service based on Teleatlas data before TomTom wrote that check to buy them. My Benz GL450 and Forester XT both use Teleatlas in their navigation systems - and, they all showed so many errors I just gave up. Here in OR/WA/ID so many "roads" are actually gated logging roads that are closed to the public. I'd bet that my really old 910 would still work very well in Austria or France.

Apple and Google have adapted by hiring their own staffs, creating their own reporting system, and skinning data so that it works for most of us end users. The next challenge for them is get their parsing and POI engines cleaned up (I'm not going there today).
 
Apple and Google have adapted by hiring their own staffs, creating their own reporting system, and skinning data so that it works for most of us end users. The next challenge for them is get their parsing and POI engines cleaned up (I'm not going there today).

Thank you for all the info. We were just talking about this the other day at work. :)
 
Yes it does. So far Apple maps has gotten me to the right places however, my definition of suck is a little different than everyone else's. The inability to suggest alternate routes using options such as "Avoid Highways" or "Toll routes" makes it an inferior product. I can almost rely on Google Maps blindly as it has NEVER failed me. Not once.

This is easily my biggest issue with Apple Maps. For actual directions it has gotten better, but why can't I set my route options the way I want to get there? I don't mind if it adds tolls or highways by default, but at least give me a toggle so that days I don't want those I can enable them. For this reason I keep Google Maps around.
 
i'm not talking to the apple apologists who think apple can do no wrong. i am talking to objective people who know apple blew it with their maps app when they launched it a few years ago "it's in beta guys, you can't expect it to be great" (well, actually i can since i was using the great google maps for years before it)...

so now it has been several years and i have seen zero... i repeat ZERO improvement in the roads and POIs in my city through iOS 7. is it safe to say iOS 8 will also not have rejuvenated maps? and i don't mean a few bells and whistles... i am talking about straight up incorrect map data.

It depends on what you use it for. The road navigation has gotten better. It still has a LONG way to go in terms of point of interests. Do not use it to find a new-local restaurant or anything.
 
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