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Should OSX be available for all PC's not just macs?

  • Yes! Let me revive that old PIII!

    Votes: 6 5.7%
  • Maybe, Apple's hardware is pretty sweet though.

    Votes: 9 8.6%
  • Not really, It would cripple apple with all the driver issues

    Votes: 30 28.6%
  • Absolutely not, OSX belongs on a mac, nothing else.

    Votes: 76 72.4%

  • Total voters
    105
  • Poll closed .
How do I get my DLINK wireless netword card to work on linux without pulling out my hair. And NO, "Buy a new wireless card", doesn't count.

The answer is easy. Buy a supported network card. Check FIRST then buy. In that oerser. As you have found out buy first then check can lead to problems.

The problem is not with Linux it is with Dlink. If they refuse to publish specs for their hardware how can they expect people to write drivers? The other problem with dlink is that that will many time change out the "guts" of a product without changing the model number. You just have to some how know based on a serial number what is actually inside the dlink product.

Actually those cards are so cheap now. You can buy a supported card for under $20. Just go get one.
 
This is only opinion - as everything else here - but...
glennyboiwpg said:
This will never happen... and you should be thankful.
Why should I be thankful? For a world with less worms and viruses? With less hassles because of all the Windows boxes and botnets eating bandwidth? Because of all the spam that's generated today by compromised Windows boxes? How should I be thankful if that doesn't disappear?
glennyboiwpg said:
Because if they offered OS X to run on any pc, you could kiss the flawless experence goodbye.
No you couldn't. Maybe it wouldn't be flawless on non-Apple hardware, but people who already see your Apple box and OS X will understand the difference. Running a Mac mini with an old PC monitor is not the same thing as running a Mac Pro with a 100" Cinema Display. It doesn't look as good - and yet it still makes its dent in the market.
glennyboiwpg said:
Because right now Apple programmers know EXACTLY what hardware to code their OS to run on. They don't have to worry about 3rd-party drivers, or 3rd-party support for their OS.
Those drivers can come successively - from companies that want to support OS X. Michael Dell says he wants to. I believe HP also expressed such a desire. And I know for a fact IBM have been running OS X internally on their own boxes for some time. Apple don't have to write all these drivers anyway - Dell and HP and IBM can - and will - do that.

Besides, application programmers never go down to driver level anyway. That's the whole idea of having an "operating system". So that part is a non-issue.
glennyboiwpg said:
YOu want to see what OSX would be like if it ran on a PC? Install linux.
But that's not your problem - that's their problem. And by that point they've already spent $129. And only $129 because they wanted to play it cheap. Like the Linux people. And then they see what they get. But an OS X user on a PC is better than a Windows user on a PC, and OS X on a PC is better than Windows on a PC, and you can't get around that. Never. No way.
glennyboiwpg said:
Linux... great OS and i've installed it on my machine many times... i've used different distros but the experence is the same... any hardward other then basic configs is a nightmare to get working.

Do you want to spend 3 weeks trying to get your OSX installation to reconize your wireless network card? I don't.
You wouldn't have to. If Dell, HP, IBM, and others marketed OS X on their hardware then "DOH" - they'd see it worked. Period. As fancy and as trendy as Apple hardware? Not likely. More like lackluster hardware. But it would still be OS X and it would still work. And then next time those users want to upgrade their hardware, do you want to guess what computer they choose? You get one guess.
 
This will never happen... and you should be thankful. Because if they offered OS X to run on any pc, you could kiss the flawless experence goodbye.

why?

Because right now Apple programmers know EXACTLY what hardware to code their OS to run on. They don't have to worry about 3rd-party drivers, or 3rd-party support for their OS.

YOu want to see what OSX would be like if it ran on a PC? Install linux.

Linux... great OS and i've installed it on my machine many times... i've used different distros but the experence is the same... any hardward other then basic configs is a nightmare to get working.

Do you want to spend 3 weeks trying to get your OSX installation to reconize your wireless network card? I don't.

just my two cents.

PS, If have offended any linux dudes out there answer me this, How do I get my DLINK wireless netword card to work on linux without pulling out my hair. And NO, "Buy a new wireless card", doesn't count.

Nicely said, and I 100% agree, and it would be a huge turn of events for Apple, and Steve Jobs really to pound the hardware and software co-existing instead of being mashed together by separate companies to suddenly do the opposite.
 
It would be scary to see OSX running on PC's (not like I haven't see one before of course).

It could break Apple and ruin their reputation of having a solid OS.

If you want OSX so bad, just get a damn Mac and enjoy it trouble-free 99 percent of the time.

I'm really nervous about WWDC, with Steve saying "Leopard is worth the wait". I really hope it has nothing to do with Leopard running on PC's.

We'll have to wait and see what WWDC brings us with a Full-featured Leopard beta.
 
Maybe I'm just imagining it but Apple seems to be picking up quite a bit of speed lately. I personally just dropped my PC in favor of a Mac Pro. For this past Christmas I bought my mother a Macbook, which she loves to death. I hope Apple's hardware continues to improve in the coming months and I hope OSX stays bound to it and only it.

You make some great points including the one above- why would they change what they are doing- things are great- more software than ever, better innovation across the board than every (software and hardware), making more money than ever, selling more macs than ever, selling more macs than ever to PC users, etc.

Apple provides a great experience all the way around. why would they put their software product on inferior hardware- then the positive user experience declines. I am not saying apple couldn't do better than windows, but they would most likely be downgrading the whole OSX experience greatly!!! By the OSX experience I mean not only the software running, but the hardware it takes to run that software.

Remember- there are two(at least) main reasons people hate PC's They run windows and most of them people buy have crappy pieces of hardware in the box. Therefore people have machines that are unreliable, unproductive, and unappealing. Those few happy PC owners are usually the ones that not only like tinkering and making computer troubleshooting a hobby, but buy top of the line hardware too.

Remember, people are switching at record numbers. As just reported last month yet again, 50% of Apple Store's customers are new to the Mac- that is an incredible statistic!!! If there was any other industry seeing those types of numbers it would be seen as phenominal to say the least! If I ran a car dealer and 50% of my record number of customers usually shopped at the competition then I would be very happy!!

Keep up what you are doing Apple- don't change a thing...except keep pushing the limits of our creativity....keep making great products that are outside the box (PC enclosure box that is!)
 
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