iPad Do we think the iPad 12th gen will release soon?

[snipr125]

Entry level $599 iPhone 17e already has more power than MacBook Neo if you want to think that way. Unless all products are refreshed the same day, there will always be a performance gap.

Most importantly is the fact consumers don’t choose $349 iPad over MacBook Neo or vice versa simply because it has a certain chip. Rather, people ask if the iPad can do want they want or if Neo is better.

The iPad Air M4 is also significantly more powerful than the Neo at the same price point, to further back up your point.

 

[*~Kim~*]

Entry level $599 iPhone 17e already has more power than MacBook Neo if you want to think that way. Unless all products are refreshed the same day, there will always be a performance gap.

Most importantly is the fact consumers don’t choose $349 iPad over MacBook Neo or vice versa simply because it has a certain chip. Rather, people ask if the iPad can do want they want or if Neo is better.

An iPhone 17e won’t be competing with a Macbook though, whereas an iPad might be (as people weigh up the iPad + keyboard cost and the merits of each option if they can only afford one device.)

There is always a performance gap but I feel Apple manages it with the tiers it offers; the Neo looks better value for money for as long as the base iPad only has 6GB - as does the 8GB iPad mini - which is probably why the 12th Gen is yet to launch. The Mini often goes years without an update, but the base iPad is not allowed to catch up to its processor generation before it gets an update, as Apple position it closer to the Air with the laminated display, true tone and more advanced pencil. Granted the base tier isn’t as clear with Neo and iPad, but regular buyers know what Air and Pro mean by now.

The 8GB RAM is going to become an issue for Mac OS before iPad OS surely, so I can’t see this 1st Gen having a long lifecycle. New products seem to have a habit of being deliberately handicapped, leading to an incentive to wait for what it should have been. Or you pay the premium; OLED iPad Pro M4 only came with 8GB RAM unless it was a 1TB or 2TB version, now 12GB base.

 

[*~Kim~*]

Students are probably grappling with Neo vs base iPad, because the pencil has obvious benefits in their use case. That the Air is the same price as the Neo probably means the Air is dismissed unless using a third party keyboard.

An iPad Air is a mid tier product so it is not a surprise that it is more powerful than an entry level Macbook now that one exists.

 

[JPack]

An iPhone 17e won’t be competing with a Macbook though, whereas an iPad might be (as people weigh up the iPad + keyboard cost and the merits of each option if they can only afford one device.)

There is always a performance gap but I feel Apple manages it with the tiers it offers; the Neo looks better value for money for as long as the base iPad only has 6GB - as does the 8GB iPad mini - which is probably why the 12th Gen is yet to launch. The Mini often goes years without an update, but the base iPad is not allowed to catch up to its processor generation before it gets an update, as Apple position it closer to the Air with the laminated display, true tone and more advanced pencil. Granted the base tier isn’t as clear with Neo and iPad, but regular buyers know what Air and Pro mean by now.

The 8GB RAM is going to become an issue for Mac OS before iPad OS surely, so I can’t see this 1st Gen having a long lifecycle. New products seem to have a habit of being deliberately handicapped, leading to an incentive to wait for what it should have been. Or you pay the premium; OLED iPad Pro M4 only came with 8GB RAM unless it was a 1TB or 2TB version, now 12GB base.

There's no comparable product in the iPad family unless you start considering 13-inch iPad Air.

• MacBook Neo is 13-inch
• iPad is 11-inch

This is a deliberate choice by Apple not to introduce a low-cost 13-inch iPad. The whole of point of Neo is that iPad was not a productivity device and people went to Windows or ChromeOS in the $400-$700 band. Apple recognized this, hence the Neo. Even if you tried to configure an iPad (256GB) with Magic Keyboard Folio, it's $698.

 

[Homme]

iPad 10th gen - A14
iPad 11th gen - A16
iPad 12th gen - ?

If they put A17 or A18 on there, then it's feasible.

Mind, the current gen iPad mini has the A17 Pro so if they're putting something newer on the base iPad, it might be released around the same time as the new iPad mini.

12th gen iPad will never get a Pro branding chip. Base iPad lineup will probably never get a Pro Branding Chip, that is reserved for the Mini Lineup

Yes I believe they will unveil 12th gen iPad alongside the Mini and maybe the iPad Pro

Students are probably grappling with Neo vs base iPad, because the pencil has obvious benefits in their use case. That the Air is the same price as the Neo probably means the Air is dismissed unless using a third party keyboard.

An iPad Air is a mid tier product so it is not a surprise that it is more powerful than an entry level Macbook now that one exists.

iPad Air 1-2 are high tier Airs ( especially the GOAT the Air 2) because they were the “Pros” at the time ( especially the look of the Air 2)

3rd one is below mid tier consideing it was released 4 and a half years after the Air 2 with the same old design

4th gen one is high tier ( especially since it was revealed with a A14 before iPhone), redesign which is still in use today

5th gen is upper mid tier ( if it came with 128GB instead of 64GB it would have been top tier) but it came out while the Air 2 was still receiving the latest iPadOS at the time)

6-7th gen Air is definitely mid especially the 7th gen M3 version. M2 one is better because it had more features while also coming out with a 13 inch version

8th gen is upper mid simply because all models got 12GB of RAM

 

[Funny Apple Man]

Think of it this way - when was the last time low-cost iPad was released with a current gen chip? Never.

Yep, the chips for the base iPad has always been at least two generations behind, never less.