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Do you bootcamp?
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I boot camp for Steam. I use Big Picture Mode and my HDMI output on my rMBP plus a Xbox 360 Wireless Controller receiver to make it basically a gaming console.
Parallels gives you an option to use an existing Bootcamp Windows installation on the VM. In that case you are only running one copy of Windows, but both on real hardware and a VM. This means only one license is required.
Edit: Sorry, I might have been wrong here. Using the Bootcamp partition with just a single license works perfectly well after you activate Windows. But it seems that Microsoft licensing in this case is not absolutely clear. It appears, that Microsoft might actually require, that you have two licenses, as the license terms do not recognize a situation, where a single installation is used in two ways on the same computer. The terms always consider a VM to be different hardware, even if it is run on the same physical hardware. Using the Bootcamp installation both on a VM and natively might be comparable to using one physical hard drive on two separate computers. The problem is though, that if you run the Bootcamp installation on a Parallels VM, you can only use one license key, as there is only one installation. Not even Microsoft support seems to be absolutely sure how the licensing terms should be interpreted.
I you want to have a separate VM and Bootcamp, then you would need two licenses.
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Nope
I went Mac because I didn't want hassle.
I have Mac:Office installed, but seldom even use that these days.
If I had wanted the full on Microsoft and Windows thing I would have gone for a Windows computer.
I went Mac because I didn't want hassle.
I have Mac:Office installed, but seldom even use that these days.
If I had wanted the full on Microsoft and Windows thing I would have gone for a Windows computer.
I don't use boot camp, when I need to (very rarely) use a Windows program for work or school, I use my Win7 machine.
Laurihoefs:
That seems like a nice deal for Microsoft since there is only one physical installation that cannot be run more than one at a time
That seems like a nice deal for Microsoft since there is only one physical installation that cannot be run more than one at a time
I do...., mainly for CAD, until I purchase a new windows laptop with a workstation card.
I can then go back to my beloved OSX for everything else and use a dedicated machine for Solidworks and Spaceclaim...
I can then go back to my beloved OSX for everything else and use a dedicated machine for Solidworks and Spaceclaim...
No.
I do not play games aside from SC2, which is Apple-compatible.
I have no need for Windows-only applications.
I do not want to see the blue screen again or freezing as I haven't had a single freeze since buying my laptop in 2011.
I do not play games aside from SC2, which is Apple-compatible.
I have no need for Windows-only applications.
I do not want to see the blue screen again or freezing as I haven't had a single freeze since buying my laptop in 2011.
Laurihoefs:
That seems like a nice deal for Microsoft since there is only one physical installation that cannot be run more than one at a time
Yes it certainly does. Though it's actually both fairly new and fairly marginal, so I'm not so surprised that the licensing terms have not cought up.
I would also not be surprised if the terms were updated to require two licenses. Why let people only use one license, if you can make them to buy two
Same here. Had to swallow my pride and bootcamp for CAD and plus I like to play Sim City 4 and the Mac version sucks.
yup. mainly for games now and driver support. and occasionally for the few windows only programs.
i'd love for the day that os x games support and performance are as good as windows.
i'd love for the day that os x games support and performance are as good as windows.
Dota 2 is the only game I occasionally play. I think it is smoothly running on mac nowadays. That's the reason why I switched to parallels doing some excel/vba in the virtual machine. I realised that it's a way more efficient for me to use parallels (VM) instead if switching between the two OS.
For games, do people's rMBP's sound like they're taking off under Windows?
I played quite a few games under boot camp in Windows using my Santa Rosa MBP with an 8600M, but I expect that contributed to the part failing two years later (though it was a known issue with that GPU). It also got terrifyingly hot.
I was thinking about using my new Haswell rMBP plugged into my TV at 1080p or even 720p with the laptop closed. Would it be detrimental to the screen having it so close to the hot metal centre of the laptop? Or can I use just the HDMI out, leave the lid open and disable the retina display?
I played quite a few games under boot camp in Windows using my Santa Rosa MBP with an 8600M, but I expect that contributed to the part failing two years later (though it was a known issue with that GPU). It also got terrifyingly hot.
I was thinking about using my new Haswell rMBP plugged into my TV at 1080p or even 720p with the laptop closed. Would it be detrimental to the screen having it so close to the hot metal centre of the laptop? Or can I use just the HDMI out, leave the lid open and disable the retina display?
Sadly I have to use Windows for school nowadays...
For small things I work on a virtual W8.1, but for more demanding applications I'm switching to the boot camp partition.
For small things I work on a virtual W8.1, but for more demanding applications I'm switching to the boot camp partition.