Do you hate Mission Control? Here's a workaround!

[Icy1007]

and sometimes this happens. there's more windows off to the left of the screen but you can't see them. annoying.

I've never had that happen.

 

[chairguru22]

I don't like mission control a whole lot so far. It's different and I gotta get used to it. I liked my hot corners and using spaces and expose together to see all apps in all spaces, that was super easy.

Mission control just needs to update and tweak a few things.

 

[KingCrimson]

I don't like mission control a whole lot so far. It's different and I gotta get used to it. I liked my hot corners and using spaces and expose together to see all apps in all spaces, that was super easy.

Mission control just needs to update and tweak a few things.

It's Dashboard + Spaces + Expose. A mess.

 

[derekamoss]

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Steve still doesn't understand that people don't experience themselves working in apps, they experience themselves working in windows (of apps). People look for the windows they want to work in when they need to switch, especially when working with multiple apps and multiple windows of multiple apps.

This app-centric obssession in OS X is its fatal flaw. If the engineering and programming team could see things from an end-user point of view, and design a more consistent GUI that was more windows based and allowed users more control over their desktop and workflow, Mac OS would be much better off.


Believe it or not there is an OS out there exactly like you described. It's called Microsoft Windows.

 

[Thunderbird]

I wonder what give you the impression it's "fatal."

Fatal in the sense that the Mac OS won't progress much beyond its current user base, and won't make any inroads into business destops until it is more consistent, configurable and improves window management workflow. Some people feel Mac OS is already near its end, and that the influence of iOS elements within Mac will send the desktop OS into a different direction.

That's the problem; though up until now, Steve et al have understood this, as it's always been the Mac's strong point vs the more app based paradigm of Windows (and the wasted desktop that goes with it).(copy/paste).

I know there are those who like Safari fullscreen, and that's fine. I'm just using Safari as an example - the new Mail app does lend itself a bit better to fullscreen. But to try and change the UI paradigm from document based to app based is a huge mistake. It's good to have workflow options, but a full featured OS, on the whole, needs to maintain the document based UI. Lion, so far, is doing fine at integrating the two types (Mission Control is a good start, but does need some tweaking).

Good points overall. I don't agree that Windows is more app-centric though (not sure if you meant to say this). In Windows, the window is an instantiation of the app. In Mac, the app can be running without an open window. The windows and their menu functions are more consistent in Windows; whereas in Mac, each app tends to be more unique unto its own while still being retaining some common functionality (e.g. menu bar).

Yeah, maybe Apples record profits are proving fatal? )

Not sure what profits derived mostly from iPhone, iPod and iPad sales have to do with the Mac OS.

Really. The man who invented the first widespread OS to use windows doesn't understand it?

Steve, the man, didn't invent anything. Woz did.

If you'd rather stick to old technology, then stick to old technology consistently (don't upgrade the OS). Touch is the new tech, whether you touch a screen directly or on a touch pad. Apple's Magic Mouse still does this if you really must stick to a mouse, but I highly recommend the Magic Pad.

The touch pad may be new technology, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily better. It hasn't been adopted by most people sitting at their desks using PCs in offices yet, although many people are familiar with a form of the touch pad when using their laptops. The jury is still out, IMHO.

 

[handel30]

Steve still doesn't understand that people don't experience themselves working in apps, they experience themselves working in windows (of apps). People look for the windows they want to work in when they need to switch, especially when working with multiple apps and multiple windows of multiple apps.

You can still look at all your windows. The layering effect of all the open windows in apps -- Safari, for instance -- can be annoying at times, but you can actually expose all windows just like in Snow Leopard. Just go to System Preferences and choose "trackpad." Go to More Gestures and check App Expose swipe down with four fingers (you can also choose three). Voila. You can see all your windows! I find I can do just about everything I did on SL and more. It's very windows-centric this way.

 

[baryon]

You can still look at all your windows. The layering effect of all the open windows in apps -- Safari, for instance -- can be annoying at times, but you can actually expose all windows just like in Snow Leopard. Just go to System Preferences and choose "trackpad." Go to More Gestures and check App Expose swipe down with four fingers (you can also choose three). Voila. You can see all your windows! I find I can do just about everything I did on SL and more. It's very windows-centric this way.

No, you can't. You can either look at all windows WITHIN an app, or look at all apps but have all windows within a given app stacked. That's all you can do. I DON'T care about which App the thing is in that I'm looking for. I know what size it is, what it looks like and what it contains. I have no interest in remembering the icon and name of the app in which the picture I'm looking for is. Is it Preview? Is it a PDF viewer? Is it Pages? I don't care. It's a picture of a duck. That's all I care about, and I want to see the picture of the freaking duck and click on it, instead of first having to decide which app it's in.

 

[KnightWRX]

No, you can't. You can either look at all windows WITHIN an app, or look at all apps but have all windows within a given app stacked. That's all you can do. I DON'T care about which App the thing is in that I'm looking for. I know what size it is, what it looks like and what it contains. I have no interest in remembering the icon and name of the app in which the picture I'm looking for is. Is it Preview? Is it a PDF viewer? Is it Pages? I don't care. It's a picture of a duck. That's all I care about, and I want to see the picture of the freaking duck and click on it, instead of first having to decide which app it's in.

Frankly, I thought the old Expose was just a big mess. Having to wade through all those irrelevant Windows to find the Xcode window I was looking for was a bother. Just pop up the XCode windows and that's much less digging around crud I need to do.

I guess that's the difference between people who like the old way vs those who like the new way. I know which app has what content opened. I will switch to that app and wade through those windows only. I'm not some computer illiterate that doesn't know the difference between Preview, PDF Viewer, Pages or other apps. I know and I know in which I opened the content I want. Now the system helps me organize stuff.

 

[smali]

I remember the first time I hit the keyboard button for expose and I thought wow great!

I remember the first time I hit the keyboard button for Mission Control on my new MBP and I thought wtf is this ****?

 

[roadbloc]

The solution is 3 finger down swipe. "App Expose". Works brilliantly for me. 3 Fingers up brings up Mission Control an overview of all that is running on my system. Three fingers down shows me all the windows within that app I'm working on.

Also, if you're in Mission Control and you want to spread apart all the windows in an Application stack, do what is instinctive: spread your fingers apart.

All the functionality you need is there, it's just a different way of doing things.

+10,000. I found Mission Control unbearable, but now with the Application Expose enabled, it is much better. Still not keen on the lack of a spaces grid, but maybe I'll get used to that. (Or even better, Apple could implement it into Mission Control.)