Do you like Liquid Glass on Mac?

[kkclstuff]

"if they knew"​

yeah "if they knew" raises alot of questions, especially if you've ever tried to use the Apple Knowledge base or Apple Feedback.

For maybe the past 10+yrs the Knowledge base has been 'locked down'—especially when the question is highly relevant to an issue. Someone will ask ... hey this isnt working as expected or explained and when you go to join the conversation (to either explain, give solution, or commiserate about the lack of help) the "thread is locked and no longer taking replies".

It feels like a form of gaslighting to me and macOS26 has been the 1st time I've felt this directly from an  product and not just 'talk' on the user-base request/inquiry/compliant forums.

So, does Apple know? (maybe, probably, most likely yes), do they care? (im not sure anymore and doubtful).
I think there are lot of us 'old-timers' (System 7 here) that are disappointed to see this as a path to mediocrity, a distraction of 'bells and whistles' for the company—and that is not the  experience we've grown to expect (and love).

 

[amancalledsun]

"if they knew"​

yeah "if they knew" raises alot of questions, especially if you've ever tried to use the Apple Knowledge base or Apple Feedback.

For maybe the past 10+yrs the Knowledge base has been 'locked down'—especially when the question is highly relevant to an issue. Someone will ask ... hey this isnt working as expected or explained and when you go to join the conversation (to either explain, give solution, or commiserate about the lack of help) the "thread is locked and no longer taking replies".

It feels like a form of gaslighting to me and macOS26 has been the 1st time I've felt this directly from an  product and not just 'talk' on the user-base request/inquiry/compliant forums.

So, does Apple know? (maybe, probably, most likely yes), do they care? (im not sure anymore and doubtful).
I think there are lot of us 'old-timers' (System 7 here) that are disappointed to see this as a path to mediocrity, a distraction of 'bells and whistles' for the company—and that is not the  experience we've grown to expect (and love).

Honestly, it really seems like Tim Cook is just trying to milk profit for his last months/years as CEO, regardless of the long-term picture for the company. Shareholders are happy and he gets his performance bonuses. The innovation piece is long gone.

 

[Technerd108]

I’m now using an MS Surface 7 ARM with a touchscreen, and even though Windows 11’s UI doesn’t seem specifically designed for touch support, it works really well with it. I’m not sure if Apple had to make extensive changes to its UI to support touch, or at least not to this degree. That said, iOS is built for touch, yet they’ve stumbled with UI/UX much like with Tahoe. The new Apple updates feel more like a step backward than an improvement, almost as if they’re designed for planned obsolescence. They leave people with devices that, after the final upgrade, end up crippled with no way to downgrade in case for older iPhones and iPads. That’s why the idea of “let’s wait for 27 and see” comes across as ill-intentioned toward end users.

I think you are exactly right!

Well said!

 

[Technerd108]

I would soften it a bit - "let's wait for 27 and see" comes across as inconsiderate. I do have a laptop whose upgrade path ended with Sequoia, unable to move to Tahoe. I dodged a bullet. If that laptop was stuck on Tahoe, I would have been very disappointed.

I'm not sure I understand your point about planned obsolescence. Are you suggesting Apple knows 26 is flawed and will release 27 to fix it but make 27 mostly unavailable to older hardware?

I agree that 27 is a step backward for me and the usability of my computer. It will get worse as more of my applications convert to Liquid Glass. Right now, they are few and far between. It could be that Apple set the OS on a path that will end us in a much better place. But, they shouldn't have released a production OS that didn't take us further along that path. And if someone depends on hardware that gets stuck here, that would be very unfortunate.

I am not the person who you are responding to but in my opinion it is forced obsolescence for all non touch macs.


At least this hardware change seems like something that could punish those who don't own a touchscreen mac because they will be limited in software and features and the resale value will plummet on all Macs as the touchscreen makes it to the entire MacBook line.

I hope I am wrong!