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All iPads Do you own both iPad 4 and the Mini?
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There are, but I'll save those for my future sig or another thread. Thanks for your concern.
Since in your mind, there's no real way having both would add convenience or utility I figured I'd try another avenue. Personally, I've had an iPad since the first one and hope to get a mini for christmas. I was simply stating my use case in the even the OP or anyone else found any ways to utilize the different devices they hadn't thought of. But there is a bit of both reasons you mentioned (new and exciting, and I'm generally curious about technology - and I've thought of some uses that would add convenience to my mobile computing).
To each his own - you're right. But there's no need to get all pissy.
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Lol I guess answering the OP with some detail earns the scorn and jealousy of the other posters....tough gig.
I have the 4 and mini I prefer the 4 when I am around the house, but the mini goes everywhere else with me.
I have both ipads for convenience and utility, and for people to say that they find that 'disturbing' and 'hilarious' (because the mini fits in my jacket pocket, the ipad 4 does not - meaning to take the 4 anywhere I need a bag) means they don't get it.
That's fine, I've always said it was just my opinion, and everyone is entitled to theirs. However, saying you find it disturbing, hilarious and my decision is 'dumb' doesn't bring anything worthwhile to the argument, and is just bordering on throwing insults.
More than anything I can't believe people actually care enough to feel those emotions about comments on a forum!
Yes I read your post---as it's obvious, I quoted you. You're a new member to MR. You're amongst passionate Apple fans--most of us aren't 'dumb'...you're welcome to file this discussion in your 'non-sensical' or 'dumb' status in your own mind---but me, I make money with my gear.... Enough to pay my mortgage month in/month out....therefore, I have an actual reason for multiples of gear. Others, too, have their own personal or business related needs...
I've owned my own business for 19 years...and the WAY the iPad has transformed my business is analogous to the days I switched from carrying 70lb. milk crates filled with LPs---to carrying CDs--to ripping CDs in the 90s---to now having online, anytime access to literally 10s of millions of songs, SFX, and other necessary audio/video augmentation. I do have a pair of 2011 17' MBPs---I do have a pair of 2011 21.5' iMacs, I've also have an iPad from each generation---three iPhones (2 5s and a 4s), a Mac Pro, 2 11" Airs--an assortment of iPods, Airport Extreme, Apple TVs...the list goes on and on----However, you need to understand many of us have families, with kids. My older iPads (1/2) have been passed down to them. My wife is now enjoying the iPad3---myself, the iPad 4 and the newly acquired mini. Is there a LOT of redundancy---unequivocally & a resounding "Yes!". However, we NEED backups for our business. No time for 'dead air' with what we do...from 100 guest weddings to 5500 folks at the Godsmack show, I have plenty of 'reasons' that are far from 'dumb' to own multiple devices....not to mention, redundancy in my personal life--I know you find it silly, irrational, ridiculous, 'non-sensical', 'dumb', and all other slams you've thrown out---But AS an owner of each generation, I AM very familar with the attributes of each. There is not a subtle difference between the iPad 3/4 and the 'Mini'. IMHO, they're completely different animals. Especially taking into account the weight difference and/or portability factor!!! I am a fit 41 year old and try to hit the gym 3 or 4 days a week--I'm no gym rat--I'm only there to stay in shape. However, even as an 'in-shape' relatively young man--the difference for me switching from carrying a 1.5lb iPad literally everywhere I go--to a 3/4 pound iPad Mini is substantial. I tend to often wear cargo pants...I know, but I'm obviously a 'nerd'---and it fits in my hip pocket AND I can snap the pkt shut
That's. Cool...To me, anyway. Yet with the incredible size advantage, it also sports the same engine as the (32nm-updated) iPad 2 & 3--hence, it's not only a small package but it ALSO allows the use of every app available without handicap. The 3/4 is also with me--makes a better presentation device for clients, I like my magazines on the larger iPad, documents, PDFs, editing photos and videos--and the extensive cool-llection of audio production and 'synth' apps. The 'Mini'?--It's become my bed, restaurant, and bathroom 'surfer', FlipBoard, Pulse--some mags, movie and music machine---and games are a Kick in the Ass!!!You remind me of one of those folks that called the original iPad a 'Big iPhone'...not wanting to believe, honestly, that it was a whole new device that I never 'knew' I would want--nor need (in some weird way
), Right Away. It's the first time I've ever lined up for ANYTHING in my life---the iPad 2,3 & 4! My love for those devices piqued my interest in the Mini. While I will admit I wasn't expecting what I found---and in a way, I never dreamed it would fit into my 'life' the way it has.Sorry for the novel. I truly meant this to be more concise, but I did want to be specific as to MY reasons aren't dumb! My post, while directed at you (you seem to be the most outspoken)---I truly meant for those that think we, as owners of both aren't necessarily un-sensical --- I didn't mean to come across as pissed off...No need to calm down---BUT, you would be better served while debating your beliefs to refrain from using words like 'dumb'
I would think most of us on this board actually represent a 'brighter' percentage of the population per capita (brain-wise
) than most dirt bike or knitting forums
Addendum--Much shorter this time
It's obvious to me there are actually only a few her that just don't get it, and from my POV, it's because A) They're not as fond of the iPad in the first place (The big ones) or B) They've not seen/touched/used one or C) Green with envy---which is ugly, especially those inferring by answering this post honestly, others take it as 'bragging'. Total. Nonsense.
I'm not sure the OP had these kind of ridiculous comments in mind when asking his or her query.
So I ask, those of you slamming those of us that choose the own both--"Why are you here? In this particular thread---what compelled you to even take notice or read the entire thread?"
Ridiculous, juvenile...and certainly unwelcome. Next time, start your own thread with your topic. If we want to participate....
Never mind...I promised short
J
It's obvious to me there are actually only a few her that just don't get it, and from my POV, it's because A) They're not as fond of the iPad in the first place (The big ones) or B) They've not seen/touched/used one or C) Green with envy---which is ugly, especially those inferring by answering this post honestly, others take it as 'bragging'. Total. Nonsense.
I'm not sure the OP had these kind of ridiculous comments in mind when asking his or her query.
So I ask, those of you slamming those of us that choose the own both--"Why are you here? In this particular thread---what compelled you to even take notice or read the entire thread?"
Ridiculous, juvenile...and certainly unwelcome. Next time, start your own thread with your topic. If we want to participate....
Never mind...I promised short
J
Just because he called you dumb doesn't really make him "emotional" -- but perhaps he could have used nicer wording. But still, illogical is almost the same thing as dumb, IMO.
At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what you call it -- I just think that it's not smart to own both an iPad mini and an iPad - I think it's non-practical. The reason being that both devices serve the same exact purposes, it's only that one is a little smaller than the other (and not by much). So, in my opinion at least, what someone should ask themselves before making a purchase of either of these devices is: "which one of these devices best serves my needs?". The issue of portability is kind of irrelevant, once again, since both devices are intended for portability - it's just a matter of how much portability you're looking for.
Out of curiosity... if the iPad is too big for going out - why not invest in a laptop for home computing and an iPad mini for portability/traveling? That's what most people I know do
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Your rant was incredibly painful to read through -- and for such an extensive rant, your post had a surprisingly small amount of relevance to anything being discussed in this thread... I'm going to have to disagree with just about everything you wrote there. By your logic -- people should consider getting both white AND black iPhones - use black for when it's cold outside (black attracts heat) and use white when it's hot outside (doesn't attract as much heat)! It's preposterous.
While I don't think any of your reasons are "dumb", I'd be lying if I said I didn't think they were a little bizarre and nit-picky.
But I Most people I know, even though they have iPads, still own a "restaurant, bathroom, and bed surfer" device -- it's called an iPhone, you should really look into one if super portability is that much of a concern for you.The title of the thread is "Do you own both the iPad 4 and the mini?" From what I can tell, the question is directed towards:
a.) people with only iPad minis
b.) people with only iPads
c.) people with both
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I had a 3 and ordered the 4. Sold the 3. I then sold the 4 to get a mini. I had the mini for about a week and realized I couldnt get work done on it with my fat fingers. So sold the mini and back into a 4. I love the size of the mini, but it is very much a reader and not great for doing real work,emails.
Just because he called you dumb doesn't really make him "emotional" -- but perhaps he could have used nicer wording. But still, illogical is almost the same thing as dumb, IMO.
At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what you call it -- I just think that it's not smart to own both an iPad mini and an iPad - I think it's non-practical. The reason being that both devices serve the same exact purposes, it's only that one is a little smaller than the other (and not by much). So, in my opinion at least, what someone should ask themselves before making a purchase of either of these devices is: "which one of these devices best serves my needs?". The issue of portability is kind of irrelevant, once again, since both devices are intended for portability - it's just a matter of how much portability you're looking for.
Out of curiosity... if the iPad is too big for going out - why not invest in a laptop for home computing and an iPad mini for portability/traveling? That's what most people I know do
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Your rant was incredibly painful to read through -- and for such an extensive rant, your post had a surprisingly small amount of relevance to anything being discussed in this thread... I'm going to have to disagree with just about everything you wrote there. By your logic -- people should consider getting both white AND black iPhones - use black for when it's cold outside (black attracts heat) and use white when it's hot outside (doesn't attract as much heat)! It's preposterous.
While I don't think any of your reasons are "dumb", I'd be lying if I said I didn't think they were a little bizarre and nit-picky.
The title of the thread is "Do you own both the iPad 4 and the mini?" From what I can tell, the question is directed towards:
a.) people with only iPad minis
b.) people with only iPads
c.) people with both
Never said he was emotional, but finding it hilarious and disturbing is obvious feeling those emotions.
The main reasons I don't have a laptop over the ipad is battery life, size, it's always on, and easier to perform the tasks use it for on an ipad! Also love that it's always connected to the web (have the cellular version) so I don't have to hunt around for wifi. Don't get me wrong, I love the ipad 4 - it's brilliant for what I use it for - its just when I am actually traveling/commuting the ipad 4 is just too large to use. Please note I live in the UK where trains are a LOT smaller and extremely tightly packed during rush hour, and I would never consider getting a full sized ipad out to use on one of them! The mini however, slides perfectly into my jacket pocket and I can use it anywhere I am, with the added benefit of me not having to lug a bag around just to keep it in (which is also a security risk on public transport)
Hope that explains my reasons a little better, emotion-free!
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Just because he called you dumb doesn't really make him "emotional" -- but perhaps he could have used nicer wording. But still, illogical is almost the same thing as dumb, IMO.
At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what you call it -- I just think that it's not smart to own both an iPad mini and an iPad - I think it's non-practical. The reason being that both devices serve the same exact purposes, it's only that one is a little smaller than the other (and not by much). So, in my opinion at least, what someone should ask themselves before making a purchase of either of these devices is: "which one of these devices best serves my needs?". The issue of portability is kind of irrelevant, once again, since both devices are intended for portability - it's just a matter of how much portability you're looking for.
Out of curiosity... if the iPad is too big for going out - why not invest in a laptop for home computing and an iPad mini for portability/traveling? That's what most people I know do
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Your rant was incredibly painful to read through -- and for such an extensive rant, your post had a surprisingly small amount of relevance to anything being discussed in this thread... I'm going to have to disagree with just about everything you wrote there. By your logic -- people should consider getting both white AND black iPhones - use black for when it's cold outside (black attracts heat) and use white when it's hot outside (doesn't attract as much heat)! It's preposterous.
While I don't think any of your reasons are "dumb", I'd be lying if I said I didn't think they were a little bizarre and nit-picky.
The title of the thread is "Do you own both the iPad 4 and the mini?" From what I can tell, the question is directed towards:
a.) people with only iPad minis
b.) people with only iPads
c.) people with both
A nice little blog on the lovely rail system we have to put with, if you're interested!
http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/12/what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-british-trains/
Your opinion is just that. I can see applications where I want an iPad 3 or 4 to use about the house and a mini to take wife me when I walk out of the house. Kind of like having my cake and eating it, too.
Your opinion is just that. I can see applications where I want an iPad 3 or 4 to use about the house and a mini to take wife me when I walk out of the house. Kind of like having my cake and eating it, too.
Redundancy extraordinaire.
Little need, it is a want.
I do not know what can be done on a 4 that cannot be done on the mini. Portability and size I understand to a point IF someone never carried the larger iPad out of the house ever but I think that percentage would be very low.
I certainly would rather spend the money elsewhere rather than owning two for myself.
Thats some pretty bold assumptions with no ground. I have both the iPad Mini and iPad 4, which I need for work and I prefer the mini. it has nothing to do with cost, but convenience. Even when I am sitting on the couch and browsing mac rumors I prefer the mini.
My GF went travelling with the mini and I am using the 4, but missing the mini!
And yes I like being able to take it with me and when I switch trains or buses quickly stuck into my jeans back pocket and then take it out again and continue reading.
Oh and yeah, I have no covers on it except for the smart cover and often times carry it in my hand or my back pocket.
Sure..., first its only people who can't afford an iPad 4 are getting the mini and now only stupid people get the cellular version. I have two cellular plans because it is more convenient for me, it doesn't kill my iPhone battery and I don't have to constantly unlock my phone, go to settings, go to hotspot, turn it on, unlock my mini, go to settings, go to wifi, tap connect to iPhone.
If that's a good enough reason for you to dish out more cash to the wireless carriers, that's your decision, not mine.
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At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what you call it -- I just think that it's not smart to own both an iPad mini and an iPad - I think it's non-practical. The reason being that both devices serve the same exact purposes, it's only that one is a little smaller than the other (and not by much). So, in my opinion at least, what someone should ask themselves before making a purchase of either of these devices is: "which one of these devices best serves my needs?". The issue of portability is kind of irrelevant, once again, since both devices are intended for portability - it's just a matter of how much portability you're looking for.
Out of curiosity... if the iPad is too big for going out - why not invest in a laptop for home computing and an iPad mini for portability/traveling? That's what most people I know do
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Your rant was incredibly painful to read through -- and for such an extensive rant, your post had a surprisingly small amount of relevance to anything being discussed in this thread... I'm going to have to disagree with just about everything you wrote there. By your logic -- people should consider getting both white AND black iPhones - use black for when it's cold outside (black attracts heat) and use white when it's hot outside (doesn't attract as much heat)! It's preposterous.
While I don't think any of your reasons are "dumb", I'd be lying if I said I didn't think they were a little bizarre and nit-picky.
The title of the thread is "Do you own both the iPad 4 and the mini?" From what I can tell, the question is directed towards:
a.) people with only iPad minis
b.) people with only iPads
c.) people with both
"Your rant was incredibly painful to read through"
As are ALL of your responses--yet it was YOU that put me into a position of justification...if you find it painful, run along with your evangelical proclamation of redundancy...especially in a thread that doesn't have a damn thing to do with your drivel
"The title of the thread is "Do you own both the iPad 4 and the mini?" From what I can tell, the question is directed towards:
a.) people with only iPad minis
b.) people with only iPads
c.) people with both"
Exactly!!! So what is YOUR motivation in this thread?
Oh...lol--never mind, you're new here
You'll find, after more than a couple weeks in our community here at MR--most of us also own other Apple products. All for different reasons...NONE that need to be justified to you
We get it..your Mom said "Absolutely NOT!!!"
--hopefully she'll surprise you with a 'Mini' this year...or maybe Santa will bring you one...then you'll 'get it'Happy Holidays!
J
"Your rant was incredibly painful to read through"
As are ALL of your responses--yet it was YOU that put me into a position of justification...if you find it painful, run along with your evangelical proclamation of redundancy...especially in a thread that doesn't have a damn thing to do with your drivel
"The title of the thread is "Do you own both the iPad 4 and the mini?" From what I can tell, the question is directed towards:
a.) people with only iPad minis
b.) people with only iPads
c.) people with both"
Exactly!!! So what is YOUR motivation in this thread?
Oh...lol--never mind, you're new here
You'll find, after more than a couple weeks in our community here at MR--most of us also own other Apple products. All for different reasons...NONE that need to be justified to you
We get it..your Mom said "Absolutely NOT!!!"
Happy Holidays!
J
You're really testing my patience with your absurdity, you know that? How is my join date in any way relavent to anything being discussed in this thread? Let's, for a moment, disregard the fact that I've been a MacRumors member since late 2007 - assuming I was a brand new member to the community, please point out how that, in any way, has anything to do with anything?
How was my post hard to read through? First of all, I didn't post a completely nonsensical wall of text going on and on about how much weight I lift at the gym or carrying milk crates, or paying my mortgage... you'll have to clarify how anything in my post could be seen as "drivel" after what you made everyone endure through reading.
Also, "evangelical proclamation of redundancy?" Try, down to Earth, level-headed realism. There's practically no point in owning two iPads to yourself. Maybe multiple within one household for multiple people, sure. But all to yourself? No matter how long you go on ranting in order to justify your reasoning behind it -- there's just no sensible reason for owning two iPads -- especially not with any of the reasons you provided...
"The title of the thread is "Do you own both the iPad 4 and the mini?" From what I can tell, the question is directed towards:
a.) people with only iPad minis
b.) people with only iPads
c.) people with both"
Exactly!!! So what is YOUR motivation in this thread?
Oh...lol--never mind, you're new here
J
Again, assuming I was new to the MR forum community (which I previously stated that I'm not) - what does that have anything to do with me being in this thread?
I have an iPad - therefore the question is partly directed towards me. Or is that too difficult for you to wrap your head around?
Again, the rest of your response is just a rant of you going on about how "mommy declined buying me two iPads"... when in reality I earn my own money, support myself, and buy my own products -- I'm not sure if the same could be said for you! If you understood the value of a dollar, maybe you wouldn't be so quick to splurge it through such wasteful spending.
No one needs two iPads to themselves - NO ONE!
Because one is a portable computer, while the other is a phone/SMS/mobile device? At the core, they serve two entirely different functions. By your standards, if someone owns a smartphone, they shouldn't own a computer! Kind of silly, if you ask me.
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Need and want are two different things entirely. Unless where you go there is some law or a reason I would not know where you cannot bring/use an iPad but you could a mini then by all means. Size and portability? Last I looked my 4 is not big, I personally would not spend the money on both and I could easily afford it. I'd rather have a different toy.
I have given you my reasons, and they seem sensible to me. I haven't seen any sensible reasons from you about why 2 doesn't make sense (in my case scenario), and you have chosen to ignore my explanation.
I don't know why you appear to be getting so uptight about other people having 2 iPads - we're just explaining our reasons which make sense to us (in response to the thread title) You seem to be getting angrier and angrier that people have 2 iPads, which as suggested above just appears that there is some reason you can't have 2, rather than don't want 2!
Either way, you need to let it go and chill out! I'm not going to sell 1 of mine because you insist I have made a dumb decision!
I have both the iPad 3 and iPad mini, and I use them both for different things. Due to the form factor the mini is great for gaming and is lighter therefore easier to read in bed with, I also take the mini with me when I go to work/train to events/etc as its lighter and just easier to pick up and go.
The iPad 3 has become the device I use at home. It's my laptop replacement in that I use it for heavy web browsing, watching movies, YouTube, etc.
I don't need both but they fit into my life well and I can afford them, so why not have both?
To being said if they release a retina mini with an up to date processor it may be my one device.
The iPad 3 has become the device I use at home. It's my laptop replacement in that I use it for heavy web browsing, watching movies, YouTube, etc.
I don't need both but they fit into my life well and I can afford them, so why not have both?
To being said if they release a retina mini with an up to date processor it may be my one device.
I had a iPad 1, 2 then the 3. I got the Mini as well basically to see what it was like. I immediately fell in love with it. After several months of using it, I finally just sold my iPad 3, sold the 16GB mini I bought to "play with" and got a 32 MB AT&T LTE Mini to use as my sole iPad.
Love the Mini!
Love the Mini!
These "do you need both?" threads have been around for a few years - the chronology:
laptop vs ipad
ipad vs MBA
and now ipad vs mini
they all go the same, with someone being the instigator telling everyone else he has pronounced it "stupid", and everyone else should fall in line.
The big problem is people rise to the occasion and fight a losing battle, as he enjoys the fight more than the content. And due to that motivation, you never can win.....
Let him get back to his dorm room, and continue to enjoy your multiple purchases....
laptop vs ipad
ipad vs MBA
and now ipad vs mini
they all go the same, with someone being the instigator telling everyone else he has pronounced it "stupid", and everyone else should fall in line.
The big problem is people rise to the occasion and fight a losing battle, as he enjoys the fight more than the content. And due to that motivation, you never can win.....
Let him get back to his dorm room, and continue to enjoy your multiple purchases....
Why do you keep implying that I'm asking you to sell one of your devices? This is a forum, we're discussing opinions and philosophies - stop inferring that I'm asking you to sell your iPad, it makes no sense. You claiming that I'm upset because I want two iPads but can't afford two is completely ridiculous, lol. These are iPads we're talking about - not yachts, private jets, and Lamborghinis... sure a lot of people can afford two iPads, but most reasonable people stick to one. I'm sure that if Apple decided to release an iPad nano, you would find a way to justify purchasing it. Honestly, at this point, I'd have more respect for you if you just admitted to being an Apple product collector.
I'm not uptight, if you think I am, you may be reading too much into everything - but make no mistake -- I am offended by what akdj said - making childish, baseless assumptions has no place for a discussion on a forum. I find it ironic that he claims that mommy buys my iProducts for me when I'm conservative with my money while he's, more or less, wasteful with his.
I'd love for you to point out which one of my reasons for sticking to one iPad isn't sensible. Again, even I can agree that there are justifiable reasons for purchasing one or more iPads -- for example, if you run a small business and need multiple portable computers for customer transactions, quick internet access, or storage space for documents and information, sure. But the reasons you provided earlier don't seem to add up. You want an iPad mini for when you travel outdoors, okay. You want your iPad for when you're at home, okay... so what's the point in owning a laptop, then?
I've already told you I don't own a laptop, and I've listed precisely the reasons I prefer the iPad 4 over one?
I've only said it once? and even that was tongue in cheek.
I give up. You clearly can't take on board anyone else's opinion but your own - I've tried to list my reasons clearly but you've chosen to ignore all of them and now just want me to 'admit' to being an Apple Product Collector. As Glen E says above, this discussion is going nowhere!
Enjoy your iPad, and I'll enjoy the both of mine!