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I’d like to have LTE on my watch but geez man, already paying for it at home and the phone, and that’s enough for me.
 
I just purchased an AW4 and am currently using AW2 and neither has come with the LTE chip because I've never felt the need to get one with it. I always have my phone with me so I use that. I can understand the additional cost of the watch with LTE chip and can understand that some enjoy the freedom of being untethered from a phone. For me, the value of my perceived use compared to the cost of monthly fees is what keeps me from going the LTE route.
 
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i would use cellular functionality when in the gym because i leave my phone in the locker room.

unfortunately, since the iphone is not able to cellular connect to the network while in the locker, the aw4 can't connect (as you know, BOTH devices need to be on and connected to the same cellular network in order to use cellular on the watch), so i'm limited to use wi-fi only. what a pity...

anyway, awesome device.
 
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i would use cellular functionality when in the gym because i leave my phone in the locker room.

unfortunately, since the iphone is not able to cellular connect to the network while in the locker, the aw4 can't connect (as you know, BOTH devices need to be on and connected to the same cellular network in order to use cellular on the watch), so i'm limited to use wi-fi only. what a pity...

anyway, awesome device.

This is the same issue for me. I ended up syncing some music to the watch for offline listening. My gym does provide free WiFi but the watch can’t connect to any access point with a login page.
 
I didn’t realise that if your paired iPhone is turned off (or battery rubs out) then the cellular Apple Watches basically turn into GPS versions, except can still send/receive iMessages and FaceTime Audio calls.

I’m not sure how I missed this pretty important point, seeing as I read forums regularly and have been an AW owner for a year....
 
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I didn’t realise that if your paired iPhone is turned off (or battery rubs out) then the cellular Apple Watches basically turn into GPS versions, except can still send/receive iMessages and FaceTime Audio calls.

I’m not sure how I missed this pretty important point, seeing as I read forums regularly and have been an AW owner for a year....

in my case, also imessages and facetime didn't work.
[doublepost=1539678728][/doublepost]UPDATE:

just tried in the office: cellular works perfectly also with iphone offline. you just have to turn off wi fi.
can't figure out why it didn't work while in the gym.. i'll try again asap because i'm still missing something
 
I just tried with my phone and watch 4 with cellular service through AT&T. Powered the phone off, waited a few seconds and the watch connected to cellular (as indicated with the signal strength dots and the service antenna icon turning green) and then I called my cell phone number from a landline and it rang on my watch. Then I sent a text to a friend with an android and they replied. Then tried an email and was able to email from my watch and check emails as they came in on my watch. Lastly, I talked to my wife on the walkie-talkie app with the watch. All worked fine with the phone turned off.

What am I missing that other people are doing that causes theirs not to work?
 
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Whether true or not, those arguing that the LTE AW is pretty much useless with the iPhone off...what is your claim for the percentage that this scenario will happen? Assuming you charge your phone at least every night, are you going to be away from your iPhone until the battery dies (I'd estimate at least 24 hours)? Are you going to intentionally turn off your iPhone when you leave it behind (and why)?

Genuine question.

Me personally, the only time I'd picture my iPhone turned off is if I lose it somewhere and battery dies, which is a completely different scenario for me than worrying what functionality I lose on my AW.
 
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I just tried with my phone and watch 4 with cellular service through AT&T. Powered the phone off, waited a few seconds and the watch connected to cellular (as indicated with the signal strength dots and the service antenna icon turning green) and then I called my cell phone number from a landline and it rang on my watch. Then I sent a text to a friend with an android and they replied. Then tried an email and was able to email from my watch and check emails as they came in on my watch. Lastly, I talked to my wife on the walkie-talkie app with the watch. All worked fine with the phone turned off.

What am I missing that other people are doing that causes theirs not to work?

Services that use data, will work with the phone switched off. All your examples only require a working data connection.

However, I’m being informed here that cellular connection works with the phone switched off as well. I’ll test that out tomorrow.
 
I have cellular as SS only comes with Cellular+GPS, however I've never felt the need for cellular. My phone is also my wallet as I have a credit card holder attached to the back. I can't think of one scenario where I'd go anywhere without my wallet (driver's license) / phone. I only workout out in a gym so I can place my phone in my pocket or on the floor, or on somewhere on the machine.
 
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Services that use data, will work with the phone switched off. All your examples only require a working data connection.

However, I’m being informed here that cellular connection works with the phone switched off as well. I’ll test that out tomorrow.

FYI from https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205547

Only SMS/MMS and push notifications from third parties require the phone to be on:
  1. To receive SMS from third-party apps, MMS from third-party apps, or push notifications from third-party apps on your cellular model of Apple Watch, your paired iPhone must be powered on and connected to Wi-Fi or cellular, but it doesn't need to be nearby. You also need to be signed in to iMessage on your iPhone.
  2. If you're on Wi-Fi and want to call a phone number, make sure that Wi-Fi calling is turned on for your Apple Watch. Otherwise, try making a FaceTime audio call.
I think people are confused about wifi calling and cellular calling. If your carrier doesn't support wifi calling, or you don't have it on, your watch can't make or receive calls on wifi.
 
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I think people are confused about wifi calling and cellular calling. If your carrier doesn't support wifi calling, or you don't have it on, your watch can't make or receive calls on wifi.
You might have just found the issue here. I do have WiFi calling available and turned on, so hopefully will be fine.
 
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I use mine everyday, in fact I’m leaving my iPhone home more and more on short trips, walks, runs etc., One of my vehicles doesn’t have Bluetooth so I bought a Jabra Freeway and my watch pairs fine. The importance of the phone has been diminished so much, for me,I have held off upgrading for now.
 
This is the thing. I found out that calls or text will not get through to your watch if the phone is not switched on. Watch the attached video in my previous post.

Yes but rarely my phone is dead so in his situation his phone is on but say he forgot it in his car or house. Imho for 10 it’s worth it but to me meh I only have it for notifications and for the gym so it’s no biggy
 
Just need it for Stainless unfortunately. Kind of an Apple Tax of sorts. Will never activate cellular though. Waste of money for me.
 
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Yes im I’m in Canada with Bell!
Man, that's awesome. If it was the equivalent here in the US, I would totally jump on that. But all the plans start at basically $10. And most carriers (if not all, if I'm not mistaken) charge tax on top of that, which brings the total higher. My understanding is that Japan has similar pricing with Canada. maaaaaaan....
 
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