iPhone XR Do you think Apple will kill the iPhone xr or refresh it?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by chad.petree, Dec 28, 2018.

  1. chad.petree, Dec 28, 2018
    Last edited: Dec 28, 2018

    chad.petree macrumors 6502

    Feb 2, 2013
    With all the bad press the iPhone xr has been getting: apple not disclosing the official sales of it's phones anymore , seeing at least here in Germany dtores discounting an iPhone for the first time , merely months after the release , also the media ( deservedly) criticizing its screen; do you think Apple will remove it from its 2019 lineup?

    I think the production costs of the iPhone x design should be low enough after 2 years of using it ( it's pretty clear , that apple won't change the design next year ) , so that the iPhone xs becomes the standard iPhone at a "sane" price point .

    What do you think? Do you see this happening or do you just see apple slapping a 1080p screen on the iPhone xr and an improved camera and calling it a day ? Or even worse just updating the internals and the camera and keep using the 720p screen ? Or maybe just keeping it as discounted option but not releasing a 2019 at all ?
  2. I7guy macrumors P6


    Nov 30, 2013
    Gotta be in it to win it
    It’s hard to tell. I think the Xr will live on in 2019...the same theme as in 2018 with upgraded hardware and software. I also think prices will remain the same as 2018.
  3. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

    Relentless Power

    Jul 12, 2016
    The key to the XR is the size, most of Apples competitors are offering 6 inch smart phones, and by Apple offering this phone size, they stay competitive in that market, so I do believe the XR will be refreshed for 2019, at least for another year.
  4. BugeyeSTI macrumors 68030


    Aug 19, 2017
    It will be around for a few more years with updates along the way.
  5. s15119 macrumors 68000


    Nov 20, 2010
    Nope, it's an exceptionally popular phone.
  6. Easttime macrumors 6502a

    Jun 17, 2015
    We love our XRs. Don’t understand the problem, other than cost of course.
  7. Conan86 macrumors 6502

    Apr 9, 2012
  8. s15119 macrumors 68000


    Nov 20, 2010
    I would also note that Wired Magazine calls the XR the best wireless product of 2018
  9. snowboarder macrumors 6502

    Jun 9, 2007
    How many have you seen outside of Apple stores? Me? - ZERO.
  10. cub4bearin macrumors regular

    Mar 20, 2009
    Have to agreed
  11. agente46 macrumors regular

    Sep 12, 2014
    Many people use cases. It’s almost impossible to tell between a Xr with a X or Xs in a case.

    Why are you guys walking around stalking people’s phones anyway?

    I have never bothered to pay attention to other people’s phone while I’m on the bus, train, or anywhere for that matter
  12. AddisonIII macrumors regular

    May 8, 2013
    I own an XR and know a few others who own one. I can’t be happier. It would have been nice had I got mine at some of the sale prices I have seen, but oh well.
  13. m0sher macrumors 6502


    Mar 4, 2018
    If not an XR I’m pretty sure moving forward Apple will have another $750 variant next year of some kind even if it’s not called XR. Maybe an 11C....etc
  14. snowboarder macrumors 6502

    Jun 9, 2007
    Sorry, but that's BS. XR is very different and easy to spot.
    People don't hide their phones, stalking? - a silly argument.
    By far most iPhones out there are 7+ or 8+
  15. 1rottenapple macrumors 68020

    Apr 21, 2004
    I think it will live on.

    I think $1000 is a barrier for many people to spend that much on a cell phone.

    If we use the computer example, there are people that can’t spend that much on a computer and will happily spend 300-500 on a laptop but can never spend 1000. These people don’t spend time on macrumors.

    Similarly there’s many many more people out there that I doubt will spend that’s much on a xs but a discounted xr is very appealing to them. Heck an iPhone 6s or 7 would be great!
  16. chad.petree, Dec 28, 2018
    Last edited: Dec 28, 2018

    chad.petree thread starter macrumors 6502

    Feb 2, 2013
    Yeah but most manufacturers are going for 6.4" inches , the size of the iPhone max , which is bigger than the xr , if the max were cheaper there'd be no reason for the xr to exist

    People are buying the xr over the xs because of the price , that's it , I have a hard time believing people would choose it over the xs if they would cost the same ...

    Do you mean apple will just discount it like it did with the iPhone 8? No hardware updates at all for the xr ?
  17. user1234 macrumors 6502a


    Mar 3, 2009
    Three including mine. Love the XR and hope apple will keep an LCD phone in the linup for years to come
  18. JBGoode, Dec 29, 2018
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2018

    JBGoode macrumors regular


    Jun 16, 2018
    I interacted with dozens of people yesterday and I've no idea what phone any of them owned. People generally don't wave them around shouting "Look! Look!" So unless you stare at strangers all day waiting for them to pull out their phone, the fact that you've seen zero of these phones means absolutely nothing. I've never seen anyone with an XS Max but I know they're out there
  19. Glideslope macrumors 603


    Dec 7, 2007
    A quiet place in NY.
    Lovin my 8+. Know allot of people with 8’s and even 7’s. Simply won’t pay the ridiculous prices. The 7&8 run very well on 12.1 :apple:
  20. StellarVixen macrumors 68000


    Mar 1, 2018
    I think it will live. There are a lot of people who want iPhone, but do not feel like giving $1000+ for it.
  21. superleakTx macrumors member

    Dec 28, 2018
  22. George Knighton macrumors 65816

    George Knighton

    Oct 13, 2010
    Personally, I don't think they're going to do anything at all.

    The iPhone XR is not selling badly. They just overestimated the popularity.

    There is nothing wrong with the iPhone XR except that it was marketed as a budget device, which is hard to justify at 750.00. It's not a budget device at all. It's just a cheaper iPhone, that's all, and they just overestimated the popularity.

    Compared to devices like the OnePlus 6T, the iPhone XR is obviously not a "best buy" kind of device...it's just a cheaper iPhone.

    I do not believe that any kind of redesign in year two would be a sound business move. If it makes sense to put the Apple modem into it instead of the Intel modem, that's different. If it makes sense to use the next generation A-list/ARM processor, they might do that.

    But changing the screen, the camera, or anything else physical? I don't think so.

    IMHO they should keep selling it but change their expectations of the sales performance in this era of competitiveness, and at this time of saturation of the smartphone market (at least in the West).
  23. pmau macrumors 68000

    Nov 9, 2010
    My guess is they will simply not refresh it and call it something else.
    This is what they do these days.

    They killed the MacBook and updated the Air, stopped selling the MacBook.
    They killed the iPhone X and called it XS, not selling the X anymore.
    They will kill the Xr and replace it, not selling it anymore.

    Once they think ARM is mature regarding the codebase, they will completely kill the small MacBooks.
    Then they can sell custom CPU/GPU and AI chips that nobody can use outside macOS.

    Unfortunately I strongly believe this will happen sooner than later.
    All the PC hardware components are not profitable enough to sell.

    Apple is about margin, not products.
    They will throw them at us, because this is what Tim Cook has done all the time.

    Apple watches, iPhone models, iPad models, iMacs in various stages, etc.
  24. George Knighton macrumors 65816

    George Knighton

    Oct 13, 2010

    I think there were two points to this.

    One was to increase overall performance without having to rely on their equity with Intel to make Intel do what they wanted.

    The other reason has to do with getting Mac OS to look and act more like iOS, and the other way around. In the very near future, we will have some applications that are designed to work the same way on iOS and Mac OS, and indeed to even be the exact same application.
  25. JPack macrumors 68040


    Mar 27, 2017

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