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Do you think new MBP's have HDMI; current solutions for HDMI?

Hi guys,
sorry to interrupt with my own questions but they are related to this topic:
- I have bought new sets of speakers from jamo, and I will buy the next generation MBP as soon as it comes out. I have a samsung full hd lcd television and a PS3. I still need to buy an amplifier for my set. My questions are regarding of the capabilities of the output of the MBP. if I want to watch for example a Blue ray movie on my MBP and I want it to stream on my tv with maximum possibilities (i.e. dolby surround/DTS sound (the newer versions like DTS HD or something like that, is not necessary)) and watch it in the best possible resolution on my tv, will that be possible concerning the output options of the MBP? I know I probably need digital out for my sound( is that available on the MBP?) and an output port for my video, but if I understand correctly the new HDMI ports nowadays (1.3 &1.4) are capable of processing both the sound and video, but I understand the MBP dont have these ports so it will have to go throuh a converter right? any thoughts on this? I can always adjust the buying of my amplifier on the possibilities of the MBP. But I would like to know also if it will be possible to get my sound surround on all the 5 speakers. Thanks in advance
 
Filipek said:
Hi guys,
sorry to interrupt with my own questions but they are related to this topic:
- I have bought new sets of speakers from jamo, and I will buy the next generation MBP as soon as it comes out. I have a samsung full hd lcd television and a PS3. I still need to buy an amplifier for my set. My questions are regarding of the capabilities of the output of the MBP. if I want to watch for example a Blue ray movie on my MBP and I want it to stream on my tv with maximum possibilities (i.e. dolby surround/DTS sound (the newer versions like DTS HD or something like that, is not necessary)) and watch it in the best possible resolution on my tv, will that be possible concerning the output options of the MBP? I know I probably need digital out for my sound( is that available on the MBP?) and an output port for my video, but if I understand correctly the new HDMI ports nowadays (1.3 &1.4) are capable of processing both the sound and video, but I understand the MBP dont have these ports so it will have to go throuh a converter right? any thoughts on this? I can always adjust the buying of my amplifier on the possibilities of the MBP. But I would like to know also if it will be possible to get my sound surround on all the 5 speakers. Thanks in advance
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There is no way to watch a Bluray movie on an MBP because it does not have and most likely won't have a Bluray drive in the current & upcoming models. Unless you go the download way.

Starting from 2010 models, the Mini Displayport supports outputting both video and audio.
 
mxulive said:
Thanks guys. I bought my 13" Macbook Pro new in September 2010 so it should be the latest version. How is the sound quality through the Griffin adaptor?
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I can't tell you until Monday, sorry. I was too scared to upset the Angry Octopus - the mess of cabling behind my TV/amp/consoles/cable box - so I couldn't plug it into my amp, I only checked out the picture quality. I've ordered a 5 port HDMI switch to sort it out; I can let you know then if you like.

As for the picture quality - better than I expected. You could easily use a HDTV as a monitor replacement if sitting at typical TV-viewing distances. For some reason, the internal screen switches to a very low resolution when you turn on mirroring.
 
mxulive said:
I was wondering if you guys think the next iteration of the MBP will have HDMI built in or do you think they will keep mini-displayport? Secondly, I bought an mini-displayport to HDMI cable from monoprice but there is no sound... I was wondering if anyone knows any solutions to get both picture and sound from the laptop to my TV.

Thanks.
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This Moshi Mini adaptor, available at Apple stores, will get picture and sound to your TV via HDMI wonderfully. I've had it for a few months now and it works great.

http://store.apple.com/us/product/H1824ZM/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY
 
haruhiko said:
There is no way to watch a Bluray movie on an MBP because it does not have and most likely won't have a Bluray drive in the current & upcoming models. Unless you go the download way.

Starting from 2010 models, the Mini Displayport supports outputting both video and audio.
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but I could use an external blue ray player, right? and considering the surround sound and so, wouldnt there be any other problems as I stated above?
 
I just bought a cheap pc laptop with an hdmi port plus a cheap ten dollar 25ft hdmi cable and , bang, movie and audio...plain and simple.

I mean really...all this crap with macs... and I'm a long time mac user...but all this garbage with adapters and this one or that mac model doesn't pass audio in the same cable nonsense is mind boggling idiotic when it should be real simple..Port>cable>Tv = satisfied user!

This thing with apple not being able to provide the most common of simple connections is ridiculous
 
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Wie Gehts said:
I just bought a cheap pc laptop with an hdmi port plus a cheap ten dollar 25ft hdmi cable and , bang, movie and audio...plain and simple.

I mean really...all this crap with macs... and I'm a long time mac user...but all this garbage with adapters and this one or that mac model doesn't pass audio in the same cable nonsense is mind boggling idiotic when it should be real simple..Port>cable>Tv = satisfied user!

This thing with apple not being able to provide the most common of simple connections is ridiculous
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I love my mac but I would have to agree with you there. Simply hate having to carry around 2 adapters, one for VGA and one HDMI, plus the Cables required to connect to said devices. I understand the reasoning to an extent, but if we aren't paying for the use of MDP then why not throw in the adapters free. And HDMI is more then capable of handling high res. HDMI 1.4/1.4a can handle 4k x 2k res. Only down fall would be the $0.04 apple would have to part with per machine. (HDMI royalty fee per port, or a flat 10k volume liscense) Still better then the $29 adapter I need to lug around.

Oh and did I mention the ever growing PIA about TV's not recognizing our macs or vise versa. Now that's a bummer. Tried it one day with my 15", a 13" uni, and the older style 15" uni. Out of all three macs mine was the only one that recognized the TV's. All macs were running 10.6.6. And better yet all three machines had Bootcamp Win7. And while in Bootcamp all three machines worked with multiple TV's despite sound, only mine did that. (My buddy owns a sport bar so we had lots of TV's to try).
 
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haruhiko said:
I actually bought this the day before but after reading some reviews in the Apple Store I feel a bit worried. Many people said that the adapter fails after a month or so🙄
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Mine is still working strong, even with me unplugging it every day so that I can take my MacBook Air to work with me.
 
whooleytoo said:
As for the picture quality - better than I expected. You could easily use a HDTV as a monitor replacement if sitting at typical TV-viewing distances. For some reason, the internal screen switches to a very low resolution when you turn on mirroring.
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It tries to match the right res to fill your tv's screen. You can change the res manually in settings, and it should remember your preference the next time you plug it in.
 
HDMI on a Macbook is a horrendous idea. Being a digital only connection, it actually limits your connectivity options.

In the end of the day, DisplayPort (like DVI before it) is at it's core a computer display connector and at that task it performs fantastically. HDMI at it's core is designed for connecting consumer devices such as televisions, dvd players and so on.

Lastly, considering a Mini-DP - HDMI cable can be had for all of $20 on ebay the advantages far outweigh the benefits.

DisplayPort is here to stay, and thats brilliant. 😀
 
Mikey7c8 said:
In the end of the day, DisplayPort (like DVI before it) is at it's core a computer display connector and at that task it performs fantastically. HDMI at it's core is designed for connecting consumer devices such as televisions, dvd players and so on. 😀
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HMMMM isn't that the whole Idea. So we can easily connect our consumer devices!! Not everyone likes to connect to a desktop display. I would much rather have a connection that plays nice with comsumer electronics. IE my television. I think the display port is here to stay, but I am willing to bet more people connect a MBP to consumer devices, then to a DISPLAY port equipped Display.

Apple uses items that it can leverage to it's own products. Just liek no BR support, instead we are meant to use iTunes and download our HD content.
 
Can't see a HDMI port coming in the next revision. However this thread did make me chuckle a few times. People complaining about carrying dongles yet on other threads people suggesting dumping the ODD as they would be happy enough to carry around an external drive.

orfeas0 said:
Its not the use of minidisplayport that causes inconvenience, its the lack of hdmi, and the fact that after buying a premium and overpriced machine, u still need to pay for extra features (cables...) which come standard in other laptops, even cheaper laptops
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There's no point in making comparisons to much cheaper Windows laptops. The only real Win laptop that I would consider to be in the same or similar class to the MBP are the T-series Thinkpads and they don't have an HDMI port either but guess what? They've got DisplayPort too!

Personally, I would find an ExpressCard slot far more useful than an HDMI port but that's best left for another thread.
 
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