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i never used the word "bad" in my thread lets get the facts right please.
That's right. You didn't. But you made this thread. And your OP reads like a typical tech blog tabloid. Should I assume you intended otherwise?
 
I've asked many times what has apple innovated besides Touch ID since Jobs died? Don't get me wrong I still love apple products, but they don't seem to be too innovative anymore.

It's very hard to measure innovation. Let's take Touch ID for example:
It's a great implementation. Fast, easy and reliable.
But it was not the first Fingerprint scanner on a phone. And they just bought the tech, before anyone else could use it.

So if Touch ID is innovation, i would say Apple pay is too. Because it is way faster, easier and more secure than what other Phone Payment Systems did before it.

Next on my list would be 3D Touch. Probably not the first either, but the deepest integration by far.
 
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Ultimately all that matters is the end user. If they don't like a product then don't buy it, and buy what does make you happy. If enough people feel the same way, then the product will be changed.
 
Judging by their revenue I think he'd be ok with their decisions.

What's the current biggest complaint now? How people can't get their new iPhones fast enough?
 
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Less is more. I wish they offered a $200-300 iPhone only made for texting, talking, and taking photos.

It would have no apps, no customizations, no headphone jacks, no speakers, no ability to play music or any of that nonsense. Just a very pure and simple raw phone made specifically for communication and nothing beyond that. It would be thinner and lighter and cheaper than the current iPhones. But it would still be an iPhone in the way it responds and feels. And the battery would last 1 week instead of 1 day.

Wishful thinking!
 
Steve probably would have lost interest in the iPhone and handed off to one of his operations guys (TC??!!) and moved on to dealing with something more exciting by now. Just like how Steve didn't have massive events dedicated to the iPods by the end of his life and left it in the hands of others at Apple.
 
do you think steve would have approved with using basically the same phone factor for 3 years now? what say you??

Come on... Will you guys ever get over the fact that while being dramatically better under the hood, it's looks quite similar? It's a great design after all and if you need your phone to brag around, you've got worse problems really...
 
do you think steve would have approved with using basically the same phone factor for 3 years now? what say you??

Do you think Abraham Lincoln would have approved? Steve is dead. Doesn't matter what he may have thought.
 
do you think steve would have approved with using basically the same phone factor for 3 years now? what say you??

Highly speculative questions deserve highly speculative answers lol:

I think so, perhaps not directly and he'd be willing to say even less so when you put it that way, but Steve understood the meticulousness of his image. He set up training curriculum and instilled a cult like sense of understanding around what an Apple product should be. I also feel that although he oversaw the release of some of the more popular devices still being reiterated today, he wasnt the direct "designer" or "builder" of any of these products. He was probably their most critical "tester" in these time frames, but I have a hard time believing the consumer would recognize the absence of his influence so subtly and in saying so I have a hard time believing he'd disapprove of the product stream postmortem so long as the foundational aura of his vision was the influence.
 
Yes, Because some things don't need a redesign that often. Design to solve problems, not aesthetics.
 
The current design I think is here to stay. They will do small changes though the years to it. This year they fixed the camera bump and made it looks part of the phone instead of a add on. They move the antenna bands to be less noticeable. They made the home button use the taptic engine.

How many different design iPhones can you have once you have reached this point. Today the Samsung phones all look pretty much the same. If you look at the S3, S4, S5 and S7 their only major appearance change is that it got less rounded.
 
In the end, no cell phone is an example of radical reinvention.

After all, you still listen through a speaker, and talk into a microphone. Same as we've been doing since 1876.

Change that, and we change everything. When I can think, and you hear my thoughts without me first speaking or typing, then we have something.
 
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So every time Apple does something that you don't like you can drag Steve Jobs into it and say Steve wouldn't have approved to validate your opinion!
 
I've asked many times what has apple innovated besides Touch ID since Jobs died? Don't get me wrong I still love apple products, but they don't seem to be too innovative anymore.

Apple Pay. Did it give rise to Google Pay and Samsung Pay? Or were they just the first to get their format out the door?

Taptic feedback replacing a moving trackpad was pretty innovative too.
 
Steve made mistakes too. Remember the 3rd gen iPod Shuffle? How about Ping? The iPod Hi-Fi?

Anyway, he's been dead for nearly 5 years. Why does it matter if he would have approved? And why does it matter that the phone has a similar appearance to last years phone? Macs look the same for years at a time, but they receive under the hood upgrades every year. Do you need a shiny new thing to show off so people know that you have the shiny new thing?


ummmm...the iPod Hi-Fi was bad ass!!!!
 
I'm pretty confident in saying that we would have a completely new design, new features and a new game changing product at this stage if Steve was still here. The iPhone 7 is not a iPhone 6/6S successor. It's no were near a bad device, just not a game changing device that you must own. If the previously cases are fitting your new phones we have a problem. I got a iPhone 7 plus case in the mail and it still has the damn headphone jack cutout!!!
If the Note 7 was not blowing up and if Samsung was serious about Android software (updates and speed) I wouldn't have gone with a 7 Plus. The Nexus line while great is starting to loose it's focus, my Nexus 6 still hasn't been updated to official Android N. Apple is extremely lucky this year.
 
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