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Are there aliens among us?

  • Absolutely not

    Votes: 51 26.7%
  • Doubt it very much

    Votes: 67 35.1%
  • Maybe, maybe not

    Votes: 34 17.8%
  • Probably

    Votes: 19 9.9%
  • Certainly

    Votes: 20 10.5%

  • Total voters
    191
I know - it's a brain ache isn't it :)

The universe is awesome :D

I think we are doing the Universe in physics soon :eek: Maybe it will make more sense then...
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On topic, why would aliens bother with us? The following image explains it nicely...
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EDIT: got the full quote:
Consider again that dot. That's here, that's home, that's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.
Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.
The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.
It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.
 
My brain nearly came out my ears after a recent conversation in Chemistry:

f space is always expanding, that means there must be a boundary. What is on the other side on that boundary? It can't be "space" because that is created by the expansion of the universe. It is "nothing", yet our definition of "nothing" is empty space which in the astronomy and physics world is "something"
Not really. There is no such thing as "empty space" within our universe. Every space within the universe is subject to gravitational forces or radiation of some kind."Beyond" the universe would mean beyond the range of any of the forces which affect the universe.
 
Of these three choices, the first one seems especially unlikely.
  1. Aliens have come to visit us and only us because in all of the universe we are unique and special.
  2. Aliens haven't visited.
  3. Aliens didn't pick us out as a tourist destination among all the choices in the vastness of space. Aliens visit most planets like ours!
If it's #3, how could aliens be in so many places when the distances and time required to navigate the universe would seem to prohibit it?

A few possibilities:
  1. Aliens in each area of space tend to visit the planets in their neighorhood.
  2. The time to travel to our planet is huge but that didn't stop aliens from making the journey. They just started very long ago.
  3. We are mistakenly speaking only from our own perspective, and time is different for aliens because of spacetime curvature, wormholes, other dimensions, or reasons we aren't capable of comprehending.
Obviously, taking lots of polls is a great way to get to a scientific answer. ;)
 
Another possibility of course is that we are aliens ourselves. A forerunner race might have planted the precursors of homo sapiens on several planets which had the right conditions to sustain air-breathing hominids.
 
On topic, why would aliens bother with us? The following image explains it nicely...

Obviously because its the only place in the entire universe where they can buy a big o iPod touch.

I'd most defiantly come here for that reason! :p
 
If it's #3, how could aliens be in so many places when the distances and time required to navigate the universe would seem to prohibit it?

A few possibilities:
  1. Aliens in each area of space tend to visit the planets in their neighorhood.
  2. The time to travel to our planet is huge but that didn't stop aliens from making the journey. They just started very long ago.
  3. We are mistakenly speaking only from our own perspective, and time is different for aliens because of spacetime curvature, wormholes, other dimensions, or reasons we aren't capable of comprehending.
Obviously, taking lots of polls is a great way to get to a scientific answer. ;)

Or Earth is programed as the top point of interest on alien tomtom's
 
Define "alien beings"?

I mean, I'm happily willing to entertain that we have microorganisms of extraterrestrial origin on the planet... or even that we evolved from extraterrestrial microbes.

But multicellular or intelligent creatures born elsewhere? Hiding themselves from us? Riiiiiiiight.....
 
I've seen Torchwood, so I'm pretty sure that there are aliens on Earth. Especially in the Cardiff area.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivOeugFS3K8&NR=1

Ahhhhh, wonderful.

I honestly really hope there's aliens out there, I don't know whether we'll be the ones to find them, or they'll be the ones to find us, but I really hope there is. The possibilities of what we could achieve would be endless. Unless it got all District 9, then it's just not cool.
 
The awesome pale blue dot image. I love it. I do talks to school kids sometimes, about the solarsystem - trying to get them to understand the size and scale of it (fairly small rocks, a very long way apart etc etc).

Then - I finish with that picture - taken about 12 light-hours from Earth, and switch to the Hubble Ultra Deep Field, with galaxies 12 billion light years away.

The ones that 'get' it - their faces are utterly priceless :)
 
Definitely, the Japanese!
No comment. :p

Another possibility of course is that we are aliens ourselves. A forerunner race might have planted the precursors of homo sapiens on several planets which had the right conditions to sustain air-breathing hominids.
Interesting thought.

We are mistakenly speaking only from our own perspective, and time is different for aliens because of spacetime curvature, wormholes, other dimensions, or reasons we aren't capable of comprehending.
I would say that you've hit the nail on the head regarding the human perspective.

We barely know our environment let alone space. As our knowledge increases, someday we may find out that light speed was like the sound barrier and that it is possible to go much faster.

Unfortunately, we are trapped by our own limited knowledge. :)
 
Interesting thought.
Yet, if we truly were aliens ourselves, we would expect to find organs or other identifiable traits not shared with any indigenous species, which of course we do not. There is no Ark big enough to have carried our entire ecosystem here.
 
I think we are doing the Universe in physics soon :eek: Maybe it will make more sense then...
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On topic, why would aliens bother with us? The following image explains it nicely...

Wow, that picture is like the Total Perspective Vortex put in an image. All it needs is the tiny little sign saying "You are here".
 
Another possibility of course is that we are aliens ourselves. A forerunner race might have planted the precursors of homo sapiens on several planets which had the right conditions to sustain air-breathing hominids.

Have you paid the fee for the OTIII level at your Scientology reading room already?
 
A few possibilities:
  1. Aliens in each area of space tend to visit the planets in their neighorhood.
  2. The time to travel to our planet is huge but that didn't stop aliens from making the journey. They just started very long ago.
  3. We are mistakenly speaking only from our own perspective, and time is different for aliens because of spacetime curvature, wormholes, other dimensions, or reasons we aren't capable of comprehending.
Obviously, taking lots of polls is a great way to get to a scientific answer. ;)
Or Einsteinian Physics is actually completely wrong and faster than light travel is not only possible, but heavily used by other galactic civilisations.
 
Or Einsteinian Physics is actually completely wrong and faster than light travel is not only possible, but heavily used by other galactic civilisations.

It won't be for another 53 years before some kid named Zefram Cochrane proves Einstein wrong.;)

Can't stand them aliens, warping to earth and mutilating my cows.:p I'm gonna build myself a big honking space gun to blow them outta the sky.:D
 
Certainly, but not like most here are thinking of it. No, I don't believe that there are beings from another planet, but I do believe there are angels and devils all around us. I believe that I am a spiritual being. Until Jesus comes back and renews the earth, I am an alien here. :cool:

So anyway, you said that if we are one, to let you know. Just figured I'd let you know. :p


You believe that?
Awesome,same here. :cool:
 
Or Einsteinian Physics is actually completely wrong and faster than light travel is not only possible, but heavily used by other galactic civilisations.

There could be forms of travel that aren't physical used by other beings. Possibly not useful for interaction, but useful for observation. But I'm also open to physical travel being possible faster than light - science in 2,000 years will be understood differently today, and many of our current understandings will be left behind.
 
Nobody can prove a negative. So I said I doubt it very much.

The only thing I can imagine is a small life form that can bear extreme temperature and pressure changes (for argument's sake let's say a water bear in the tung stage ... yes, look that one up) that flies in from debris from outer space. Theoretically, it's possible. But more likely to withstand the journey from another planet would be lichen or bacteria, somehow not as sexy as V. ;)

UFO's? Probably not.

I think in my lifetime the best we can come up with is some simple form of life elsewhere, most likely where there is a water source.
 
Mathematicians can ;)

Yeah, and many said, at the time, including math types, that going past the speed of sound will either kill the pilot or make them crazy (go mad).

Chuck Yeager passed what was long thought to be an impossible barrier to break in our atmosphere. He lived, and he isn't crazy.

I take that back, about the crazy part ... he did jump into the cockpit again many times to break his own speed records, all faster than the speed of sound. ;)
 
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