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Do you use anti-virus software on your Mac desktop/laptop?


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No, no, no!
Something that is a subset of a thing ("Virus falls under Malware definition.) is not equivalent ("=") to that thing.
It's also clear that you do not understand these basic mathematical principles.

It's clear you have no clue what you are saying.


https://www.comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/mac-security-privacy/

"Although many people think of all unwanted, damaging, and invasive programs as “viruses” the definition of these attacking programs has become refined into several different categories and the umbrella term for these damaging programs is “malware.”

Malware types include viruses, worms, Trojans, remote access Trojans, rootkits, spyware, adware, ransomware and botware."
 
It's clear you have no clue what you are saying.

"Although many people think of all unwanted, damaging, and invasive programs as “viruses” the definition of these attacking programs has become refined into several different categories and the umbrella term for these damaging programs is “malware.”
Actually, Gregg2 is saying the same thing that you just posted. A virus is only one type of malware. All forms of malware are not viruses. The text you quoted is also not accurate. The definition of these programs was not "refined into several different categories". The categories always existed. Nothing changed. It's just that those who were mistakenly referring to all malware as viruses are being educated that the umbrella term they were searching for has always been called "malware", not "viruses".

You have repeatedly demonstrated that you are the one who has no clue about what you're saying. For example:
I've been in IT for 30 years, and seen many MACs get viruses. ... Here is an example of a lady that had many on her MAC.
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1. They're Macs, not MACs. You demonstrate that you don't recognize the difference.
2. You haven't seen any Mac get viruses. You don't demonstrate that you know what a virus is.
3. The image you posted shows no viruses. You demonstrate that you think adware is the same as a virus.
4. The image you posted does not show "many", but rather one type of adware, not malware, with multiple variants. You demonstrate that you don't recognize adware, multiple variants or what constitutes real malware.

You have been asked repeatedly to prove your claim of a Mac virus, but you have not only failed to prove it, but now you don't even acknowledge the requests. You're avoiding the fact that your claim is false and you don't have enough integrity to acknowledge that you were wrong.

You claim to have 30 years of IT experience, making it sound like you're in some way superior to others, yet you dismiss others who have more experience than you.

You claim to be knowledgeable about this topic, but the "proof" you offer are links to ads by antivirus companies or outdated articles about malware that doesn't even work on today's Macs. You demonstrate that you don't recognize how to conduct real research from legitimate sources and you can't tell the difference between facts and advertisements.

Now, given all of that, why should anyone believe anything you have to say on this topic?
 
Ok, one more...
Admittedly, it's hard to prove a negative. (There is no virus affecting macOS.) But, it's quite simple to prove a positive. Viruses, like hurricanes, are given names. To prove that a virus exists that affects the macOS, just provide the name. No links, no long paragraphs, just the name. If true, we'll be able to search for other information.

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Ok, one more...
Admittedly, it's hard to prove a negative. (There is no virus affecting macOS.) But, it's quite simple to prove a positive. Viruses, like hurricanes, are given names. To prove that a virus exists that affects the macOS, just provide the name. No links, no long paragraphs, just the name. If true, we'll be able to search for other information.

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He will never, ever, do this.
 
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Nope. There are viruses for MacOS, but they're so few that you really don't have to worry about it. :)
As has been repeatedly stated in this thread and elsewhere, there are NO true viruses for macOS, and there never have been any in the wild. There are other forms of Mac malware in the wild and they're relatively rare, but no viruses.
 
You apparently haven't done much homework on this topic, other than relying on what a few biased AV software companies report. Malware on macOS is extremely rare. If you look at the numbers of infected Macs, it's a very tiny percentage of all the Macs in operation. Most Mac users will never encounter malware of any kind.

The screen capture you posted showed multiple versions of the same adware, which is relatively innocuous. Adware is more "annoyware" than "malware", since it doesn't usually cause the same level of problems caused by trojans, worms and virus malware. Adware is easily avoided or removed.


Nice post of 6-7 year old links. They prove my point about malware being rare on macOS. The Flashback trojan that the first article referred to affected an estimated 600,000 Macs, which is 0.75% of the estimated 80 million Macs in use at the time. That means that 79.4 million of the 80 million (99.25%) did NOT encounter the Flashback malware.

I’d have hated being in that 0.75% group. Sucked to be one of the 600,000....
 
One thing that amazes me about many of the users of this forum is utter denial that MacOS does have malicious attacks via malware, adware, trojans, and viruses. It is sad that many of them constantly repeat that nonsense and less technically inclined readers believe it. Tell a lie enough times and it starts sounding like the truth. Get your heads out of the sand if you are one of them.
[doublepost=1544853088][/doublepost]IdentityCrisis, keep fighting the good fight. Deep inside a few of them might know they are wrong, but have become too entrenched to reverse their belief.
[doublepost=1544853214][/doublepost]One more comment. lol.

Deniers, read my signature. It applies to you!
 
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One thing that amazes me about many of the users of this forum is utter denial that MacOS does have malicious attacks via malware, adware, trojans, and viruses. It is sad that many of them constantly repeat that nonsense and less technically inclined readers believe it. Tell a lie enough times and it starts sounding like the truth. Get your heads out of the sand if you are one of them.
[doublepost=1544853088][/doublepost]IdentityCrisis, keep fighting the good fight. Deep inside a few of them might know they are wrong, but have become too entrenched to reverse their belief.
[doublepost=1544853214][/doublepost]One more comment. lol.

Deniers, read my signature. It applies to you!
So... what are your top ten CVE-listed examples of Mac malware? And why is it necessary to use antimalware to defend against them?
 
I do ... just in case. I run Sophos AntiVirus Mac - it's free and i never even notice it running in background. Perfect win win situation. It occasionally quarantines an email with a virus so it does it's job. Try it.
https://home.sophos.com/download-mac-anti-virus
i do use sophos premium as antivirus on my mac, and like rododwards claim its running in the background without slowing down the system and its good to have a extra security cos step by step people use more and more macOs and give virusmakers more stimulans to build more malware for macOs .....
 
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