Do you use antivirus software?

Discussion in 'macOS Mojave (10.14)' started by donawalt, Nov 29, 2018.

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Do you use anti-virus software on your Mac desktop/laptop?

  1. Yes

    24.0%
  2. No

    76.0%
  1. Panthera Tigris Altaica macrumors member

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    #101
    Has it ever found a _Mac_ virus? Even once? I'm quite sure that it has found numerous _Windows_ viruses.
     
  2. IdentityCrisis Suspended

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    #102
    A Mac Virus = Malware. Virus falls under Malware definition.
     
  3. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    #103
    A virus is malware, but not all malware are viruses. It's clear you aren't well informed on this topic.

    A macOS virus = nonexistent.
     
  4. Gregg2 macrumors 603

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    #104
    No, no, no!
    Something that is a subset of a thing ("Virus falls under Malware definition.) is not equivalent ("=") to that thing.
    It's also clear that you do not understand these basic mathematical principles.
     
  5. IdentityCrisis Suspended

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    #105
    It's clear you have no clue what you are saying.


    https://www.comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/mac-security-privacy/

    "Although many people think of all unwanted, damaging, and invasive programs as “viruses” the definition of these attacking programs has become refined into several different categories and the umbrella term for these damaging programs is “malware.”

    Malware types include viruses, worms, Trojans, remote access Trojans, rootkits, spyware, adware, ransomware and botware."
     
  6. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    #106
    Actually, Gregg2 is saying the same thing that you just posted. A virus is only one type of malware. All forms of malware are not viruses. The text you quoted is also not accurate. The definition of these programs was not "refined into several different categories". The categories always existed. Nothing changed. It's just that those who were mistakenly referring to all malware as viruses are being educated that the umbrella term they were searching for has always been called "malware", not "viruses".

    You have repeatedly demonstrated that you are the one who has no clue about what you're saying. For example:
    1. They're Macs, not MACs. You demonstrate that you don't recognize the difference.
    2. You haven't seen any Mac get viruses. You don't demonstrate that you know what a virus is.
    3. The image you posted shows no viruses. You demonstrate that you think adware is the same as a virus.
    4. The image you posted does not show "many", but rather one type of adware, not malware, with multiple variants. You demonstrate that you don't recognize adware, multiple variants or what constitutes real malware.

    You have been asked repeatedly to prove your claim of a Mac virus, but you have not only failed to prove it, but now you don't even acknowledge the requests. You're avoiding the fact that your claim is false and you don't have enough integrity to acknowledge that you were wrong.

    You claim to have 30 years of IT experience, making it sound like you're in some way superior to others, yet you dismiss others who have more experience than you.

    You claim to be knowledgeable about this topic, but the "proof" you offer are links to ads by antivirus companies or outdated articles about malware that doesn't even work on today's Macs. You demonstrate that you don't recognize how to conduct real research from legitimate sources and you can't tell the difference between facts and advertisements.

    Now, given all of that, why should anyone believe anything you have to say on this topic?
     
  7. Gregg2 macrumors 603

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    #107
    Forum members, clearly someone has given "Individual 1" the URL to this forum. Twitter must be experiencing a lag. We're wasting our time, but this has been entertaining! :)
     
  8. IdentityCrisis Suspended

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    #108
    You mean you have nothing to back your statement up? Figures.
     
  9. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    #109
    You still haven't backed up any of your statements. We're all still waiting.
     
  10. Gregg2 macrumors 603

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    #110
    Ok, one more...
    Admittedly, it's hard to prove a negative. (There is no virus affecting macOS.) But, it's quite simple to prove a positive. Viruses, like hurricanes, are given names. To prove that a virus exists that affects the macOS, just provide the name. No links, no long paragraphs, just the name. If true, we'll be able to search for other information.

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  11. worldvga macrumors member

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    #111
    no have never used antivirus on mac and never felt its need even!!!!
     
  12. -=Hot|Ice=- macrumors newbie

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    #112
    Nope. There are viruses for MacOS, but they're so few that you really don't have to worry about it. :)
     
  13. Panthera Tigris Altaica macrumors member

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    He will never, ever, do this.
     
  14. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    #114
    As has been repeatedly stated in this thread and elsewhere, there are NO true viruses for macOS, and there never have been any in the wild. There are other forms of Mac malware in the wild and they're relatively rare, but no viruses.
     
  15. rukind2 macrumors member

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    #115
    I’d have hated being in that 0.75% group. Sucked to be one of the 600,000....
     
  16. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    #116
    It wasn't a major problem, as the malware was easily removed.
     
  17. nouveau_redneck macrumors member

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    #117
    One thing that amazes me about many of the users of this forum is utter denial that MacOS does have malicious attacks via malware, adware, trojans, and viruses. It is sad that many of them constantly repeat that nonsense and less technically inclined readers believe it. Tell a lie enough times and it starts sounding like the truth. Get your heads out of the sand if you are one of them.
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    IdentityCrisis, keep fighting the good fight. Deep inside a few of them might know they are wrong, but have become too entrenched to reverse their belief.
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    One more comment. lol.

    Deniers, read my signature. It applies to you!
     
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    #118
    So to be clear, if there is malware affecting Apple computers, what exactly does it do?
     
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    #119
    malware noun
    mal·ware | \ˈmal-ˌwer \
    Definition of malware
    : software designed to interfere with a computer's normal functioning
     
  20. OLDGUYWITHAHIFI Suspended

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    #120
    Thanks for the definition professor. So again, what does malware do to Apple computers? How are they affected?
     
  21. nouveau_redneck macrumors member

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    #121
    Don't be stubborn and go look it. He who seeks shall find. www.duckduckgo.com
     
  22. OLDGUYWITHAHIFI Suspended

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    #122
    Think outside the box. I have already done my research. Trying to understand what people here think Malware is doing to their Apple computers.

    Wisdom is not a product of schooling but of the lifelong attempt to acquire it.
     
  23. nouveau_redneck macrumors member

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    #123
    If you are looking for specifics, a good place to start might be to take a look at some of Patrick Wardles work. He does a lot of discovery and reverse engineering of malware.
     
  24. Panthera Tigris Altaica macrumors member

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    #124
    So... what are your top ten CVE-listed examples of Mac malware? And why is it necessary to use antimalware to defend against them?
     
  25. michel52 macrumors member

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    #125
    i do use sophos premium as antivirus on my mac, and like rododwards claim its running in the background without slowing down the system and its good to have a extra security cos step by step people use more and more macOs and give virusmakers more stimulans to build more malware for macOs .....
     

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