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iPhone 11 Pro Do you use "Photos Capture Outside the Frame"?

Benz63amg

Benz63amg

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Is there any downside to using this feature? it came useful a dozen of times where i zoomed out while editing many of the photos i took with my 11 Pro on a recent hiking trip and when i zoomed out the massive wide image that came as a result was much nicer than the original photo i shot within the standard 4:3 frame. Does the iPhone basically "stitch" the original photo that was taken with my iPhone's 11 Pro's main lens along with image data that was captured by the ultra wide lens while taking the photo and its all basically stitched together?

How does it work for videos? (I dont see a way of editing a video to reveal out of frame data captured during a Video recording)
 
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Benz63amg said:
Is there any downside to using this feature? it came useful a dozen of times where i zoomed out while editing many of the photos i took with my 11 Pro on a recent hiking trip and when i zoomed out the massive wide image that came as a result was much nicer than the original photo i within the standard 4:3 frame. Does the iPhone basically "stitch" the original photo that was taken with my iPhone's 11 Pro's main lens along with image data that was captured by the ultra wide lens while taking the photo and its all basically stitched together?

How does it work videos? (I dont see a way of editing a video to reveal out of frame data captured during a Video recording)
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It will need to be switched off for deep fusion to work when it’s released...i have it switched off for photo and video.
 
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The Game 161 said:
It will need to be switched off for deep fusion to work when it’s released...i have it switched off for photo and video.
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where did you get the info that in order for deep fusion to work capture outside of frame needs to be disabled? I don’t see such a claim anywhere else
 
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where did you get the info that in order for deep fusion to work capture outside of frame needs to be disabled? I don’t see such a claim anywhere else
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It's a fact. Verified by multiple sources. There's a great episode of Connected from RelayFM where Federico Viticci explains the whole thing
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How do you tell if a photo you’ve taken with the 11 Pro is a deep fusion photo, I don’t see any deep fusion indicator and I tried shooting several shots. (I disabled capture out of frame)
 
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There is no indicator.

If you go to the preview immediately after taking a photo, you can see the result "glitching".
 
Why do I need to basically compromise and choose between Deep fusion and “Capture Outside Frame” (Which I love). This makes absolutely no sense.

does “Smart HDR” also needs to be disabled for Deep Fusion to work?
 
Benz63amg said:
Why do I need to basically compromise and choose between Deep fusion and “Capture Outside Frame” (Which I love). This makes absolutely no sense.

does “Smart HDR” also needs to be disabled for Deep Fusion to work?
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Watch the video mentioned above - it explains. Everyone agrees that the user experience sucks, in its current state. Personally, I think it should be a toggle to prioritize Deep Fusion over Capture Outside the Frame, so you can get either one, every time. But that's not the way it works.

And no, Smart HDR does not need to be off.
 
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Watch the video mentioned above - it explains. Everyone agrees that the user experience sucks, in its current state. Personally, I think it should be a toggle to prioritize Deep Fusion over Capture Outside the Frame, so you can get either one, every time. But that's not the way it works.

And no, Smart HDR does not need to be off.
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I checked with Apple support and apparently you don’t need to turn off anything
 

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Wackery said:
I checked with Apple support and apparently you don’t need to turn off anything
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Cool. She's wrong, unfortunately (I just checked it again) but those were nice words.

Edit: She was partially correct, anyway. Deep Fusion is NOT something that can be enabled or disabled manually. Unless you enable "Capture Outside the Frame," which DOES disable Deep Fusion.
 
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Cool. She's wrong, unfortunately (I just checked it again) but those were nice words.
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what did you check? I just legitimately want to know, with an actual document. the preview 'glitching' is hardly an indication of anything, I have outside the frame on and I see the 'deep fusion glitching'. but is it actually doing anything?
 
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what did you check? I just legitimately want to know, with an actual document. the preview 'glitching' is hardly an indication of anything, I have outside the frame on and I see the 'deep fusion glitching'. but is it actually doing anything?
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I just took a few pictures, with COtF enabled/disabled. The difference is obvious. When COtF is enabled, the text on the AirPods case is illegible. When COtF is disabled, the text is legible.

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Sorry, the forums compress the images too much to tell the difference. On the iPhone, the originals are very clearly different.
 
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I just took a few pictures, with COtF enabled/disabled. The difference is obvious. When COtF is enabled, the text on the AirPods case is illegible. When COtF is disabled, the text is legible.

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Sorry, the forums compress the images too much to tell the difference. On the iPhone, the originals are very clearly different.
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I guess that proves it right there and then. This is absolutely absurd. Why in the world should i have to pick ONE of these 2 excellent iPhone 11 Camera features (COtF and Deep Fusion)
 
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Don’t see any difference with having photos capture outside the frame and deep fusion maybe this was a beta thing but I don’t see any differences between photos with option on or off.
 
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I guess that proves it right there and then. This is absolutely absurd. Why in the world should i have to pick ONE of these 2 excellent iPhone 11 Camera features (COtF and Deep Fusion)
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Yes, that's exactly what everyone who's been testing 13.1 has been saying for the past month.

Like I said, Apple could easily remedy this by making it a toggle that says Prioritize Deep Fusion or something, so that it does COtF unless it's a Deep Fusion shot (and maybe a Deep Fusion indicator so we know when it's disabling COtF) ...
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IamScotty said:
Don’t see any difference with having photos capture outside the frame and deep fusion maybe this was a beta thing but I don’t see any differences between photos with option on or off.
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Remember, Deep Fusion only works in very specific lighting conditions. If it's too bright, it'll do Smart HDR. Too dark, and it'll go into Night Mode. But in between those two, Deep Fusion kicks in.

Basically what I do to test it is to take a picture with COtF disabled, using the 2x optical zoom (since the aperture of that lens is smaller, it's more likely to use Deep Fusion as the sensor is receiving less light than the wide lens) preferably indoors with a room light on. Or outdoors, as long as it's not bright. Take the picture, tap the preview to see it 'glitch' once the Deep Fusion processing is done, then pop into settings, enable COtF and go back to take the same picture again. Zoom in, and you should be able to see the difference.
 
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Apple putting out a Great Feature and there’s too many questions on how to use it properly
Time for the Pros to explain
 
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Apple putting out a Great Feature and there’s too many questions on how to use it properly
Time for the Pros to explain
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The point of deep fusion is it is just there in the background. It doesn't need or require user thinking. It only applies it when it needs to.
 
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