Neither are qualifications and intelligence. Some of the people I graduated with were as thick as dried-out treacle, yet still managed to achieve letters after their names.
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Do you want/have children?
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Yeah - well - I say what I mean
I say what comes to my mind
I never get around to things
I live a straight - straight line
You know me - I'm acting dumb
you know the scene - very humdrum
boredom - boredom
boredom
I'm living in this movie
but it doesn't move me
I'm the man that's waiting for the phone to ring
Hear it ring-a-ding-a-****ing-ding
You know me - I'm acting dumb
you know the scene - very humdrum
boredom - boredom
BOREDOM
You see there's nothing behind me
I'm already a has-been
my future ain't what it was
well I think I know the words that I mean
You know me - I'm acting dumb
you know the scene - very humdrum
boredom - boredom
B'dum - b'dum
I've taken this extravagant journey
so it seems to me
I just came from nowhere
and I'm going straight back there
You know me - I'm acting dumb
you know the scene - very humdrum
boredom - boredom
I have a beautiful daughter, and I couldn't imagine life without her.
But just remember three things...
(1) Parenthood is the HARDEST job you'll ever have.
(2) It is a job that you can't quit and there are no breaks.
(3) It has the best fringe benefits of any job in the world!
That being said... I love being a Dad.
But just remember three things...
(1) Parenthood is the HARDEST job you'll ever have.
(2) It is a job that you can't quit and there are no breaks.
(3) It has the best fringe benefits of any job in the world!
That being said... I love being a Dad.
I don't seem to recall implying that they would/should.
However, like most things, the values that are important to you can be easily impressed onto your children, which is what the original poster was most concerned with since environmental impact is very important to him.
There are plenty of First World children who don't know the difference. Remember that in America, it's very easy to ignore science and common sense (which is why the Earth is only 6,000 years old and being gay is a choice
).
Straight guy, too young for kids. I'm undecided for the most part. I guess that would be up to my wife and I whether we have kids or not. I'm leaning towards yes but I am still not 100% sure.
It's funny though. When I was younger (about 16, 17) I hated kids and couldn't stand being around them. Then my cousin had her daughter and now I can't wait to see the little devil... I guess certain life changes such as this will change anyone's desire for having kids. Which is why I went from hating little kids to tolerating those who are related to me.
It's funny though. When I was younger (about 16, 17) I hated kids and couldn't stand being around them. Then my cousin had her daughter and now I can't wait to see the little devil...
I guess certain life changes such as this will change anyone's desire for having kids. Which is why I went from hating little kids to tolerating those who are related to me.My body has developed into lots of things, having children is quite possibly the least of my concerns about my body at the moment. Oh, and I'm sterile. Hah.
Exactly, I can't ever foresee that particular conversation happening between my spouse. Its the values which are important. I try to be as environmentally conscious as I can be in my daily life and I hope to instil those values into my children. However, I am certainly not doing the world a favour by contributing to overpopulation, which is exactly the reason why one from my own genes is enough for my satisfaction. This sounds crude, but if you can't feed them, don't breed them.
I'm a huge fan of adoption, as more people in the world should be. There's already too many children born to parents who can't provide them basic needs. If my future spouse and I can help out with that problem, even if only a little bit, then we'll have a happy family.
This brings up a question that I've always had, and have been thinking about throughout the course of this discussion.
I think adoption is a wonderful thing as well, and it's definitely not out of the question for my wife and I.
My wife works very close with children that are developmentally delayed, most of which are in foster care waiting to be adopted. This brings me to my question:
Of those here that are pro-adoption, would you balk at the idea of adopting a child with a developmental shortcoming? I'm talking anything from full-blown autism to mental retardation to a simple developmental delay that can be overcome with extra tutelage.
Personally I would find it very difficult to knowingly put myself in that sort of situation. But the sad thing is these kids are (usually) incredibly loving and wonderful children that just need a little extra attention. These children deserve a loving family just as much as anyone else.
So could you do that? Could you adopt a child with special needs?
i have two beautiful daughters and they are the center of my world. they can also be the bane of my existence tho too!
I know this sounds horrible, but I don't think I could.
Does that make me a bad person?
I know this sounds horrible, but I don't think I could.
Does that make me a bad person?
No- it makes you self-aware.
I still feel guilty for feeling that way though. It implies that my love is somehow conditional.
I still feel guilty for feeling that way though. It implies that my love is somehow conditional.
No- it simply means you know your limits. That's a good thing, not bad.
Yea, some parents just can't cope with disabled children. Some parents can barely cope with "abled" children.
But to the bigger topic at hand. I sometimes worry that when me and my girlfriend are ready for kids, that we'll get more than just 1. Twins run in my family and she's a triplet. I've tried looking around and it's hard to find out if this kind of thing is heredity.
You don't know your limits, until it happens to you. Then, all of a sudden, you realise your limits were imaginary after all. The return on the investment is unbelievable.
All three of our adopted children have special needs. My 5 year old daughter had a cleft lip and palate, which were repaired in China. My 7-year old son had an upper spinal growth diagnosed as Spina Bifida, which was removed in China. My 14-year old daughter, who was 13 when we met her in China, also has Spina Bifida. She uses crutches to walk and has a few other minor issues.
Granted, as my 14-year old son has cerebral palsy and uses a wheelchair, our house was already handicap-accessible.
skunk- look at all the people who don't know what they should or shouldn't do, and don't know their limits. Plenty of people shouldn't have kids- others should. What you're saying works for many people, but certainly not all.
Are you going to tell me that every adult is capable of raising kids? Sorry, but that's just not true- look around. Look at all the abused and neglected kids out there. Look at all the kids in foster care who can't find families. Hell, all I have to do is walk down Belmont Ave or North Ave here in Chicago to see the results of people who never should have had kids in the first place. Homeless teens are all over the place hustling on those streets. Many of them are gay kids who got kicked out of their houses. I'm sorry, but when I see s*** like this on a daily basis, how can you possibly make the argument that anybody can raise a kid? It's not true- and to say so is simply wrong.
You want my criteria? You want kids- you're responsible for them until they can support themselves. You toss your kid out of the house at a helplessly young age, you should go to prison for life. Satisfied?
I'm not saying that anybody can raise a child, I'm saying that those here who say they could not raise a child with special needs may well be underestimating their own resources.
You are clearly not afraid to test your own resources!Aeolius said: