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My iPad 4 USED TO run super smooth. :(
iOS 7.1.1 must be Apple's attempt at an Android emulator, because my iPad is now as laggy and unresponsive as the Android tablets I've owned. :eek:

My sister whom I visited this past weekend has a 4. I used it on and off for a few hours and that was not my experience. It was running 7.1.1.
 
I'm deciding whether to buy an ipad air now or later.
The only reason I was waiting for the next generation was because of RAM.
I'll be using it heavily to view textbooks (>500 pages in PDF) and I'll also be using it to watch videos on youtube.

Do you think 1GB will not cause any problems on me?

My iPad Air runs flawlessly. I'd say that, given the trend of late-October announcements, either buy right now, or wait. Then again, there's a great third option in Apple Certified Refurbished models for the iPad Air (or fourth generation iPad for that matter), which Apple will sell long past the current iPad Air's replacement model's launch. Textbooks and YouTube will be more than fine on the iPad Air, let alone fourth generation iPad, let alone third generation iPad.
 
iPad 2 all over again?

One thing to take away with finally getting 2GB of RAM is that the next iPad might last a bit more (in terms of software update) than current 1GB iterations in their lifetime. Look at iPad 2 when it got 2x more RAM (given it has the same resolution as first gen iPad). Now 2x RAM with same retina-display specs *MIGHT* make the next iPad stick around for a lot longer so I suggest you wait for it.

P.S. 1. based the suggestion on multi-window multitasking feature rumor also. 2. CPU upgrades is pretty much given so I did not base my suggestion on that.
 
What am I missing

The OP is talking about ONE(1) gig for memory..... whats the deal when the smallest iPad Air has SIXTEEN(16) gig?

Not saying the problem he indicates does or does not exist... just confused about the "1gig" statement
 
The OP is talking about ONE(1) gig for memory..... whats the deal when the smallest iPad Air has SIXTEEN(16) gig?

Not saying the problem he indicates does or does not exist... just confused about the "1gig" statement

RAM and storage are not the same thing. The OP is talking about the 1GB of RAM that current-model iPads come with. This is the memory used to actually run programs, load files in for viewing and editing, etc.

This is completely different from the 16GB+ of storage that an iPad comes equipped with. Just like a computer hard drive or SSD, you can store apps, files and other media on this storage, but the iPad doesn't actively run programs and directly manipulate data in this space.

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Now 2x RAM with same retina-display specs *MIGHT* make the next iPad stick around for a lot longer so I suggest you wait for it.

Having more or less RAM isn't necessarily going to make a generation of iPad "stick around a lot longer." There are desktop class operating systems that can run fine on 1GB of RAM or less. It's not unrealistic to think and expect that the same can be true of iOS.

The problem here is, and continues to be, inefficient coding and use of available resources. The iOS developers can and should do better. Throwing more RAM at the problem will certainly be a quick fix, but I guarantee you that without any effort at Apple to make the developers manage resources better, it won't be long before people will bellyache that their iPad Air 6S with 12-core i7 and 32GB of RAM is reloading tabs and is "underpowered."
 
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Having more or less RAM isn't necessarily going to make a generation of iPad "stick around a lot longer." There are desktop class operating systems that can run fine on 1GB of RAM or less. It's not unrealistic to think and expect that the same can be true of iOS.

The problem here is, and continues to be, inefficient coding and use of available resources. The iOS developers can and should do better. Throwing more RAM at the problem will certainly be a quick fix, but I guarantee you that without any effort at Apple to make the developers manage resources better, it won't be long before people will bellyache that their iPad Air 6S with 12-core i7 and 32GB of RAM is reloading tabs and is "underpowered."

I agree. Apple needs to optimize iOS to use resources more efficiently. With the iWatch rumored to run full iOS, I am thinking Apple will do just that, because standby battery life is heavily dependent on RAM.
 
RAM and storage are not the same thing. The OP is talking about the 1GB of RAM that current-model iPads come with. This is the memory used to actually run programs, load files in for viewing and editing, etc.

This is completely different from the 16GB+ of storage that an iPad comes equipped with. Just like a computer hard drive or SSD, you can store apps, files and other media on this storage, but the iPad doesn't actively run programs and directly manipulate data in this space.

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Having more or less RAM isn't necessarily going to make a generation of iPad "stick around a lot longer." There are desktop class operating systems that can run fine on 1GB of RAM or less. It's not unrealistic to think and expect that the same can be true of iOS.

The problem here is, and continues to be, inefficient coding and use of available resources. The iOS developers can and should do better. Throwing more RAM at the problem will certainly be a quick fix, but I guarantee you that without any effort at Apple to make the developers manage resources better, it won't be long before people will bellyache that their iPad Air 6S with 12-core i7 and 32GB of RAM is reloading tabs and is "underpowered."

Yes! You seem to get it. This is a correctable problem that unfortunately apple hasn't heard enough about to deal with quickly. I'd think they'd get a new version of safari out there ASAP with better memory management and the sorts.
 
Having more or less RAM isn't necessarily going to make a generation of iPad "stick around a lot longer." There are desktop class operating systems that can run fine on 1GB of RAM or less. It's not unrealistic to think and expect that the same can be true of iOS.

The problem here is, and continues to be, inefficient coding and use of available resources. The iOS developers can and should do better. Throwing more RAM at the problem will certainly be a quick fix, but I guarantee you that without any effort at Apple to make the developers manage resources better, it won't be long before people will bellyache that their iPad Air 6S with 12-core i7 and 32GB of RAM is reloading tabs and is "underpowered."

Oh, I know about optimisation and stuff, My point is on the viability side of things as a consumer who plans to use the iPad for a long time.

For developers, I know they need to do better but they can only do so much before hardware limitations become hardware limitations. Again, Apple will know these since they have phased out a lot of devices (for software updates) that they feel are not up to snuff.
 
Having more or less RAM isn't necessarily going to make a generation of iPad "stick around a lot longer." There are desktop class operating systems that can run fine on 1GB of RAM or less. It's not unrealistic to think and expect that the same can be true of iOS.

The problem here is, and continues to be, inefficient coding and use of available resources. The iOS developers can and should do better. Throwing more RAM at the problem will certainly be a quick fix, but I guarantee you that without any effort at Apple to make the developers manage resources better, it won't be long before people will bellyache that their iPad Air 6S with 12-core i7 and 32GB of RAM is reloading tabs and is "underpowered."
ask the iPad 1 owners if they think their iPads would be more useful with twice the memory. And that is with apple freezing them at a certain os.

Also, if we get true multitasking in ios8, you better believe then next iPad will get 2gigs of ram. And at that point, you will quickly see why apple decided for planned obsolescence with the air. It simply won't cut the mustard.

So OP, YES YES 1000 times yes - wait for the next version.
 
ask the iPad 1 owners if they think their iPads would be more useful with twice the memory.

You could ask ANYONE, with ANY platform, "hey, would you rather have twice the RAM for the same price, or are you cool with keeping your old 'n busted system?" And of course they're gonna say yes! This, and comparing an iPad Air to an iPad 1st gen, is a total straw man argument.

The topic at hand here is, can the iPad Air be supported for the typical Apple iOS version cycle without its users being shortchanged on lifespan? The answer is absolutely, yes.

The OP needs to make his decision based on what he wants to do with an iPad, and whether he's willing to wait. Chasing rumors isn't going to get us anywhere, especially if the rumors, particularly about multitasking, ultimately don't pan out.

Even if he doesn't wait, gets an iPad Air now, and STILL decides to upgrade again later, the existing iPad Air he ends up getting will still have a resale value, and he'll be able to get a decent amount out of it in sell-back towards an upgrade. Even iPad 1st Gens still have resale values that make re-sale worth the effort, even though support from Apple is long gone.
 
No. 1GB of RAM is totally useless for anything and everything.

The current iPad Airs are quite simply the biggest heist in history. $500 paperweights, as Tim Cook and the cast of Ocean's Eleven sip cocktails on piles of money. It was all just a brilliant ruse.
 
No. 1GB of RAM is totally useless for anything and everything.

The current iPad Airs are quite simply the biggest heist in history. $500 paperweights, as Tim Cook and the cast of Ocean's Eleven sip cocktails on piles of money. It was all just a brilliant ruse.

Am currently reading this forum and writing this post on the supposed paperweight. Talk about exaggeration... :rolleyes:
 
The topic at hand here is, can the iPad Air be supported for the typical Apple iOS version cycle without its users being shortchanged on lifespan? The answer is absolutely, yes.

I will make sure to revisit this statement after WWDC. ;)

Because if certain ios8 items are correct, the iPad 3 owners are going to have a lot in common with the air owners.
 
I'm deciding whether to buy an ipad air now or later.
The only reason I was waiting for the next generation was because of RAM.
I'll be using it heavily to view textbooks (>500 pages in PDF) and I'll also be using it to watch videos on youtube.

Do you think 1GB will not cause any problems on me?

The problem is the larg PDF !
I think it will lags
But YouTube videos should not be a trouble
:D
 
I read 300+ page, heavily-illustrated PDFs on my iPad 1, with 256mb RAM. I wouldn't say it's a perfect experience, but it's perfectly do-able. That makes me think 1gb should be fine for a PDF twice that size.

Of course, someone else will counter that their iPad Air with 1gb RAM crashes constantly, and there's no reason to doubt it. There are too many variables in computing device usage to isolate this kind of thing to RAM alone - number of running apps, background processes, buggy code, etc. Any computing device, up to the largest, fastest supercomputer, can be overburdened. No mortal has build anything that has infinite capacity.

I'm quite confident that, if Apple does introduce split-screen multitasking in iOS 8, that it will run decently on 1gb RAM (and run even better on 2gb, of course). Apple has a long history of making major new features available to several generations of devices. It's just good business - if current owners can't have the newest goodies (within reason), then they're not particularly enthusiastic evangelists for the product. Is there anyone here who thinks that "You have to buy a new iPad to use split-screen" would go over well, with anyone? Why, then, would Apple do that?

When it's obvious that the new feature requires new hardware (front and back cameras added to iPad 2 in order to have FaceTime, Retina-quality graphics, Touch ID sensor...), people understand. When it simply requires a bit more RAM, nobody will be understanding - people have been moaning about RAM bloat for decades.

Apple's been careful to keep a lid on iOS RAM. They'd rather discipline their developers than disappoint tens of millions of end-users (or get into an arms race with a competitor that makes its own chips). And if Apple's message at WWDC is, "If you want your apps to operate in split-screen, you'll have to tighten-up your code," the developer's response is going to be, "Fine, as long as we can sell our split-screen-capable apps to a large customer base."
 
ask the iPad 1 owners if they think their iPads would be more useful with twice the memory. And that is with apple freezing them at a certain os.

Also, if we get true multitasking in ios8, you better believe then next iPad will get 2gigs of ram. And at that point, you will quickly see why apple decided for planned obsolescence with the air. It simply won't cut the mustard.
The latest consumer research revealed that people don't upgrade their iPads as frequently as they upgrade their iPhones. I'm confident that Apple has seen that and is adjusting to that reality. If so, I would expect to see improvements made at a slower pace... which would result in longer usable life of a particular generation of iPad.

I think it will also mean that they'll have to be more conservative in their forced-march upgrade philosophy. They can no longer rely on customers simply upgrading to the latest gen simply because the latest version of iOS has degraded the ownership experience.

So OP, YES YES 1000 times yes - wait for the next version.
I agree.
 
I purchased the premium addition of GLO Bible (5 concurrent users). I installed it on a few PCs, Yoga 13 (Win 8 w/ 8GB ram), and my iPad 3.

The iPad version is just a subset of the full functionality of the Windows version ( https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/bible-+/id403758876?mt=8 ).

The iPad has no issue with flipping through pages within the Bible. However, the virtual tours, some of the multi-media videos, and just scrolling sideways through the picture thumbnails really bog down on the iPad to the point of being unusable (jerky screen gives me motion sickness). I would think 2GBs of ram would really improve the smoothness. My Yoga 13 (w/ 8GB ram) is smooth in all sections.
 
The latest consumer research revealed that people don't upgrade their iPads as frequently as they upgrade their iPhones. I'm confident that Apple has seen that and is adjusting to that reality. If so, I would expect to see improvements made at a slower pace... which would result in longer usable life of a particular generation of iPad.

I think it will also mean that they'll have to be more conservative in their forced-march upgrade philosophy. They can no longer rely on customers simply upgrading to the latest gen simply because the latest version of iOS has degraded the ownership experience.

Yes, apple has adjusted by making sure the iPad does NOT last as long - see 1gig of ram in the air, with it being know that iOS 8 will have multitasking. Planned obsolescence.
 
Yes, apple has adjusted by making sure the iPad does NOT last as long - see 1gig of ram in the air, with it being know that iOS 8 will have multitasking. Planned obsolescence.

Right. Last year, everyone knew the rumor that iOS 8 might support split screen multitasking, and we all should have agreed to hold off on our purchases until late Fall 2014.
 
Right. Last year, everyone knew the rumor that iOS 8 might support split screen multitasking, and we all should have agreed to hold off on our purchases until late Fall 2014.

when the ipad support split screen multitasking, i can bet ppl gona complain about the battery. haha
 
Am currently reading this forum and writing this post on the supposed paperweight. Talk about exaggeration... :rolleyes:

That would make two of us. It was blatant sarcasm pointing out the absurdity of the idea that a flagship device like the Air wouldn't run smoothly, or would be underpowered out of the gate. Yeah, it's only 1GB RAM, but it's also iOS, which isn't exactly an intensive operating system.

I mean. C'mon dude. I made an Oceans Eleven reference. It was clearly sarcasm. ;)
 
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