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Professionals usually hold off on OS upgrades for exactly this reason.

had my MBP not crashed recently and fried my old drive, I would have definitely stayed with SL simply due to fears of upgrading. as a professional, relying solely on my computer (and thus operating system and programs) I strongly steer away from upgrades, no matter how awesome they might be, for at least for a year or two.

I simply cannot afford to lose the functionality of application nor can I afford to suddenly pay for upgrades. not to mention the slough of other small programs I use to help my work that I got off the internet for a buck or two, that certainly will not be in compliance.

it's idiotic to expect applications and operating systems to all be on the same wave length.

though since we're ranting on this thread.. for no other good reason but just ranting, it took me a few days to figure out how to turn off the stupid, idiotic, ********n(!!) retarded, way of sorting emails into conversations in Mail in Lion. wish they would make two versions of Mail: one for working professionals who need to actively manage their inbox and archive emails. and the other for the house wives who receive only the wanted emails from people they are expecting to receive them from.

Mail completely ignores the fact that while the email may have come from the same sender (uh-oh, same company!), that the recipients email address is completely different on each one. Thus hiding new emails under months of old emails pertaining to a completely different matter. even the sorting within those conversations is illogical. Just because gmail did it, wish Apple would be smart enough NOT to follow google's idiotic suit.

In fact, let's rant more. my biggest issues with my mac and working smoothly on one, relying on it to run my business has always been the piss poor job apple does when it comes to integrating with gmail (and google) and the MAIL application in general.

I have always had issues with getting my mail, sending mail, having weird issues like supposedly the password/username is suddenly incorrect, or the server is suddenly offline. and don't you dare to run your gmail into your iPhone cause before you know it, you just have to change your email address because the iPhone will reject it permanently. This has happened.

Not to mention the new slough of problems happening with the mail integration in Lion. It blows me away that with all the fantastic functionality of a Mac as a working professional's computer, that Apple continually chooses to ignore such a fundamental part of business communication as MAIL!!??? when I was still under applecare (and was naive enough to actually call them) and spent several hours on the phone trying to fix these problems with my mail, I was told by Apple that the problems I am having "do not exist", but I could find lots of people with the same problem by simply googling the issue.

sorry, I ranted.
 
sorry, I ranted.

I know I can be accused of saying the same anti-Lion things over and over but I don't really think that Lion is designed for the professional or power user. If you look at the the way scrolling, scroll bars, Mail, Launchpad, /user/library and a whole host of other things work Lion is clearly designed for a certain kind of user.

That user would be the casual, newbie or non-technical person working with a small screen and a touch pad. That user just wants things "to work" in the manner that Apple does so well.

In that sense Lion is a really nice OS. Unfortunately for some of us Apple has managed to damage the desktop computing experience. Let's face it, that's Apple's M.O. They tend to blast what they consider "the old" away and replace it with that which they belive to be "the new". That's just the way it is for better or for worse.
 
I think these so called "power users" are forgetting what Mac is for. As someone who has done tech support in the past I can tell you this - "power users" like to fiddle with their machines far more than is necessary. They overload their machines with cache cleaning utilities, process managers, reinstall their OS every few months, mucking with system files all the time, etc. And guess which users have the most problems with their machines - yep, power users. Those that learn how to use their Mac, and just let the OS work rather than trying to "game the system", and only use the apps required for their job and leisure have far less trouble. Yep, Apple is definitely not catering to this type of user.

Most professionals do not need to move items in and out of their Library folder several times per day. And the few that do would be better served by automating it with scripts or Automator actions. Hiding the Library folder is a big non-issue.

And honestly, what's the point of complaining about LaunchPad if you think it's for novices? Don't use it if you don't like it.

None of the complaints I've read here can be attributed as the loss of "professional" features. Some ike the old way, some like the new way. Features evolve - either learn to use them, or stay with the old OS.

I also notice that the those complaining Lion is not for professionals are ignoring the increased security, performance, and stability improvements under the hood. I would think the true professionals would be happy with that.
 
I think these so called "power users" are forgetting what Mac is for. As someone who has done tech support in the past I can tell you this - "power users" like to fiddle with their machines far more than is necessary.

Me thinks that you confuse "fiddlers" with true power users. A true power user is not one who is going to delete system files or fiddle with registry cleaners etc.

The MAC is by definition NOT for a true power user in the business world. It works fine for those who want to fiddle with video, photographs and music and do not know how to cleanly install or uninstall software under Windows 7.

Windows 7 is a different world from Snow Leopard and Lion, designed for document collaboration amongst others. Have not yet found proper data warehouse or data mining software under MAC that works fine with a large data base in a commercial environment. OS X is an OS that is designed for stand alone and home use.

I genuinely tried it because I have some gripes with MSN too but it just won't run the stuff I need to do , the software just does not exist in OS X. At this moment windows 7 is the lesser of the two evils and hence I am doing everything to enable it to run as long as possible on my present platform. (Mac mini mid 2010)
 
  • "Change the order of the devices" - you serious? Drag and drop.
  • "make all scrollbars appear all the time" - System Preferences > General
  • "unhide ALL newly hidden folders - i want access to them" - chflags nohidden ~/Library/ in Terminal. Or just use the Go menu...:rolleyes:
  • "make all task bar icons smaller" - System Preferences > General if you mean the sidebar icons
  • "permanently disable or prevent the annoying file locking feature " - System Preferences > Time Machine > Options > Uncheck "Lock documents

You can also delete the Recovery Partition. Just search.

I wonder if you even bothered to Google these things. Or maybe you're more interested in complaining than actually solving your problems.

You just made my own Lion experience far more pleasant, thanks. I might just learn to like it.:p
 
Me thinks that you confuse "fiddlers" with true power users. A true power user is not one who is going to delete system files or fiddle with registry cleaners etc.

The MAC is by definition NOT for a true power user in the business world. It works fine for those who want to fiddle with video, photographs and music and do not know how to cleanly install or uninstall software under Windows 7.

Windows 7 is a different world from Snow Leopard and Lion, designed for document collaboration amongst others. Have not yet found proper data warehouse or data mining software under MAC that works fine with a large data base in a commercial environment. OS X is an OS that is designed for stand alone and home use.

I genuinely tried it because I have some gripes with MSN too but it just won't run the stuff I need to do , the software just does not exist in OS X. At this moment windows 7 is the lesser of the two evils and hence I am doing everything to enable it to run as long as possible on my present platform. (Mac mini mid 2010)

I would have to write a billion word post just to describe how untrue this is.
 
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Lion is awesome. Stop making up excuses.

You stop using it blindly it's far from awesome.
 
Just got a new 27" iMac with it. Moved from a 24" that I didn't upgrade.

Love the new Mail, especially conversations.
Love Safari back/forward swiping.
Love swiping through desktops.
Love full-screen apps.
Love the new reading list in Safari. Yes this isn't new to Lion only.

But being new to the 27" iMac I wish there was a way to control default text sizes. All my Safari tabs and Mail text is so small on this screen. I really need resolution independence. I suppose I could change my resolution. But I just want certain elements of text larger.

And I want more control over Mission Control. Arranging desktops the way I want to. Not the auto-arrange thing.
 
OK.. How you..

..ask before making a hidden partition on MY hard-drive.
..permanently delete said hidden partition?
..where did my Linux partition go?

..change/customise the order in which devices appear in the sidebar?
..stop the thing from bouncing when I'm scrolling.
..make all scrollbars appear, all the time and add some colour?
..unhide ALL newly hidden folders - i want access to them!!
..make all task bar icons smaller!!

..permanently prevent QT from blanking all my screen when in full screen?
..permanently disable or prevent the annoying file locking feature

..force iChat to connect - lots of errors
..why doesn't facetime work ALL the time?
..where's the 'Save as' thing in TextEdit?
..STOP installing latest iTunes/ unwanted apps - I don't need it - why can't it remember my decisions?

..possible to make ProTools work without resorting to an expensive upgrade? Guess not...

You realize that 99 percent of what you said is either A. easily fixable with a simple trip to the settings or terminal. B. A little learning curve, which I can tell right now you are not able to handle change.
 
I dont mind it to much after using it for a bit, would just like more options to customise things

So far it is my least favourite version of OS X I have used
 
Lion is fine by me. There are a few small annoyances, but we have the ability to adjust them, so therefore I am happy with Lion.
 
Some of the new features have been a benefit to me, some others required a period of adjustment to get the hang of, but there are a few "improvements" which just irritate me beyond belief.

I had high hopes for Lion, but to be honest it feels like a bit of a let-down to me. I've already starting to look back at Snow Leopard as "the good ole days" when things were just simpler and my computer ran for months on end without a single issue. Since upgrading to Lion i've spent more time sorting out bugs and finding work-arounds than i ever did after upgrading to Leopard and Snow Leopard, so much so i'm considering downgrading :(
 
I tried to give Lion a fair chance but in reality I found SL to be a better OS at the moment. My list of gipes are:
  • Color scheme - less contrasty the safari back/forward buttons look like they're disabled.
  • Mail.app - hate the changes, to me its like a big step backward
  • Smaller traffic light buttons, I'm finding that I need to pay attention to where the mouse is more then I usually do. Perhaps I'll would have gotten used to it but...
  • AFP changes, while my NAS' firmware has been updated, AFP connection is painfully slow because apple dropped DHCAST128 authentication.
  • Compatibility issues with some apps
  • multi-gestures
  • mission control
  • Finder changes like the sidebar order
  • Battery impact
  • Natural scrolling


While I can disable some of the "features" or configure them, I find that the more I configure/disable, the more 10.7 is operating like Snow Leopard. Why not run the actual 10.6 and regain stability and ease of use and use an OS that is less ram hungry

Lion is the future, but I think I need to wait until apple fixes the bugs and hopefully addresses some of the short comings
 
I'm not a huge fan of lion.

I've been told I can tweak it to be more like SL. But quite frankly, the reason I liked OSX so much was everything was pretty much "just right" without much tweaking.

Oh well, Not the first time "progression" turned into a huge leap back, imo.:rolleyes:
 
Seriously, be truthful. OK, I can't make you like the new look OS, or solve some of the annoying things about it.. However, outta curiosity are there anyone else whom dislike Lion's? Like, so much so much they're thumbling around seeking workarounds, GUI tweaks or willing to backtrack and downgraded to our trusty Snow Leopard?

I don't necessarily dislike Lion, but it just has a lot of bugs right now. Probably because its fairly new. :rolleyes:
 
Hopefully Apple listens to feedback!

Hopefully Apple is paying attention to the feedback on Lion.

I definitely think overall Lion is worse than SL.

Yes I realize people say this with every OS upgrade but for those of us that remember the transition from Leopard to SL (or from XP to Leopard :p) I think we all appreciate that something is a little off with this transition.

Speaking personally I know when I first switched to Leopard even though I had a bunch of 'how do I do what I used to be able to do moments' I also had a lot of 'holy crap that is so cool why didn't anyone ever think of that before!' moments. Even with the move to SL which was pretty minor there were small changes that I really appreciated in my workflow (new preview with proper highlighting, the way you can drag the icon in the menubar to copy a file etc.)

On Lion my one aha! moment was that we can finally resize windows from all edges...something that should have been there forever. Everything else is either not quite annoying enough to worry about or in a small number of cases really annoying and bringing me back to SL every time I try to switch.

I do think however that all hope is not lost. If Apple, or at least some awesome third party developer, can return to us a few things Lion would at least be a sidegrade rather than a downgrade:

- spaces/expose for those who need it (I can live with Mission Control but it needs some enhancements either way)
- Save As (please for the love of god!)
- proper customization for gestures (something they even had in the developer previews and then removed :confused:)
- the ability to switch off the stupid autosave for those who don't want it

I do have hope that a more polished thought out Lion version 2.0 (just like SL) will actually be a decent OS. It just isn't quite there yet...
 
Me thinks that you confuse "fiddlers" with true power users. A true power user is not one who is going to delete system files or fiddle with registry cleaners etc.

agree 100% with this. At work I am a power user in that I use top notch hardware to complete computationally demanding tasks. The system I use is far more locked down than my mac at home with Lion, I have zero access to the sorts of bits that people in this thread are complaining about and it doesn't affect my workflow one jot.
 
i'm in the same boat op and not afraid to admit it.

safari is a ram sink, the swipe back and forward are laggy and refreshes. why can't the swipes just be a gesture for "command [" and "command ]"?

the facebook black picture box thing now takes me to the picture.

and apple took away spaces!

i would type more, but i already opened a thread on this and it was fanboy bashed.
 
Hopefully Apple is paying attention to the feedback on Lion.
The same here, I fired off a missive on http://apple.com/feedback Basically the list UI portions of my list. I think if some of those were addressed then it would be that much more useable.

As I stated why should I go about altering Lion to the point that it behaves like SL when I have SL working just fine without all of that tweaking. I have the 10.7 USB put aside waiting for the 10.7.xx update that will entice me to upgrade again.
 
Everyone hates it, around 50% admit it. It sucks, and no im not trolling, just wish some feckers on here would get a spine transplant and front up. It 100% sucks, Apple or not.

This is simply not true. I think most users will like the changes in Lion. Its made my 11" macbook air experience much better with the full screen apps alone. The majority of Apples computers are laptops and I think Lion is great for that. Most of the users are not power users and don't care about most of the stuff people on this site complain about. Im guessing 10.7.2 will fix most of the bugs and Apple may add a few more options for people that want to customize their settings.
 
Its disappointing but i dont dislike it. I can see why it was the same price as SL. Feels more like a service pack than anything else. Not a big fan of mission control but there are some good features that i do prefer over SL
 
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