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This issue (Screen burn in on AMOLED) has been addressed a lot with this generation AMOLED displays, and the next-generation OLED displays (all OLED displays are Active Matrix OLED displays), are expected to solve this problem even more. Even LCD displays suffer from screen burn-in (it's rare, however).

Don't just say it and expect us to believe it... provide an official link showing this to be true ;)
 
I want a bigger screen but i would frankly still prefer the crisp IPS display that shipped with the first batch of iPhone 4. Deep blacks, white whites and just gorgeous.
 
I want a bigger screen but i would frankly still prefer the crisp IPS display that shipped with the first batch of iPhone 4. Deep blacks, white whites and just gorgeous.
Blacks are even blacker with a Super AMOLED Plus display. Join the dark side (we have cookies).
 
SAMOLED has a tendency towards blue tints so whites are blueish white. I'd take deep blacks and white whites over ink black and bluish white.

Samsung would never be able to meet Apple's demand for components AND supply its own products too so its really a moot point either way.
 
SAMOLED has a tendency towards blue tints so whites are blueish white. I'd take deep blacks and white whites over ink black and bluish white.

Samsung would never be able to meet Apple's demand for components AND supply its own products too so its really a moot point either way.

This is why samoled will be limited to android and to the new Wp7 phones. I do not see them coming over to iOS.
 
plz nothing bigger than 3.5", anything bigger is just uncomfortable to keep in your jeans pocket.
 
SAMOLED has a tendency towards blue tints so whites are blueish white. I'd take deep blacks and white whites over ink black and bluish white.

Samsung would never be able to meet Apple's demand for components AND supply its own products too so its really a moot point either way.

That's kind of a color temperature issue. It was an issue in earlier lcds too. Typical computer screen is balanced to emulate a roughly 6500 Kelvin white point. SAMOLED is probably significantly higher natively. I can''t find any real numbers on it, but just give the technology a little time. Lcd panels had this trouble less than a decade ago. If the technology remains desirable enough, they're likely to overcome these issues. There are a number of ways to do so even via software level correction, but I'm not going into that.
 
Until they can get rid of the PenTile matrix I'll stick with LCD. However, recently Samsung finally figured out how to use a traditional RGB layout so I would expect they'll be mass producing them later next year.

My problem with pentile displays:

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Great for video but awful for text.
 
I really hope they don't make the phone any bigger. I feel like the size is perfect the way it is.

If they could fit a bigger screen on the same size phone, that would be cool though.
 
Until they can get rid of the PenTile matrix I'll stick with LCD. However, recently Samsung finally figured out how to use a traditional RGB layout so I would expect they'll be mass producing them later next year.

My problem with pentile displays:

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Great for video but awful for text.
They already got rid of this pentile issue. The Super AMOLED Plus technology uses the RGB layout and is currently used in the Galaxy S 2.
 
No, the AMOLED is no where near as good as the retina display.
Where do you guys even come up with this junk? The Super AMOLED on my SGII is just as nice as the retina on my 4, infact I prefer it more as it's brighter with more pop to the colors. There's barely any difference in sharpness, maybe a very slight edge to retina when your zoomed all the way in on text for example but what's the point in doing that, does anyone read on full zoom mode lol. In normal use the Super AMOLED looks nicer on the 4.3" screen especially when browsing vs my 4. There's a point of diminishing effect in regards to ppi at the level retina is at.

I'm pretty sure Apples next phone will have a 4" Retina screen though, which would be great, no fragmentation of apps and that little difference in screen size makes a huge difference in actual use.

plz nothing bigger than 3.5", anything bigger is just uncomfortable to keep in your jeans pocket.
My SGII has a 4.3" screen, and the phone is barely bigger then my iPhone 4. And it's slightly thinner and much lighter. It actually fit's better in pockets and is a more ergonomic shape, b/c numerous times I've had the iPhones go sideways and get jammed in a pocket. SGII just slides in and out. So how is it "uncomfortable"? Unless your one of those wearing the girly tight skinny jeans where you can barely get a hand in anyway lol ;) :D
 
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Where do you guys even come up with this junk? The Super AMOLED on my SGII is just as nice as the retina on my 4, infact I prefer it more as it's brighter with more pop to the colors. There's barely any difference in sharpness, maybe a very slight edge to retina when your zoomed all the way in on text for example but what's the point in doing that, does anyone read on full zoom mode lol. In normal use the Super AMOLED looks nicer on the 4.3" screen especially when browsing vs my 4. There's a point of diminishing effect in regards to ppi at the level retina is at.

I'm pretty sure Apples next phone will have a 4" Retina screen though, which would be great, no fragmentation of apps and that little difference in screen size makes a huge difference in actual use.

My SGII has a 4.3" screen, and the phone is barely bigger then my iPhone 4. And it's slightly thinner and much lighter. It actually fit's better in pockets and is a more ergonomic shape, b/c numerous times I've had the iPhones go sideways and get jammed in a pocket. SGII just slides in and out. So how is it "uncomfortable"? Unless your one of those wearing the girly tight skinny jeans where you can barely get a hand in anyway lol ;) :D
The perfect solution would be a Super AMOLED Plus retina display, haha. You get it, a bigger screen doesn't necessarily mean a much bigger phone. It should be noted, however, that a 4.3" 3:2 is much bigger than a 4.3" 16:9 screen (found on the Galaxy S 2). So if they keep the 3:2 aspect ratio, 4" might be the best. I would, however, feel more comfortable with a 16:9 4.3" (because, well, that's just better for the phone itself: the screen get's taller, and there is still enough space above and below the current iPhone's screen).
 
I'll put both side by side when the new iPhone 5 comes out, than I will put my money on the better one for me, not someone else's individual likes/dislikes. I actually like both. ;)
 
For me the display is extremely important. I hope LG will produce better displays than Samsung since I am sure Apple (will not use/will not be able to use) Samsung displays from now on. That said: I think the SG2 display is better than the retina on 4/4s despite the lower resolution. Otoh, Samsung TV's are crap imo. I cried bitter tears when Pioneer sold their TV division.
 
One thing the OP hasn't mentioned is the cost difference between super amoled and lcd. I doubt apple is going to cut into their profit margins for a screen that may or may not be up to what they need for their phones.
 
Where do you guys even come up with this junk? The Super AMOLED on my SGII is just as nice as the retina on my 4, infact I prefer it more as it's brighter with more pop to the colors. There's barely any difference in sharpness, maybe a very slight edge to retina when your zoomed all the way in on text for example but what's the point in doing that, does anyone read on full zoom mode lol. In normal use the Super AMOLED looks nicer on the 4.3" screen especially when browsing vs my 4. There's a point of diminishing effect in regards to ppi at the level retina is at.

I'm pretty sure Apples next phone will have a 4" Retina screen though, which would be great, no fragmentation of apps and that little difference in screen size makes a huge difference in actual use.

My SGII has a 4.3" screen, and the phone is barely bigger then my iPhone 4. And it's slightly thinner and much lighter. It actually fit's better in pockets and is a more ergonomic shape, b/c numerous times I've had the iPhones go sideways and get jammed in a pocket. SGII just slides in and out. So how is it "uncomfortable"? Unless your one of those wearing the girly tight skinny jeans where you can barely get a hand in anyway lol ;) :D

Well, im glad you like your galaxy sII! I love my iPhone 4s! I can't stand droid software, i dont want anything windows related anymore. I prefer apples software because it is safe and difficult to hack. The SII is lightweight plastic, Yuk! I prefer the robust feel and weight of the iPhone 4s's glass and stainless. So if apple chooses to put a amoled screen in the iPhone, it had better be calibrated for photographers like myself to display my work. The SII was too contrasty and the color balance was off and it would not work for me. You may not notice any color balance variances, but to a trained eye, I can. I guess you left apple for the larger screen? It's not that much larger, besides you be used to it in a month and it wont appear as large as it did when you first saw it and you'll probably want to go bigger still. If you left the iPhone for that reason, that is.
 
Well, im glad you like your galaxy sII! I love my iPhone 4s! I can't stand droid software, i dont want anything windows related anymore. I prefer apples software because it is safe and difficult to hack. The SII is lightweight plastic, Yuk! I prefer the robust feel and weight of the iPhone 4s's glass and stainless. So if apple chooses to put a amoled screen in the iPhone, it had better be calibrated for photographers like myself to display my work. The SII was too contrasty and the color balance was off and it would not work for me. You may not notice any color balance variances, but to a trained eye, I can. I guess you left apple for the larger screen? It's not that much larger, besides you be used to it in a month and it wont appear as large as it did when you first saw it and you'll probably want to go bigger still. If you left the iPhone for that reason, that is.
I actually know an photographer who uses his SGII as well, there's an app called screen adjuster where you can play with the settings to get saturation/contrast etc to how you like, and the developer is making a few other adjustments for it to use. It's what I used to adjust to how I want it. He Rarely uses the phone anyway for photography as he has $$ equipment to use, usually used to show quick pics to clients or examples. But if that means more to you then anything then the iPhone is fine as it has the edge there, not everyone is a professional photographer though. It takes way better pics then the 4, and with my current settings it's fairly close to a 4S, the 4S seems a bit warmer and focused in certain areas vs the SGII having more pop.

Left the iPhone, b/c mainly there's no Jailbreak for the 4S and may not be for long time since their having trouble with the cracking the new system reliably (and I will not use an iPhone without the custom tweaks I use currently like SBS nor be restricted by Apples dumb folder system that limits you and can't have folders in a folder, and it still irks me that Apple still hasn't put a good text editor in if you make a mistake or even just want to add something in... I type a ton of emails and text for business and it's annoying not being able to go to exactly where I want to edit w/o having to delete or retype the word b/c it didn't even get the right spot, plenty on here have mentioned that annoying issue, the one in Android is so much better and lets you accurate pinpoint any word or letter fast).

I don't want 4.5"+ screens, a lot of those phones are bulkier and some are awkward shaped like I hate the camera bump on some (the SGII is flush) etc. Samsung nailed it with the 4.3" for the i777 version as they made an excellent screen in that size in a phone that's barely bigger then an iPhone. It may not be that much larger, but it's a lot better in normal use with the larger screen real estate... I mean I can kick back at night and not have the phone close to my face in bed and read and browse easier (and I have excellent vision at 20/15). I still have my iPhones, I just decided to go Droid this time, and it's great setting the phone up to exactly how I want. Same reason I jailbreak'd my iPhone. My gf even likes using it more then the 4 which I got for her and she's not much of a phone person, I refuse to use her crackberry for work lol.

Don't mind the light feel of the SGII, I actually like it. I do like the aluminum feel of the iPhone 4 more, but that's it's downfall, makes it so fragile. Then if you have it in a case, well so much for "feeling" and showing off that aluminum build lol.

Like I said I still kept my iPhones so it's not like I left Apple, just hope they do something very new and cool for next year. Right now I'm really impressed with this phone, absolutely no lag or anything, just as smooth and fast as iOS.

4S is a great phone, just wasn't for me. Plus I got it for less than $1 and not even any sales tax as an upgrade when Sams Club did their Black Friday sale, no way could I pass up that insane deal. Both phones kick ass, so can't go wrong either way... just for what I want to do I preferred the SGII.

For me the display is extremely important. I hope LG will produce better displays than Samsung since I am sure Apple (will not use/will not be able to use) Samsung displays from now on. That said: I think the SG2 display is better than the retina on 4/4s despite the lower resolution. Otoh, Samsung TV's are crap imo. I cried bitter tears when Pioneer sold their TV division.
Samsung tv's are actually highly regarded throughout the industry, they do pretty much everything in house. I have an business acquaintance that works in the flat panel industry (they provide Samsung materials for one of their plants). If you had a bad experience with them, doesn't mean their crap (like saying you had a bad experience with Honda therefore Hondas are crap).

They actually makes parts for most other companies to use in their tv's from panels to the electronics. Majority of Sony's panels even their $$ XBR line is from Samsung. LG a few years ago even made a few of the panels for some of Samsung's tv's. But in general, Samsung is the key player for others in the tv industry. We had a Pioneer Kuro, even today considered the epitome of plasma's, had plenty of issues with that tv. Do I think Pioneer sucks, no way, just luck of the draw, no company will have 100% perfect products.
 
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Personally I'm less concerned with the tech than the experience. Apple has never gone the over saturated and contrasty route, so I assume they will tweak whatever tech they use to a pleasing balance regardless.

That said its totally personal preference, so i would expect samsung's screens to remain equally popular. Y'know it's possible for both companies to be good, right?
 
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Personally I'm less concerned with the tech than the experience. Apple has never gone the over saturated and contrasty route, so I assume they will tweak whatever tech they use to a pleasing balance regardless.

That said its totally personal preference, so i would expect samsung's screens to remain equally popular. Y'know it's possible for both companies to be good, right?
I don't know who you are talking to, but I love both Apple and Samsung haha.
I'd just like to see a better screen in the next-gen iPhone (the screen is what you look at 90% of the time when you are really using your iPhone).
 
I don't know who you are talking to, but I love both Apple and Samsung haha.
I'd just like to see a better screen in the next-gen iPhone (the screen is what you look at 90% of the time when you are really using your iPhone).

definitely not directed at you or any one person in particular, just there's lots of smack talk about phones and their various technologies which are really just different from each other, rather than better or worse.

i like apple and samsung too, and i kind of want them to continue to approach certain things differently, just so we always have choice.
 
I doubt next iphone will use AMOLED because it would kill battery really quick since iOS uses alot of white.
 
I just want to know when this thing will be out. I am going to have a very hard time waiting until October if that is going to be their new release schedule.
 
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