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Does apple check education eligibility?
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Xephian said:
No they shouldn't. Apple is awarding people who want a "Higher education" not education that is REQUIRED by law.
I thought the discounts were available to anyone connected to any sort of educational institution?
Thot wrong.fieldsofanfield said:
Seriously: ANY manufacturer's programme is subject to the terms and conditions that they set down.
THere is no 'entitlement' just because -- They get to define what and who applies. You want to know what the terms are, just go to the Education Store site and read.
It seems like its random after reading the posts.
I've ordered from my HS Apple Store page for education and so far, they haven't checked.
What was weird is that when I was in my Local Apple Store, they cannot give me the discount because I am a HS student. They said to get the discount, order online from them.
So, that is what I did... Hopefully, if they try to charge me the full costs, I can say that the Apple Store Employee said it was ok to get the discount online.
Thanks,
Paul
I've ordered from my HS Apple Store page for education and so far, they haven't checked.
What was weird is that when I was in my Local Apple Store, they cannot give me the discount because I am a HS student. They said to get the discount, order online from them.
So, that is what I did... Hopefully, if they try to charge me the full costs, I can say that the Apple Store Employee said it was ok to get the discount online.
Thanks,
Paul
On Apple's UK website certain areas check that your IP belongs to a university campus, library or lab. Though I don't think all parts are like this.
One thing you can do is find a student friend that is definitely eligible and offer to buy them lunch if they come into an Apple store with you to supply education details.
One thing you can do is find a student friend that is definitely eligible and offer to buy them lunch if they come into an Apple store with you to supply education details.
blaskillet4 said:
After tenth grade, you aren't required by law to attend high school. So, anyone above tenth grade deserves it then, correct?
Also, some people do seek higher education in high school through AP and IB programs. Is it fair to those who are doing higher education material, but at an accelerated pace to be unqualified for the discount?
appletimeuser said:
I think that it's better to be safe than sorry. Honesty is always the best policy. If you know someone that's in college and they don't need there eligibly this year, maybe they would help you out. Then just register the Mac in your name. To get the Student Union iPod they want to know the University that you are attending and year in school.
Chef Medeski said:
Quit trying to find loop hopes in the system because on the website it states exactly as it asks for. COLLEGE STUDENTS. It says that right at the Student Union icon on the bottom left. If you aren't enrolled in COLLEGE then you more then likely do NOT qualify for the discount. I don't understand why its so hard to understand that.
Yesterday when I went to buy my first PowerBook, the person who rang me out did indeed check my Student ID. At first I accidentally gave him my HS ID and he said "Sorry you don't qualify, its for college students only." After realizing my mistake I gave him my college one and he gave me the discount (after entering in a bunch of crap into the system).
As for online discount I bet alot of people are getting away from paying the full price. There is absolutely no way of finding out if someone really is a student. So if you feel like getting the discount then just simply buy your stuff online. They really do not check any form of ID. When I bought my iPod ( a few years ago before I was in college ) I figured they might call the college or something. However I was still billed for the discounted price and I was never troubled by them.
wako said:
I'm not finding loop holes I'm making an objective reply to blaskillet4, who I disagree with.
Chef Medeski said:
Incorrect. First of all, I've never heard of the 10th grade requirement you speak of. But I'm feeling lazy today, so I'll take your word on it. But if you don't graduate, then you have no business buying a computer and expecting a Higher learning discount. You should have other things to worry about.
I'm not saying those people deserve a computer discount. I am saying, people in advanced courses who will not only graduate but nearly all go onto college deserve it early.blaskillet4 said:
Also I did the searching for you. School Compusulry Law If you scroll down to 1002.20 K-12 student and parent rights. Under provision (2) School Attendance (a) it speaks of the ability to terminate high school upon reaching the age of 16 which is usually at the 10th grade level or above it.
Chef Medeski said:
They still shouldn't offer a student discount. You can't garantee that they will go for a higher education. You have to be accepted or be attending college to receive a higher learning discount.
Also, the article applies to Florida, I'm in California. Oh and read
this.
Sadly here in California, only 2/3 graduate on time, which also probably means that less than that even get accepted into a college (how many of those people who flunked do you think are going to want to go to college?)
Apple wants to award those who make the cut, not every student.
If you would actually read my post instead of bantering on maybe you could learn something. I am talking about Advanved, gifted, or smart students not the ones who flung. The ones who are classified as above almost predominatly go to college. Our IB class had a 100% college rate. Every single advanced person in our class went to college. Now 2/3 is referring to everyone. Those who flung probably should have learned how to read, like you should.
By the way, how many of those flunkies do you think can even afford a computer, let alone an apple with a discount, let alone an apple.Period.
Chef Medeski said:
Ok, I see. So now you're bashing me because you claim I can't read, yet you claim to be one of those smart students who didn't "flung" out of high school
Riiight <--- I spelled it like that on purpose
No student discount for you...
Chef Medeski said:
1) State law varies on this. A lot of places it's 18.
2) What's fair is what apple says. the last thing they're going to do is set up a program that requires them to determine whether you're taking enough AP classes that you qualify for a college discount.
The reason for the program has little to do with fairness, anyway. It's about marketing. Apple wants to get its computers in the hands of college students. It doesn't care so much about high school students, because that's just about everybody, or someone connected to them. BAsically who couldn't find a high school (or elementary school) student to buy for them. So they limit it.
BTW, I know my (former) high school has an arrangement with at least the local apple store to get the edu discount. But by having a specific arrangment, they don't have to worry about verification.
Sean7512 said:
Same thing with me. When I bought my Mac Mini online, it asked for an i.d. number. So I called Apple and did it over the phone. All they asked for was the state and the college.
Best part is, now when I buy online, it works.
Chef Medeski said:
Probably more can afford it than me... I have 2 bachelor's degrees and am a teacher... teachers get paid nothing... student right out of dropping out working construction make more than me.... I'm not mad or bitter or anything
Apple SHOULD open it for High School students if they are either a) very smart, like AP classes, or b) private schools. If they did, they'd see a sharp increase in sales as four of my friends just told me they got 15" and 17" DELL laptops. One friend got a 17" Alienware, and one got a 13 (or 12", not sure) Sony.
Education discounts aren't a magnanimous gesture by Apple, they're a business tool. Get students hooked early, pray they'll keep buying later in life. It has nothing to do with who's 'deserving' and who's not.
One Powerbook-using 'flunkie' I know (dropped out at 16) just gradgitated from Columbia University.
dotdotdot said:
why private schools? what makes kids that have rich parents or are deeply religious more special then someone in public schooling?
I think it should stay as it is.
milozauckerman said:
Thats an exception not a rule.
I also have to agree, what do private school kids deserve a discount for just being in private schools? There are plenty of schools that peform jsut as well or worst than public schools.
The only thing I could see is the fact that pricate school students, probably have the money to pay for a mac more than a public school student.
Of course she's the exception - your statement left no room for 'exceptions' as you chose to lump people of a solitary qualification ('did not graduate high school') into one homogenous class ('flunkies' too broke to buy a Mac).
I just have a bad habit of calling people on their wannabe-elitist crap.
I just have a bad habit of calling people on their wannabe-elitist crap.
