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Apple-NoEscape

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To jailbreak I mean.
I'm just curious as I haven't really ever followed the jailbreaking side of things. But if I do decide to get the iPhone 4 I'm thinking it would be nice to finally jailbreak an iPhone.
So with that said my original question stands, with each update 2.0 to 3.0 etc does it normally take this long for someone to crack it?

I don't truly believe Apple will make it uncrackable, but they can make it damn well hard to do so.
 
thelatinist said:
It takes as long as it takes. Try taking a look at the source code for Spirit to get an idea of how much work goes into it.
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I understand how hard it must be, hell I wouldn't even know where to begin. I don't want to come across as impatient or something, just generally curious.
Will it ever get to a point where it takes so long for a jailbreak the it next 'X'.0 os is released before the jailbreak for the current one.

Apple has to be getting better at spotting these security holes, however that being said I supose I can just look at my windows machine to see how that may never be possible.
 
You are impatient.
There's like a dozen threads like yours every day.
Why is it taking so long, can I JB my iphone, when it the JB and unlock going to be ready finally.......
Just wait like everyone else.
Noone know how long it will take and why. Each OS, iphone device, baseband, JB and unlock is different and there's tons of coding and research that needs to be done for you to just plug in your iphone and click a button and have it jailbroken.
 
Applejuiced said:
You are impatient.
There's like a dozen threads like yours every day.
Why is it taking so long, can I JB my iphone, when it the JB and unlock going to be ready finally.......
Just wait like everyone else.
Noone know how long it will take and why. Each OS, iphone device, baseband, JB and unlock is different and there's tons of coding and research that needs to be done for you to just plug in your iphone and click a button and have it jailbroken.
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How am I impatient when I don't even have the iPhone 4 to jailbreak :rolleyes:

As I say I'm just curious as to how long it normally takes. I love the idea of people foding security holes and Apple fighting to fix them. I was just wondering whether it is getting harder and harder to do.
 
Apple-NoEscape said:
Will it ever get to a point where it takes so long for a jailbreak the it next 'X'.0 os is released before the jailbreak for the current one.
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The obvious answer to this question is yes.

Whether it's because it becomes harder to jb, Apple starts spitting out new versions faster or a combination, yes, a new version of the OS could come out before the last one has been jailbroken.

Apple-NoEscape said:
Apple has to be getting better at spotting these security holes, however that being said I supose I can just look at my windows machine to see how that may never be possible.
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I've wondered how many people Apple devotes to doing this because what business benefit is in it for them. If they can close a hole as part of doing other development, they probably do, but why would they expend development dollars for this? Will they claim they are closing holes for PR reasons? Yes. Will they actually devote resources? Who knows.
 
Everyone should get off the OP's nuts

He seems to be a n00b as far as jailbreaking is concerned, and is just asking some basic questions regarding time lines of the process.

If you want people to b1tch at go to the "dozen threads" with the people who are self entitled whiney brats who think they are OWED a jailbreak NOW. This kid doesn't even have an ip4 :rolleyes:
 
Initially priced at US$599 and US$499 for the 8 GB and 4 GB models, the iPhone went on sale on June 29, 2007.

The first jailbreaking method was released on July 10, 2007


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With the July 11, 2008 release of the iPhone 3G

2008

Upon the nearing release of iOS 2.0 (previously iPhone OS), a hacker group called the iPhone Dev Team released a jailbreaking application named PwnageTool that used a graphical user interface.[5] It is capable of creating custom firmwares, from which devices can be restored.



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On March 17, 2009, Apple announced the release of iOS 3.0.[7] Three months later, the iPhone Dev Team released PwnageTool 3.0 and redsn0w 0.7.2, which allowed users of the original iPhone, iPhone 3G, and iPod Touch running the OS 3.0 to be jailbroken on both Macs and PCs.[8]




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On September 9, 2009, Apple released iOS 3.1, again disabling the ability to jailbreak the device. The iPhone Dev Team released PwnageTool 3.1-3 to jailbreak for all devices (except the iPod Touch 3G).[9]

On October 11, 2009, George Hotz, known under the alias Geohot, released the tool blackra1n, which allows the jailbreaking of all iPhones (up to the old 3GS) and iPod touch (up to 3G) devices running iOS 3.1.2 (although the iPod Touch 3G is tethered; it must be plugged into a computer, and blackra1n must be run to boot the device every time it shuts down).

On October 25, 2009 Geohot released a newer version of blackra1n, RC2, an update that was able to tethered jailbreak the new iPhone 3GS the new iPod Touch 2G 8GB MC model. All of the tethered devices feature an updated boot ROM in which Apple had closed the 24kpwn loophole exploited by the iphone and chronic dev teams. Geohot also released "blacksn0w", an unlocking application for the iPhone which was capable of unlocking the newest baseband version, 5.11.07. Released on November 2, 2009, blackra1n RC3 is the current version, which also includes blacksn0w.


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iOS 4.0 was released June 21, 2010
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from Wiki :cool:
 
I'm not sure what other answer I could have offered than "it takes as long as it takes." It's the kind of answer I would give anyone asking hypotheticals about unknowables. The fact is that nobody can know when or if any firmware version will be jailbroken. It is not being a "smart-ass" to point out this fact. All you n00bs need to calm down and stop being so defensive.
 
Yes, It Takes A Long Time, Always..... This Is Actually Very Short It Could Take Months To Never.

So When One Is Finally Out Dont Upgrade Your Phones......

And Just Wait Quietly... Unless You Are Paying These People Big Money Not A $5 Donation But Lets Say $100,000.00 Year Then just wait :).
 
thelatinist said:
I'm not sure what other answer I could have offered than "it takes as long as it takes." It's the kind of answer I would give anyone asking hypotheticals about unknowables. The fact is that nobody can know when or if any firmware version will be jailbroken. It is not being a "smart-ass" to point out this fact. All you n00bs need to calm down and stop being so defensive.
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The OP didn't ask how long THIS one would take. He asked how long it generally takes, in the past - nothing hypothetical about it. You probably just read the Title and started flaming without reading the whole post.
 
MikePA said:
The obvious answer to this question is yes.

Whether it's because it becomes harder to jb, Apple starts spitting out new versions faster or a combination, yes, a new version of the OS could come out before the last one has been jailbroken.



I've wondered how many people Apple devotes to doing this because what business benefit is in it for them. If they can close a hole as part of doing other development, they probably do, but why would they expend development dollars for this? Will they claim they are closing holes for PR reasons? Yes. Will they actually devote resources? Who knows.
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It would be a waste of time frankly. Jailbreaking iPhones will always be possible. iOS is a huge complicated operating system. Finding and eliminating all bugs and exploits in the system is impossible. That's why exploits for jailbreaks are found very quickly (but take time to code for public release).

On the other hand the OS on the baseband is small and contains few commands. This is why it usually takes a long time to find an exploit for an unlock. Apple can make it very difficult for future unlocks, and why we don't have a bootneuter on iPhones after the 2G.
 
chakraj said:
Yes, It Takes A Long Time, Always..... This Is Actually Very Short It Could Take Months To Never.

So When One Is Finally Out Dont Upgrade Your Phones......

And Just Wait Quietly... Unless You Are Paying These People Big Money Not A $5 Donation But Lets Say $100,000.00 Year Then just wait :).
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This is completely OT, but I absolutely HAVE to ask you this. And this is something I've noticed happening a lot in the last couple of years on various forums...

When you're typing out a post...Why Do You Capitalize Every Word In Every Sentence And Not Just Capitalize The First Word Of Every Sentence???

I'm seriously not asking this to be a dick. I truly want to find an answer to this question. I mean, I just don't get how someone comes to type like that.

Someone? Anyone? Any ideas?
 
bigjnyc said:
wow I didn't realize the first JB was introduced so soon after the first iphone was released. There wasnt even an App store yet
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Back then it was a definitely more of a process. Not to mention I believe you could actually "brick" your phone (though Apple released an update a few versions later that could unbrick phones).

I think the first version I did it on was 1.1.2 or 1.1.3 using jailbreakme, and it was definitely more difficult than my 3G I jailbroke with blackra1n.
 
I wrote the whole thing in capitals, to show a bit of frustration with the issue, however when I posted it MacRumors had not allowed it to be all caps and changed it to just the first letter being caps. I didnt want to go back and fix it :)

and it does take a long time to never. We never know when apple will fill all holes and no JB will be pos.

By OT I think you mean over the top? I didnt think I was being to much OT. Sorry if I offeneded :)
 
chakraj said:
I wrote the whole thing in capitals, to show a bit of frustration with the issue, however when I posted it MacRumors had not allowed it to be all caps and changed it to just the first letter being caps. I didnt want to go back and fix it :)

and it does take a long time to never. We never know when apple will fill all holes and no JB will be pos.

By OT I think you mean over the top? I didnt think I was being to much OT. Sorry if I offeneded :)
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Off-topic. If macrumors doesn't allow you to enter things in all caps that should probably be a good indication not to try, even just to "make a point"... Though I have noticed that as well and it's good to know why now...
 
Yes, off-topic indeed. :D

Thanks chakraj. I seriously was just wondering and since you'd posted like that, I figured you'd be a good one to ask...lol.

Ok, threadjack over. Back to the topic at hand. :apple:
 
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