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After updating software in my iMac and other Apple devices, and using the paired stereo HomePods more, I'm not particularly happy with controlling the music that flows to each device in my home.

I have three HomePods now, two paired in Stereo in one room, and single HomePods in two other rooms.

In iTunes, control of the music going to each speaker is not intuitive. Formerly, I could simply begin playing a track in my iTunes library and select which speakers would receive the music - all of the HomePods, or only one or two.

Now, I can only do that if I don't use the two speakers that are paired in stereo. If I select the stereo pair, then the iTunes won't give me the ability to also select speakers in other rooms.

The Music App on my iPhone does have this ability, but it is much more difficult to select which music to be played. I prefer to use iTunes since that is where I have all of my music library organized, and it provides other information such as how many plays I have accumulated for each individual track. This information also does not seem to be updating properly.

If I am playing music from iTunes on my computer, and I select the paired stereo speakers, it also over-rides the track that I've selected to play using iTunes, and returns to whatever I was previously playing on those speakers via Apple Music. Over-riding that causes a delay of sometimes many seconds for the music to be loaded, which suggests to me that the music is now being flowed from Apple Music and not directly from my computer iTunes library. The iTunes playback is sometimes interrupted and the music selection switches to something else in my iTunes library without my taking any action to change what is being played. This has happened multiple times.

Using the Music app on my iPhone is not necessarily any better and if I'm working at my computer with iTunes open then why should I need to even involve the iPhone to control what I'm listening to?

Bottom line, I cannot simply select an album or music track on my iTunes and play it to my stereo paired HomePods reliably. It repeatedly loses the music and randomly switches to some other music in my library, without any rhyme or reason.

It is all very confusing and since the new software update I'm very frustrated. It should be straightforward for me to select what I'd like to play from my own iTunes music library, and select which speakers will receive the music (including the paired HomePods), and it is not.
 
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In all the latest updates my delay using my.mac as main audio out to homepod has a huge delay like watching youtube i dont think 10.13.5 has airplay 2 so thats why
 
Assuming, you did the pairing with an iOS device already, first, you see the two speakers in iTunes and when you start it should change and look like in the attachment. In that case it is stereo-paired. Before the update it was "Living Room + Living Room (2) above the title of the music where it says "Living Room" now. There was a hiccup when I tried first, but it's been working since then.

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I have now managed to get iTunes on the Mac to play music on both of the HomePods in the stereo pair, but only after subscribing to Apple Music. Previous attempts failed at the Apple Music sign in. I have been avoiding Apple Music so far as I don't think it represents good value for me, but let's see what it offers over the three month free trial.

I do hope this is just a bug and that iTunes will soon be fixed to allow music to be streamed in stereo over paired HomePods without the need for an Apple Music subscription.
 
I have now managed to get iTunes on the Mac to play music on both of the HomePods in the stereo pair, but only after subscribing to Apple Music. Previous attempts failed at the Apple Music sign in. I have been avoiding Apple Music so far as I don't think it represents good value for me, but let's see what it offers over the three month free trial.

I do hope this is just a bug and that iTunes will soon be fixed to allow music to be streamed in stereo over paired HomePods without the need for an Apple Music subscription.

It definitely shouldn't be necessary to subscribe to Apple Music although I'm sure AAPL won't mind to nudge some people toward that 'solution'. Let's see if iTunes becomes more usable within the next three months before the free trial ends.

Apple Music works really well for me and the kind of music I listen to, the audio quality is really good, too. For people who prefer other streaming services, iOS AirPlay seems to be more useful right now.
 
After a bit more experimenting, stereo HomePod playback from iTunes needs iCloud music library to be on (it is on my MacBook, so it can play music on stereo HomePods, but not on my iMac which still can't, even though I now have an Apple Music subscription). So it looks like when you want to play a track from iTunes on a Mac the HomePod instead streams it from the iCloud music library (rather than the music coming directly from the iTunes library).

Again, I'm hoping this is just a temporary work around to get stereo HomePods working with iTunes and that this will be fixed so that it works in the same way as iOS i.e. direct streaming and not from the cloud.
 
After a bit more experimenting, stereo HomePod playback from iTunes needs iCloud music library to be on (it is on my MacBook, so it can play music on stereo HomePods, but not on my iMac which still can't, even though I now have an Apple Music subscription). So it looks like when you want to play a track from iTunes on a Mac the HomePod instead streams it from the iCloud music library (rather than the music coming directly from the iTunes library).

Again, I'm hoping this is just a temporary work around to get stereo HomePods working with iTunes and that this will be fixed so that it works in the same way as iOS i.e. direct streaming and not from the cloud.

Wow. If stereo is not supported while streaming directly from iTunes library, that is an absolute dealbreaker for me.

I fear this means the automatic room-sensing adjustments also don’t work for songs directly streamed from iTunes library (though people should have already noticed whether or not that’s true with a single HomePod before 11.4). I imagine this isn’t an obvious observable difference for many but can anyone with a sensitive ear confirm?
 
I'm watching this pretty closely. I'd assumed that I'd get a second HomePod and pair it up when Airplay 2 showed up on the Mac, so that I can play my iTunes library (not Apple Music and not Apple iTunes Match, which I don't use, owing to their crap classical metadata).

What's got me worried is that my music server is a 2010 Mac mini with an SSD wired to my router. If I have to wait for Mojave to get actual stereo from my iTunes library, well, the server is too old to run Mojave.

Dear Apple -- please don't snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory on this one.
 
Well, the closer I look, the more that it looks like I've been squeezed out. No stereo from the Mac iTunes library with mac 10.13.5.

This whole exercise has been tremendously frustrating. Apple's delphic announcements about Airplay 2 have been outstandingly vague, and trying to find out any actual true information about it has been extremely difficult.
 
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I did try the "switch to option" in iTunes, and it did work as I did get stereo music, however I think it is still playing music from apple play and not iTunes on the the Mac itself, but it lets you control it. As soon as I switch to any video within iTunes, be it tv show, podcast or movie I get a Home pod cannot play error. But though the system sounds, I can play it, but only though 1 speaker. Same with Netflix, etc
 
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I did try the "switch to option" in iTunes, and it did work as I did get stereo music, however I think it is still playing music from apple play and not iTunes on the the Mac itself, but it lets you control it. As soon as I switch to any video within iTunes, be it tv show, podcast or movie I get a Home pod cannot play error. But though the system sounds, I can play it, but only though 1 speaker. Same with Netflix, etc

I believe that the same thing is happening when I play music from my iTunes library, using my iMac, but I don't know how to definitively know. It makes me wonder what the point would be of downloading music from Apple Music into your home library if the doggone thing is always going to play from the cloud? It seems to me that when you are at home and listening to music with your computer online then it should source the music from your local library - I went to all the trouble of copying my CD's into iTunes at the highest possible quality in order to get the best sound, and if I'm now getting that same music from the cloud then it is going to be a lower quality.

It is a different matter if I am away from home and listening to music using my iPhone, at those times I'm relying on the cloud to supply the music (unless I've downloaded to my phone, which is only the case for a portion of my entire library).

And I am still unable to stream from my iTunes library to multiple speakers at home if I am doing everything from my iMac. I can only select one of my HomePod speakers, or the stereo pair, not select multiple speakers. I can select multiple speakers if I am using my iPhone, but it more difficult to select the music I want to play if I'm using my iPhone - I have a large library in my iTunes on my iMac and my preference at home is to control it from the computer.

I do have the latest software updates on all devices.
 
I believe that the same thing is happening when I play music from my iTunes library, using my iMac, but I don't know how to definitively know. It makes me wonder what the point would be of downloading music from Apple Music into your home library if the doggone thing is always going to play from the cloud? It seems to me that when you are at home and listening to music with your computer online then it should source the music from your local library - I went to all the trouble of copying my CD's into iTunes at the highest possible quality in order to get the best sound, and if I'm now getting that same music from the cloud then it is going to be a lower quality.

It is a different matter if I am away from home and listening to music using my iPhone, at those times I'm relying on the cloud to supply the music (unless I've downloaded to my phone, which is only the case for a portion of my entire library).

And I am still unable to stream from my iTunes library to multiple speakers at home if I am doing everything from my iMac. I can only select one of my HomePod speakers, or the stereo pair, not select multiple speakers. I can select multiple speakers if I am using my iPhone, but it more difficult to select the music I want to play if I'm using my iPhone - I have a large library in my iTunes on my iMac and my preference at home is to control it from the computer.

I do have the latest software updates on all devices.

If you have a separate modem and router, maybe you could turn off the modem to see if the music is streaming from Apple Music. Alternatively, just unplug the incoming Internet cable from the modem.
 
From all the posts I read here and from HomePod manual, it seems obvious to me that remote controlling the HP, while it's playing Apple Music works, while airplaying your iTunes library in stereo from a Mac don't. Like it or not, you may have to wait for a next MacOS release (which one ?) to do it. I'm ok with it, even if I'm still waiting HP release in my country. If you aren't, it's a dealbreaker.
 
I hope that Apple recognizes that there are many of us who have purchased a lot of music that we keep in our personal libraries and that we use our computers as a central command center for playback around the home. As mentioned, some of us have classical music that is just not available on Apple Music and has been downloaded in lossless format. Just as important, we have those music libraries organized in a way that makes sense to us and that can be easily found when needed to make a playlist or create a particular mood. I "get" that there are a lot of teens and early 20's folks that control their musical world on their phones or iPads. But there are also many of us out here who are purchasing Apple products who need the size, power, and organizational capabilities of a computer to curate our extensive collections.
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Let's not all pretend this is some great software engineering feat that takes time for apple to get right. They could have made them function just like a pair of AirPods as far as connectivity and have been done with it.

I often forget about how impressive the syncing is with the AirPods.

However the HomePod isnt separating channels as much as they are separating sound. They space is “fuller” but not distinct. Since you can walk around total channel separation could sound worse from 2 homepods than one which wasn’t their intended goal at least through the homepods via Apple Music.
 
Not being able to use stereo pairing when playing back my own ALAC rips kills my central use case.

If they don't fix this until Mojave, that also kills my central use case, because my music server won't run Mojave.

They've designed it all to work like a dream as an Apple Music player. And it's looking more like a nightmare for any other use.
 
Not being able to use stereo pairing when playing back my own ALAC rips kills my central use case.

If they don't fix this until Mojave, that also kills my central use case, because my music server won't run Mojave.

They've designed it all to work like a dream as an Apple Music player. And it's looking more like a nightmare for any other use.

I don't see any changes in the first beta of 10.13.6 compared with the current implementation in 10.13.5 and iTunes.
 
Now that I have my new HP pair up and running, I can confirm, as other reported, that iTunes on 10.13.5 does not show the HP pair as a destination for streaming from iTunes library.
So, yes, this is a serious lack when one wants to stream his own private lossless files (I re-ripped my favorite CDs in ALAC, but still have to blind test if I'm able to hear a difference with the AAC streamed back from iCloud library on the HP).
Nevertheless, for everyday uses the setup is very handy. Being able to start a music session on the HPs from an iPhone and then controlling it from a Mac, and back and forth, is a cool feature that works with the stereo setup.
We'll see when Airplay 2 will come to MacOS.
 
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Being able to start a music session on the HPs from an iPhone and then controlling it from a Mac, and back and forth, is a cool feature that works with the stereo setup.
We'll see when Airplay 2 will come to MacOS.
Sounds good, but I haven't been able to navigate this trick. Would like to do it if iPhone is elsewhere and I'm on the Mac. My one attempt would only let one of the stereo HPs play, thus losing stereo. Can you help with some direction? Hoping this whole situation doesn't drag on until September.
 
Well here are some direction, see attached screen capture (in French but anyway…):
  • in iTunes on the Mac, click on the "airplay" icon in top toolbar. Be sure to do not direct the Mac sound to any of the two HP under the "computer" section of this menu. Leave it on computer as for now.
  • in that same menu from the airplay icon, you should see stereo pair of HP under the "room" name, listed in a section of the menu "switch to". Click on that row.
  • Now on, as long as the HP pair stays active in the toolbar (the airplay icon switch to blue) any selection you make in iTunes is driving the HP pair. This is the same as if made from the iPhone, music is streamed from Apple Music/iCloud Library.
  • You can keep the HP playing, switch back to the computer from the Airplay menu and launch another tunes on the Mac (just to see the point).
  • Now on you iPhone, same rule apply. If you connect the iPhone to the HP, it play its "local" tunes on the HP, and displays iPhone->HP as sound device (stereo able). But, alternatively, you can touch the airplay icon, switch to the "standalone" HP (device now is HP only) and drive what it plays from iCloud library.
  • So you can drive the HP from the Mac and the iPhone without any glitch, as if it was from the same "remote".
But, to be clear, in any case, you can't, presently, play you local Mac library ALAC files to the stereo HP.
Edit for more clarity, the sentence above should state "you can't, presently, play you local Mac library ALAC files, in stereo mode, to the stereo HP."
As other poster report you can play local file on both HP without stereo separation.

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stereo HomePod playback from iTunes needs iCloud music library to be on

Actually it isn't required, at least with iTunes 12.7.5.9 on a 10.13.5 iMacPro. I'm playing ALAC files from iTunes as I write this. Both speakers are firing, but as a mono pair I think. If you get the error message:

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then it is likely that the devices list in in iTunes looks something like this:

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The secret is to switch back to computer to get the device list to look like this:

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Now I can stream any of my iTunes ALAC tracks to the HomePod (mono?) pair. I spent a couple of hours on the line with Apple Support and we discovered this workaround.

I can confirm, as other reported, that iTunes on 10.3.5 does not show the HP pair as a destination for streaming from iTunes library.

Did you mean 10.13.5? As above it does, showing up in my case as Living Room (2).

But, to be clear, in any case, you can't, presently, play you local Mac library ALAC files to the stereo HP.

As above, yes you can, possible as a mono pair, with the workaround.
 
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Corrected a typo in my previous message: MacOS 10.13.5.
And yes your report and mine say the same : no stereo separation from iTunes Library to HP, for stereo one should stream from iCloud/Apple Music.
 
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