I have a 64GB new iPad. I'll definitely buy the Mini.
The best move for Apple is to discontinue the iPad 2 and replace it with the Mini. There's no reason for them to have 2 different 9.7" iPad models once the Mini debuts.
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Does New Touch Kill iPad Mini?
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I have a 64GB new iPad. I'll definitely buy the Mini.
The best move for Apple is to discontinue the iPad 2 and replace it with the Mini. There's no reason for them to have 2 different 9.7" iPad models once the Mini debuts.
Most of my friends have bought iPhones for their kids (on-contract) very cheap. So I doubt they are going to buy another iPad mini for their kids, even at $199.
Still believing iPad mini is a niche market, and the 4" Touch will make people think twice before pulling the trigger on a 7" tablet.
I wasn't expecting the new Touch to be such a good update. Now I'm considering it instead of the mini, so from personal point of view it might be true that the new Touch will undercut the mini. I guess it depends on what it brings to the table but if the mini is just an iPad2 in an 8 inch format then I'm not so sure if I would want it now. If it comes in a 3G model that might be a crucial factor in it's favor but that will raise the price significantly too. I guess we will just have to wait and see what it is but the Touch is now going to be a tough act to beat.
I'm one of those people. My wife and I have iPhones. I bought my wife an iPad for her birthday last year. My 15 year old daughter has had a 32 gig iPod touch for 2 years. Last Christmas she got a cheap (on-contract) iPhone.
But watching after movies/TV shows on the iPad or going back to the 3.5 inch (or even new 4 inch) screen sucks. It's fine in a pinch when it's just your phone, but when traveling for work, visiting family, etc it's a drop off. Unless I'm using my wife's iPad, I no longer download iTunes movies or TV shows for business trips. And we all fight over my wife's iPad on long road trips.
I would see the iPad mini as a replacement for her iPod touch to be used in conjunction with her iPhone. The same for me. If, and it's still a big if, the iPad mini comes in at the right price, it's a lot easier to swallow than a $700 iPad.
Me personally: I am waiting for the mini to replace my ageing ipad 1. If it doesn't come out, then I will wait till March time for when Apple will refresh the main iPad line, with the lightning connector, etc.
I have an iPhone 4 (Soon to be 5) so I personally would not have a need for the Touch.
I have an iPhone 4 (Soon to be 5) so I personally would not have a need for the Touch.
But the 4" is not in tablet size and the 7" is. Two different product categories. That said, there is no iPod mini.
Valid point. However to fit the iPad Mini in their lineup it has to make sense. With the new iPad at $499, iPad 2 at $399, and the new iPod Touch at $299 where would it fit?
their is market definitely and apple knows its real enemy is amazon kindle series so they wont skip 7 inch market for amazon kindle.
I put my money on 350 $ ipad mini.
lets see.
they also want to take out threat of microsoft surface.
so to undercut that, they will launch mini.
The specs are going be the difference. The iPad mini isn't going to have 32 gig. I'd hope for 16...I wouldn't be shocked at 8. It's not going to have the latest and greatest technology.
There are two different markets. The iPod Touch is for users who value the absolute best Apple technology, high storage capacity and utlimate portability. The iPad mini is for customers who want a bigger screen a more portable tablet and dare I saw a reasonable price.
$499 - 16 GB wifi new iPad
$299/$399 - 8/16 GB wifi iPad mini
$299 - 32GB iPod Touch
I know the last point is controversial for an Apple product, but Apple would take a major risk by conceding that market to the competition.
I completely agree with this. I also think that the potential physical size alone of an iPad Mini is a plus. For some of us, carrying (and using) the regular size iPad is too cumbersome. We need a larger screen than the Touch (old eyes!
), but want a form factor that is smaller than the regular iPad. The Mini appears to fill a valuable niche.
You sound very sure. Since it's NFL Sunday I'm in a wagering mood - do you care to place a wager on it. How about a $50 iTunes email gift certificate on whether or not they don't release a mini in the next 12 months?
The iPod Touch and (theoretical) iPad Junior would be aimed at two very different markets in the same way the iPhone and iPad do. For that matter Apple do the same thing right now with their laptop lines: the 13" Macbook Air and 13" Macbook Pro both start at $1,199.
Will the new Touch take some sales from the iPad Junior? Maybe, in fact almost certainly, but why would Apple care? It's still a sale to them and if the customer ends up with a better product for their needs then no problem there. We geeks have to remember it's not just a spec sheet, it's how people want to use the device and the extra screen size of an iPad Junior brings a lot of options that the Touch can't really deliver. Remember the new iPod Touch is effectively an iPad 2 under the skin so it'd be very easy to believe that an iPad Junior would use the same internals with a 7.something" screen at 1024 x 768. If they brought it in at $299 customers can make the choice between a 32Gb touch or getting 16Gb with the bigger screen of the Junior.
Looking at the price points we have right now it seems that Apple have a really easy and well thought out price structure for these iOS devices:
$199 - 4th Gen iPod Touch entry point.
$299 - 32Gb 5th Gen iPod Touch / 16Gb iPod Junior (likely same spec as iPod 2)
$399 - 64Gb iPod Touch / 16Gb iPod 2
$499 - 16Gb new iPad
The iPad range of course has a few wrinkles with mobile data models and extra memory for the new iPad but that can be ignored for this conversation. What you end up with is a really clean price structure for both the iPod Touch and iPad lines that is very simple for customers. Want an iPod Touch? $100 extra gets you more memory, same again if you want 64Gb plus you get the benefits of the 5th gen. iPad starts at $299 for the Junior, $100 extra bumps the screen size, another $100 gets you the new model with those extra benefits.
Will the new Touch take some sales from the iPad Junior? Maybe, in fact almost certainly, but why would Apple care? It's still a sale to them and if the customer ends up with a better product for their needs then no problem there. We geeks have to remember it's not just a spec sheet, it's how people want to use the device and the extra screen size of an iPad Junior brings a lot of options that the Touch can't really deliver. Remember the new iPod Touch is effectively an iPad 2 under the skin so it'd be very easy to believe that an iPad Junior would use the same internals with a 7.something" screen at 1024 x 768. If they brought it in at $299 customers can make the choice between a 32Gb touch or getting 16Gb with the bigger screen of the Junior.
Looking at the price points we have right now it seems that Apple have a really easy and well thought out price structure for these iOS devices:
$199 - 4th Gen iPod Touch entry point.
$299 - 32Gb 5th Gen iPod Touch / 16Gb iPod Junior (likely same spec as iPod 2)
$399 - 64Gb iPod Touch / 16Gb iPod 2
$499 - 16Gb new iPad
The iPad range of course has a few wrinkles with mobile data models and extra memory for the new iPad but that can be ignored for this conversation. What you end up with is a really clean price structure for both the iPod Touch and iPad lines that is very simple for customers. Want an iPod Touch? $100 extra gets you more memory, same again if you want 64Gb plus you get the benefits of the 5th gen. iPad starts at $299 for the Junior, $100 extra bumps the screen size, another $100 gets you the new model with those extra benefits.
Are you telling me carrying a display that is merely 2" larger is too "cumbersome"? Thats is just hard to believe.
When the Apple site came back up after the iPhone 5 announcement, the UK store briefly showed the iPad costing from £239 in the main store page. The iPad is usually from £329.
Obviously it could've been a typo, I wish I'd got a screen shot. For comparison the uk store is pricing the new iPod touch at £249. If it was an unintentional leak then it the iPad mini will be cheaper than the iPod touch. If only I'd got that screenshot!!
Obviously it could've been a typo, I wish I'd got a screen shot. For comparison the uk store is pricing the new iPod touch at £249. If it was an unintentional leak then it the iPad mini will be cheaper than the iPod touch. If only I'd got that screenshot!!
If the iPad mini is 7" and has the same number of pixels as iPad 1/2, then that's a Retina display.
It could well come in at $399 and replace the iPad 2
It doesn't seem like you've ever seen a 7" tablet in comparison to a 9". They are significantly smaller.Are you telling me carrying a display that is merely 2" larger is too "cumbersome"? Thats is just hard to believe.
Why not wait to actually see the iPad Mini for yourself before passing judgements on both the product and the people buying it.
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That does not give a good representation of the difference. A one dimensional number does not represent a three dimensional change at all accurately - think of the 10" ipad as 50% larger than the 8" mini. The mini will hold better in one hand and fit on small tables better. I'm thinking it will weigh about 25% less too.Are you telling me carrying a display that is merely 2" larger is too "cumbersome"? Thats is just hard to believe.
https://www.macrumors.com/2012/09/0...teractive-mockup-of-apples-rumored-ipad-mini/
https://www.macrumors.com/2012/09/10/ipad-ipad-mini-and-iphone-5-cases-compared-to-an-iphone-4s/
Are you telling me carrying a display that is merely 2" larger is too "cumbersome"? Thats is just hard to believe.
Yes, in fact I am. For me.
I don't expect everyone else to use a device the same way I do, or to prefer what I prefer. That's why I think the variety of design options is a positive step.
I'll be more specific: in the dark ages, I frequently used a leather valise that had an 8 1/2 x 11 note pad in it for work. Meetings, interviews, public hearings, whatever. I scribbled notes on the pad and later in the day, would go back to my office and decode everything, file snippets in various physical folders, etc.
Along came the iPad. The 'PAD' part isn't a coincidence. i tried to use it the same way, only digitally. And I could access tons of information from it. Internet access meant I had plenty of information right there with me. Someone would use a statistic that didn't seem right, or quote something that didn't resonate with me and I could check it relatively quickly. And I could have access to my files, notes etc without having to carry every single notebook I ever created with me.
But as great as the iPad is, the size and weight wasn't ideal. 8, 10, 12 hours a day holding it and using it was, indeed, cumbersome. Again, for me.
So I hope that an iPad Mini appears that allows me the same functionality but with a smaller form factor. We've long since passed the world as Henry Ford saw it- "You can get any color you like as long as it is black...".
And please don't take this as a personal issue pertaining to you, dchao, but I'll never understand why some folks get offended or bent out of shape because other's have a different need or intended use for a product. You buy what works for you and ignore what won't.
Based the same reason you gave. 4" iPod Touch is significantly smaller than iPad mini. This is why the new Touch is going to kill the iPad mini.
If not, why even bother to make a new 4" Touch? Apple should just keep on selling the old Touch and should have introduced a the iPad mini last week!
Are you telling me carrying a display that is merely 2" larger is too "cumbersome"? Thats is just hard to believe.
I wear labcoats at work. My iPad does not fit in its pockets, but a kindle fire fits in with no problem.