Contemplating getting one of these. I have a 13" Air. At first I had the 11'' Air, but I couldn't stand the small foot print because my wrists were too cramped and I just overall much preferred the 13". If this has the same footprint though as the 11", I honestly probably don't want it though.
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Does the macbook have the same foot print as the 11" air?
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Yup it basically does. I had a mid 2011 MBA 13.3" and a 2015 MBPR. And the first thing i noticed when i played with the MBR last Friday its basically the same footprint as the 11" MBA. You will deff see the difference in screen size. Granted you can prob adapt. But for now for me, I'm sticking with my 2015 Pro.
Im hoping V2 Apple makes a 14" version with the wrist rest space like the current MBA and MBP 13". I have big paws and my palms already land where the wrist should rest as it is. I think it would be uncomfortable for me with the 12" MBR.
That wrist rest space is value to some people, especially me and i don't travel. So i don't need the absolute lightest smallest footprint. I just can't go under 13" 🙁
I'm currently getting my Master's degree and take notes daily but I've never had issues hauling around my 13" air. I absolutely loathe the foot print of the 11". My wrists would hurt and it just wasn't comfortable at all. Looks like I'll be holding onto mine as well. I hear ya.
Yup i have big hands, typing on the current 12 MBR i would be like a robot cyborg lol. Its so beautiful but i really wish they had a 14" screen version the footprint size of the 13.3" MBA but obviously thinner.
wish they made a retina macbook with the 13 inch macbook air footprint, but with a 15 inch screen and 2.5 lbs.
Now THAT would be perfect.
Now THAT would be perfect.
Lobwedgephil
macrumors 603
Was wondering the same thing, from the website the dimensions look very similar. So I'm thinking we can even use a MBA 11" case for the MBr instead of waiting for MBr specific cases to come out.
MBA 11":
Height: 0.11-0.68 inch (0.3-1.7 cm)
Width: 11.8 inches (30 cm)
Depth: 7.56 inches (19.2 cm)
MBr:
Height: 0.140.52 inch (0.351.31 cm)
Width: 11.04 inches (28.05 cm)
Depth: 7.74 inches (19.65 cm)
MBA 11":
Height: 0.11-0.68 inch (0.3-1.7 cm)
Width: 11.8 inches (30 cm)
Depth: 7.56 inches (19.2 cm)
MBr:
Height: 0.140.52 inch (0.351.31 cm)
Width: 11.04 inches (28.05 cm)
Depth: 7.74 inches (19.65 cm)
Which again throws up the question: Why so many compromises to gain 4mm of thinness? Just squeeze in the retina screen in the 11" Air and keep the rest as is.... (sorry, daydreaming...)
Yup the moment i seen it in person Friday i knew that right away. Which was kind of a bummer for me. Not a road warrior, in fact my 13.3" 2015 MBPR will be used at home 95% of the time? I just scoot around my house with it in different locations from the bed, kitchen, living room etc.
I really hope Apple implements a 14" version with a similar footprint with a little bit more wrist surface area etc like found on the 13" models. My big paws combined with the loss of 1.3" of screen wasn't worth me passing on the 2015 MBPR Retina for technically cheaper. I only paid $1177 for the 2015 MBPR brand new including tax with the 10% i saved on it. Im a big guy, so to me it still feels light and my hands can somewhat stretch nicely when i type, even though the bottom of my palms land on the wrist rest area still.
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newellj
macrumors G3
Would need a major redesign to maintain battery life. Rather than invest more in an aging platform, Apple started from scratch with a new platform.
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Well the 11" Air has a 38W battery, the MBR a 39.7W battery, so I doubt that this makes a big difference. The reason the MBR can retain the same battery life (at least on paper - yet to be seen in reality!) as the 11" Air despite the probably higher consuming retina display, is the energy saving processor that doesn't need a fan.
So I stand with my argument, the retina display in the 11" Air would have been possible if they had wanted to do it. But since they are on their 'thinness trip' at the moment as seen with the iPhone and iPad, some new shell had to be developed for the sake of it. All the other so called 'inventions' (new battery design, keyboard, touchpad that does't move) were needed to allow for the 4mm thickness saving. There is no user benefit to it.
But
a) they needed news - fair enough, with Dell and others catching up on the hardware front
b) the new MB will be even harder to repair, I guess no user will ever be able to replace the battery for example. So nice extra income, not to mention the new accessories needed.
It's a nice machine and there is a good chance that I will own one some day (although most likely the improved 2nd or 3rd generation), but I stick with it: The 11" Air is a great form factor, perfect if the full available space was used for the screen.
msb3079
macrumors 6502a
I haven't seen one in person yet, but those that have - please correct if I'm wrong. The sizing seems to be close, with the MB being thinner but less wide and slightly deeper. So meaning it's thinner and light, but more of the general shape of all of the other MacBooks, whereas the 11" is shaped more "rectangle-ish" (even though they all are) than the rest of the group. But, overall size is close.
T'hain Esh Kelch
macrumors 604
Yes, the MacBook Air 11" has a screen ratio of 16:9 (which I really prefer), so that makes it more "rectangle-ish" (as you put it) than the rMB 12" which has a screen ratio of 16:10, which many other people prefer, because it gives you more height.
To me, the 16:10 ratio screens (also the MBA 13" has this ratio) lack the "cinemascopic" look, so they don't appeal to me. 🙂
16:9 is good for movies but that's it. I love that Apple has stuck to 16:10.
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The small wrist rest area on the 11" Air bothered me too. I wonder if it will be as severe on the rMB.
spaceballl
macrumors 68030
Bingo!
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Apparently some people rest their wrists on the front part of the notebook. I don't so it's not a problem for me with my 11" Air but other people seem to get sore wrists from the sharp edge (or something like that).
He isn't referring to the keyboard. He is talking about the small footprint where you lay your wrists when you are using it. The 11" one is smaller thus making your wrists more cramped and less comfortable. Wrists fits perfectly on the 13" model.
msb3079
macrumors 6502a
Yeah, I come more from a home theater background, so I'd typically prefer 16:9. I think it's odd that the iPhone is 16:9, but the MacBooks (except 11") are all 16:10, while the iPads are neither.
But, a 12" 16:10 screen will look bigger than a 12" 16:9.
True, but imagine a 14" 16:10 😀
I hate the 4:3 aspect ratio on the iPads, when i use the Air 9 times out of 10 i just use it in portrait to browse the web etc. Everything to me, looks odd in 4:3 in landscape.
msb3079
macrumors 6502a
Nah, I wouldn't want it larger than my current 13". Would have liked to see them fit the 13" in the new rMB but with the same casing - less black border.
Well wouldn't it be the same? I said 14" because they fit a 12" screen in almost the exact "footprint" dimensions of that of the 11" Air. SO i would assume you could fit a 14" screen in the same dimensions of the 13.3" 2015 MBPR. I say MBPR because although thicker... It has a "smaller" footprint than the 2015 MBA 13.3". Odd, but i guess thats how they spread everything out for the big battery. The bezels and wrist rest area is noticeably bigger on the 13" MBA as soon as you pick it up compared to my 2015 MBPR.
msb3079
macrumors 6502a
Yes, but I want a smaller footprint than my 13" rMBP. Just like the iPhones.. They could fit a 4.3" screen in the iPhone 5 casing, and I'd MUCH prefer that over the iPhone 6 size.
I understand, i don't travel maybe once a year? SO for me the 2015 MBR was sort of a impulse want because its the latest and greatest, and of course its sexy. Once i seen it in person it felt kind of small to me, granted I'm a bigger guy. It felt like if i were to give my iPhone 6 plus up for a smaller 6, which i never would.
I ended up picking up a 2015 MBPR for $1177 OUT THE DOOR from BB with 10% off. Thats a few hundred cheaper than the MBR and a much more powerful machine. To me the 2015 MBPR is still a VERY light machine for its power. Plus i got the new trackpad 🙂 I only move it around my house, I'm 6'2 225 muscular build, i have no problem moving about my house with it one handed lol.
I will admit when i played with the MBR last Friday and picked it up i was like 😱. This is light, like TOO light lol. Very sexy though 🙂
I ended up picking up a 2015 MBPR for $1177 OUT THE DOOR from BB with 10% off. Thats a few hundred cheaper than the MBR and a much more powerful machine. To me the 2015 MBPR is still a VERY light machine for its power. Plus i got the new trackpad 🙂 I only move it around my house, I'm 6'2 225 muscular build, i have no problem moving about my house with it one handed lol.
I will admit when i played with the MBR last Friday and picked it up i was like 😱. This is light, like TOO light lol. Very sexy though 🙂