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Dolby Vision coming to SONY TV announced this December.
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Damn! Interesting to see ZD9/ Z9D, XE93/ X930E and XE94/ X940E models all included too s well as the A1.
Having an Android platform would surely put me off though
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Thanks for thumbs up, bodybuilderpaul!
https://community.sony.com/t5/Telev...ware-update-going-to-be-available/td-p/650552
Woah, not updating the X800 bluray player is complete let-down.
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1504869984
https://community.sony.com/t5/Telev...ware-update-going-to-be-available/td-p/650552
Woah, not updating the X800 bluray player is complete let-down.
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1504869984
Yes, I instantly thought of You when I saw the updates info
Worrying that the 4K BluRay player isn't being updated to DV. Same with Panasonic. Although i'll admit, I bought my player (400) simply to play the occasion DVD / box set or BluRay film that is not available on iTunes (only about 6 in my collection - Studio 54, Talented Mr Ripley, The Rebound - for some reason not in the UK iTunes store or else I would have bought from iTunes instead).
It's the CES in January, so it will be interesting to see if new 4K BluRay players will have DV.
I really shows how hard and how much R&D Apple have put into the ATV 4K. It's amazing as it suits both the novis who is learning about the world of streaming to the ultimate home cinema enthusiast (once Dolby Atmos is added of course
.Still, adding DV support to a BD player is just a metadata pass-through issue. All heavy-lifting happens in the display.It's the CES in January, so it will be interesting to see if new 4K BluRay players will have DV.
I really shows how hard and how much R&D Apple have put into the ATV 4K. It's amazing as it suits both the novis who is learning about the world of streaming to the ultimate home cinema enthusiast (once Dolby Atmos is added of course
They already did add DV pass-through support to their 2017 AVR (STR-DN1080), so I wonder what prevents it from happening on the disc player.
Actually, the UHD Blu-Ray player does more than just "metadata pass-through"...the players require either a hardware DV decoder or a powerful enough processor to perform the decoding function in software. The AVRs are not required to do anything but pass the signal through to the display, which itself must have both DV decoding and DV display management capabilities. It's all in the official Dolby Vision White Paper.
It's so bizarre isn't it and totally confusing! So, some people say that 4K BluRay is the best way to view a film BUT the majority of the players DO NOT play the disc in the BEST variant of HDR which is DOLBY VISION. Currently there is Opposite or LG. But then when What HiFi tested the LG, they said that it was lacking in its audio performance - boring, I believe was the word used. And then, all of the Panasonic's have been criticised compared to its flagship model.
No wonder, the Apple TV 4K is such a gem.
Absolutely Archer and I wish that they could of used the LG WebOS rather than horrible Android for their OS. It would truly stop me from buying a SONY TV. Also, with SONY gear, i've never had a very long longevity from their products which i find alarming - 5 years compared to 10-15 years from Panasonic.
I truly love the design of the A1 I just couldn't bring myself to using Android on a TV and funnily enough, that seems to be the only thing that SONY are criticised for in reviews - that damn Android OS.
I have an A1E and yes Android isn’t the greatest but with the AppleTV 4K I never really use it. Not to mention that you can do a few tweaks to speed it up.
The LG OLED panel with the Sony X1 Extremely processor is really something special. I had the LG C7, which is an excellent TV, but I couldn’t handle the motion coming from a plasma TV.
Dan
I have been very disappointed with DV. The gains are so minimal that HDR10 is seriously just as good, and that holds true even with physical media. In fact some of the DV movies have issues with lip sync, letter boxes, etc. that I have been forcing my display to use HDR10
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Same display, but the Sony's handle motion much better. There is so much more that goes into a display than just the actual display. The software around it makes a big difference. I own an LG OLED, but would take the A1E over it any day.
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Same display, but the Sony's handle motion much better. There is so much more that goes into a display than just the actual display. The software around it makes a big difference. I own an LG OLED, but would take the A1E over it any day.
Sure, the controller is different. I don't have any issues with motion on my LG.I have been very disappointed with DV. The gains are so minimal that HDR10 is seriously just as good, and that holds true even with physical media. In fact some of the DV movies have issues with lip sync, letter boxes, etc. that I have been forcing my display to use HDR10
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Same display, but the Sony's handle motion much better. There is so much more that goes into a display than just the actual display. The software around it makes a big difference. I own an LG OLED, but would take the A1E over it any day.
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My nvidia shield is my go to device which is android tv. I have no issues with it. It's fast and works well.
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Plasma is not a sample and hold technology like LCD and OLED so the motion on Plasma is as good as it gets. To make up for this you need to use motion interpolation on LCDs and OLEDs. What I was saying was that the TruMotion on the LG is not as good as MotionFlow on the Sony. The Sony’s motion interpolation is very plasma like.
Dan
I seriously considered the A1 with the Black Friday deals, but 3 things put me off despite the high reviews:
- I reckon the price'll settle next year around £1-1,500 which makes it more palatable for the 55"
- Hoping for Atmos to be included in updated model
- Something retrospectively added is never as good as something designed in the 1st place for it aka DV.
I wonder, what value would Atmos bring to the 2-speaker setup that television has?
Besides extending the list of specs (and maybe a nice logo on the carton), I mean.
Or did you have pass-through from internal apps to HDMI-ARC in mind??
That one aleady works in that the Atmos metadata is preserved :
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...t-of-apple-tv-4k.2079246/page-5#post-25389527
So when I play the Dolby Atmos Amaze demo's DD+ track in Plex Android TV client, I get the Atmos from my AVR.
I completely agree. I would never not buy a TV because of its "smart" OS. I buy a TV based on picture quality and build. I have a Sony 900E -- best picture for the money I have seen anywhere, tried and true FALD LED technology. I only use the Android TV OS for Amazon at the moment, but as soon as Apple and Amazon get their act together, I will use the ATV 4K exclusively.
I would argue nothing beats the Vizio-P series in the price/performance category, but then I see the current price of the 900E. That is a great set and the price is so good. Sony has always been my favorite brand (for LCDs and now OLEDs) because of their motion processing. Samsung's motion processing, even with off, makes my head hurt.
I've been running an Amazon price watch on the LG OLED65E6P and there has been a $1600 decrease:
Looks as if the SonyXBR65A1E is matching the LG price:
but the best deal was the Black friday $2295 on the LG OLED65B7A, the lowest price ever for a current model of that size:
Looks as if the SonyXBR65A1E is matching the LG price:
but the best deal was the Black friday $2295 on the LG OLED65B7A, the lowest price ever for a current model of that size:
Just wish Apple would buy sony , that way they could replace the awful sony android total mess up os with something decent
They'd never do it as being honest, didn't SONY have its glory days in the 1970s, 80s and 90s? Apart from their good picture quality TVs (with awful Android OS), they don't really make anything desirable or even worth having on the domestic market. Sadly, SONY products never lasted very long with me - 5 years maximum.
i've got a sony 40w2000 that i use with a mac mini and it's outlasted two imacs and a mac pro which i've put into storage as i just can't throw away my old macs , my house is full of 'em lol
in the 80's and 90's i had the 27" profeel and the first sony widescreen tv the 2812 from 1994 , they had great pq but weren't terribly reliable , the profeel was a monster to take into service even with the grab handles
i've even got an lc2 and quadra 840av from the 90's that gave me great use, the quadra in particular was an amazing bit of kit for it's day
i agree about smart tv's being not very smart though
basically i want a basic good quality screen with some hdmi's without all that bizarre os clutter
the lg web os does look quite good , but the sony android mess up -- eeeurgh
if i want complications i just plug an apple tv in
that's WHY i want an apple TV not an appletv
which i've put into storage as i just can't throw away my old macs , my house is full of 'em lolin the 80's and 90's i had the 27" profeel and the first sony widescreen tv the 2812 from 1994 , they had great pq but weren't terribly reliable , the profeel was a monster to take into service even with the grab handles
i've even got an lc2 and quadra 840av from the 90's that gave me great use, the quadra in particular was an amazing bit of kit for it's day
i agree about smart tv's being not very smart though
basically i want a basic good quality screen with some hdmi's without all that bizarre os clutter
the lg web os does look quite good , but the sony android mess up -- eeeurgh
if i want complications i just plug an apple tv in
that's WHY i want an apple TV not an appletv
All of my Sony gear lasted years, some is still in use. I don't recall any of Sony gear failing. That includes a 13" trinitron TV I bought in college and lasted through the HD transition, and was still working when I donated it. All of our AV gear at work is Sony, and is probably 10+ years old. I've got a Sony clock radio from the 80s that's still working, and a bunch of Sony Mac peripherals from the 90s that still work. I've got a Discman and an MD recorder that's around 18 years old, all still working. Here's hoping my 2018 Sony TV continues that trend.
I do unfortunately. 2 PS3. One just the (new) BR Drive laser head. Which failed again out of warranty and I replaced it myself. Then the second fried one day (long time after I replaced the laser head).
Other than that never an HW issue. Only plenty of SW issues with that Android TV junk.