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Dolby Vision with 2017 Vizio M Series and Apple TV 4K

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KG87

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Hi everyone-

I set up the ATV4K in HDMI 1 with the Monoprice HDMI 2.0 cable from Amazon. It is plugged directly into the Apple TV 4K and I've turned on the UHD option for HDMI 1 required for HDR. HDR10 content appears as expected, but Apple TV picture is grainy when testing the Dolby Vision HDR.

Has anyone else had experience setting up this combination or do you have any suggestions?

Thank you.
 
running the UI (the main menus and such), and non HDR media in HDR mode, tends to give a less than optimal picture in my experience

what are you using to test the dolby vision? just looking at the menu in dolby vision mode?

hopefully this will fix in 11.2 when it will live in SDR mode, and only switch to HDR if the media needs it.
 
waw74 said:
running the UI (the main menus and such), and non HDR media in HDR mode, tends to give a less than optimal picture in my experience

what are you using to test the dolby vision? just looking at the menu in dolby vision mode?

hopefully this will fix in 11.2 when it will live in SDR mode, and only switch to HDR if the media needs it.
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I'm clicking on the 'Switch to Dolby Vision' option on the Apple TV 4K and it shows a menu saying to click OK if the screen doesn't look strange. Mine looks strange every time so I have to revert to 4KHDR10.
 
I had issues switching to Dolby Vision with my 2016 M series as well. This is what worked for me:

I switch to a different picture setting pre-set on my TV first, and then I switch to Dolby Vision. For some reason, it does not want to switch to DV unless I've switched between a picture settings pre-set (at some point since the TV's been turned on) first.
Kind of luckily for me, I have different picture settings for Dolby Vision that I switch to anyway. So I just need to change to that on my TV before I switch to DV on my Apple TV.

I don't know if it will be the same situation for you, but I hope that works.
 
In case anyone else runs into the same issue, after leaving the setup plugged in for 24 hours or so and having turned the Apple TV and 2017 M50-E1 on and off multiple times over that period, Dolby Vision at 60HZ worked fine.

The 2017 M-Series really has a phenomenal picture for a sub-$600 TV. Chef's Table on Netflix is a great showcase for Dolby Vision content.
 
I would say it sounds like a software issue if it is fixed by changing picture modes. It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to email their support team to let them know of the issue so they can roll out a fix in the future, or at least take a look at the problem.
 
KG87 said:
In case anyone else runs into the same issue, after leaving the setup plugged in for 24 hours or so and having turned the Apple TV and 2017 M50-E1 on and off multiple times over that period, Dolby Vision at 60HZ worked fine.

The 2017 M-Series really has a phenomenal picture for a sub-$600 TV. Chef's Table on Netflix is a great showcase for Dolby Vision content.
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I have an OLED TV (costs way over $600) as my family's primary TV in the living room. I am thinking about a Vizio M-Series for my bedroom because it's sub-$600 and supports both HDR10 and Dolby Vision. I think you just convinced me to buy one. If I do, I'm just gong to get the HDMI Apple sells to use with the ATV 4k because it was what solved my issues with the OLED TV and ATV 4k.
 
coolbreeze2 said:
I have an OLED TV (costs way over $600) as my family's primary TV in the living room. I am thinking about a Vizio M-Series for my bedroom because it's sub-$600 and supports both HDR10 and Dolby Vision. I think you just convinced me to buy one. If I do, I'm just gong to get the HDMI Apple sells to use with the ATV 4k because it was what solved my issues with the OLED TV and ATV 4k.
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Don't know where you are but if in the US, I would recommend Costco for purchasing a Vizio M-series. I purchased a Vizio M65-E0 at Costco for less than $1,000 along with a free additional year of warranty and am very happy with its picture and how nicely it integrates with the Apple TV 4K (just be sure to use the HDMI 1 port on the Vizio as that is the only "high speed" port and is required for using the Dolby Vision option on the Apple TV 4K). I adjusted some the settings of the Vizio using some the tweaks discussed in the review of the Vizio M65-E0 on AVSFORUM. Additionally I purchased at Costco the WireLogic HDMI cables that are 4K UltraHD/HDCP2.2/HDR and are rated to exceed 18 Gbps. 2 12' cables for $15 is a decent buy and work great using the Dolby Vision setting with the Apple TV 4K. Overall very happy with the Vizio M65-EO and Apple TV 4K combo.
 
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Don't know where you are but if in the US, I would recommend Costco for purchasing a Vizio M-series. I purchased a Vizio M65-E0 at Costco for less than $1,000 along with a free additional year of warranty and am very happy with it's picture and how nicely it integrates with the Apple TV 4K (just be sure to use the HDMI 1 port on the Vizio as that is the only "high speed" port and is required for using the Dolby Vision option on the Apple TV 4K). I adjusted some the settings of the Vizio using some the tweaks discussed in the review of the Vizio M65-E0 on AVSFORUM. Additionally I purchased at Costco the WireLogic HDMI cables that are 4K UltraHD/HDCP2.2/HDR and are rated to exceed 18 Gbps. 2 12' cables for $15 is a decent buy and work great using the Dolby Vision setting with the Apple TV 4K. Overall very happy with the Vizio M65-EO and Apple TV 4K combo.
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Thank you for this information!!!
 
Agent2015 said:
Don't know where you are but if in the US, I would recommend Costco for purchasing a Vizio M-series. I purchased a Vizio M65-E0 at Costco for less than $1,000 along with a free additional year of warranty and am very happy with it's picture and how nicely it integrates with the Apple TV 4K (just be sure to use the HDMI 1 port on the Vizio as that is the only "high speed" port and is required for using the Dolby Vision option on the Apple TV 4K). I adjusted some the settings of the Vizio using some the tweaks discussed in the review of the Vizio M65-E0 on AVSFORUM. Additionally I purchased at Costco the WireLogic HDMI cables that are 4K UltraHD/HDCP2.2/HDR and are rated to exceed 18 Gbps. 2 12' cables for $15 is a decent buy and work great using the Dolby Vision setting with the Apple TV 4K. Overall very happy with the Vizio M65-EO and Apple TV 4K combo.
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Trying to decide on a new tv myself and have been contemplating between the M65 vs. the P65 vs. LG OLED B7.
Does the M series have both DV and HDR 10?
 
surfer369 said:
Trying to decide on a new tv myself and have been contemplating between the M65 vs. the P65 vs. LG OLED B7.
Does the M series have both DV and HDR 10?
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Yes they do, both DV and HDR are built in. At least that is certainly the case with my 2017 M65-E0. Vizio is pretty good at updating their firmware as well. Overall it's hard to beat a Vizio price-wise considering its feature set. Would I like a LG OLED? Of course I would but at almost three times the price, it's hard to justify at least from my perspective.
 
I have a 2016 M60-D1, with the ATV4K connect to HDMI 1 using the hdmi cable that came with a Roku Premiere+ (since ditched), and DV works and looks fine. I re-calibrated the vizio using the THX app on on ipad airplayed to the atv (i.e. vizio seeing the doctored DV signal), and the pic looks great... none of the exaggerated colors others are moaning about. The pic did look "off" before the calibration.
 
oneMadRssn said:
I have fingers crossed for a sweet black friday sale on the M75-E1.
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At current prices, for the price of the M75 I think you would get more features with an LG OLED. I think Vizio is a real bargain when you buy 50-55 inch. I have not found any TV that has both HDR10 and Dolby Vision priced more competitively than Vizio M series 50-55 inch. However, Black Friday sales could change the scenario. Please post if you find a great bargain on the Vizio M series for Black Friday.
 
coolbreeze2 said:
At current prices, for the price of the M75 I think you would get more features with an LG OLED. I think Vizio is a real bargain when you buy 50-55 inch. I have not found any TV that has both HDR10 and Dolby Vision priced more competitively than Vizio M series 50-55 inch. However, Black Friday sales could change the scenario. Please post if you find a great bargain on the Vizio M series for Black Friday.
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I actually started a thread on this a little while ago: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/poll-collective-wisdom-what-kind-of-tv-setup.2080290/

The M75 is about $2k right now from good sellers. I will pull the trigger on it if it hits $1.8k over Black Friday - some on the SlickDeals forum expect it to get even lower though as rumors say most vendors have too many of them in stock.

The lowest price for a LG 65" B7 I have seen from a reputable seller with a good return / exchange policy is $2.2k, and people hope it will get under $2k on Black Friday.

I'm not such a huge movie buff that I think I would care so much about the amazing contrasts of OLED, but I do think I would enjoy the extra 10", especially in the room where it would go. So $200-400 more for a smaller, but demonstrably better quality, picture isn't worth it imo.

From my research, the M75 seems like the best bang for buck 75" TV out there today. Full-array local dimming, both HDR10 and Dolby Vision support, and good inputs, for $2k or less. The next comparable sets are from Sony, and they are quite a lot more money.
 
oneMadRssn said:
I actually started a thread on this a little while ago: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/poll-collective-wisdom-what-kind-of-tv-setup.2080290/

The M75 is about $2k right now from good sellers. I will pull the trigger on it if it hits $1.8k over Black Friday - some on the SlickDeals forum expect it to get even lower though as rumors say most vendors have too many of them in stock.

The lowest price for a LG 65" B7 I have seen from a reputable seller with a good return / exchange policy is $2.2k, and people hope it will get under $2k on Black Friday.

I'm not such a huge movie buff that I think I would care so much about the amazing contrasts of OLED, but I do think I would enjoy the extra 10", especially in the room where it would go. So $200-400 more for a smaller, but demonstrably better quality, picture isn't worth it imo.

From my research, the M75 seems like the best bang for buck 75" TV out there today. Full-array local dimming, both HDR10 and Dolby Vision support, and good inputs, for $2k or less. The next comparable sets are from Sony, and they are quite a lot more money.
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Don't hold me to this, but I think Costco is running or going to run a 65-75" Samsung QLED television before year's end. It'll be cheaper than the same model (they just change the name) from other stores, but it should still top out at around 2.6-2.9K. Which is pretty cheap. Can't beat their return and warranty either.
 
Zenithal said:
Don't hold me to this, but I think Costco is running or going to run a 65-75" Samsung QLED television before year's end. It'll be cheaper than the same model (they just change the name) from other stores, but it should still top out at around 2.6-2.9K. Which is pretty cheap. Can't beat their return and warranty either.
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Thanks for the heads up. I agree their return and warranty is top notch.

That is still quite expensive though...
 
oneMadRssn said:
Thanks for the heads up. I agree their return and warranty is top notch.

That is still quite expensive though...
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Says the patent attorney. Who charges obscene amounts... :p


... And who lives in one of the most expensive cities in the US. Unless you think you're hip and choose to live in a 'quaint' area like Brookline.
 
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Says the patent attorney. Who charges obscene amounts... :p


... And who lives in one of the most expensive cities in the US. Unless you think you're hip and choose to live in a 'quaint' area like Brookline.
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Correction. My firm charges obscene amounts. :cool:
 
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My local MicroCenter is now selling LG OLED in the Mac section and the 55 inch E7's seem to be dropping $100 every other week - About same price now at Best buy 's

I seem to remember they were $2,000.00 + early 2017 ?
 
Any good deals out there for a 55 4k tv. how important is DV, I ask because the sony 900e which has great reviews does not have dv. Shame that vizio doesn't offer M series in the 80" anymore. I already have an older 80" M series and don't want to go down to 75".
 
KG87 said:
The Vizio M55 is $100 off at Best Buy.
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Thanks for posting. With Black Friday a few days away, it’s about $100 off on most sites on the internet. I was praying for more like $200-$300 off! If anyone finds a killer Black Friday bargain for the Vizion M series, please post.
 
I just picked up the M75 over the weekend. It was the exact price I was hoping.

Anybody have a good calibration youtube video to use?
 
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