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I think the key difference here is:

It is entirely within Apple's power to change things in response to complaints. They have, sometimes, in the past.

Seattle can't change its weather very practically, NYC can't really make crowds go away, but Apple absolutely could make the high-end laptop many people have asked for. They may not, but you know what? They're a heck of a lot more likely to make it if people continue asking them to than if we all stop talking about what we want from computers.

Apple does have feedback forms, and does have people reading forums to keep an eye on consumer responses. They're not completely hostile to the existence of such feedback. It's just the people who are currently happy who are complaining about the feedback.

And some day, they'll take away a feature you wanted, and you'll mention that you liked that feature, and a bunch of people will jump on you for posting about it because why would you complain, clearly Apple knows what's best. And those of us for whom that first happened years ago will get our quota of schadenfreude. :p

They could but they're not going to that's my point. They could also make a computer that only ran Windows, or a phone that ran android. They're not going to and complaining isn't going to change their mind. I actually didn't buy the last gen MacBook because I felt I might need the DVD drive, and at the time I thought it was silly to take it away. We both had 4 years to complain. I did with my wallet you may have done with your keyboard and wallet, but that battle is lost. I'm doing the same complaining about the lack of headphone jack on the iPhone 7. That battle may be lost too but the jury is still out on that one. Maybe they'll continue the SE line.

I don't mind complaining I mind beating a very dead horse. Apple tends to jump the gun before most people are ready (or at least before people think the tech is ready). I thought the 1st iPhone wasn't smart, I needed a keyboard and stuck with Blackbery for a while. They had touch screen down and now it's basically the only kind of smartphone on the market. I'm not saying always buy into the apple hype, but be realistic about what to expect from them. They very rarely move backwards and none of their laptops since 2012 had a Cd drive. At this point it's almost as bad as asking for an iPhone with a slide out keyboard.

I know this might sound curt but if you want them to change you'll have to at least stear clear from the products that don't meet your standards. If you'll buy either way and pay for the privilege to get a drive or dongle why would they change?
 
I can't be the only one in the market looking for usb C to micro usb cable?
I need a cable to charge my MX Master, S6 Edge, Headphones and they all use micro usb...

But besides Belkin that makes a very basic one (also way too long) I cannot find any other brands that does them, I really like flat or braided colorful cables and like 20-50 cm...
If anybody knows something !

Thanks
- Braided in a vibrant black and a very colourful white. :)

https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matter...1478214463&sr=8-2&keywords=usb-c+to+micro+usb
 
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Anyone here ever tried the Hootoo Shuttle
http://www.hootoo.com/ht-uc001-usb-type-c-hub-charging-hdmi-apple-pd.html
https://www.amazon.com/HooToo-Shuttle-Delivery-Charging-Output/dp/B019R9ILTG

I think its nicely priced. Has a lot of reviews on Amazon (most seem fake though) And actually has some video reviews on Youtube and 2 reviews online

I know this has been discussed in past here on the forum, people did complaint powering two External HDD (or SSD) with it, or powering an SD card reader and an external HDD.
But what if you occasionally use it for External HDD and SD Card and never both at the same time ?
And Any idea how good is the HDMI
 
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I know this might sound curt but if you want them to change you'll have to at least stear clear from the products that don't meet your standards. If you'll buy either way and pay for the privilege to get a drive or dongle why would they change?

Maybe they won't. But they have in the past changed things I wanted changed, even though I bought products that didn't have those changes yet, so.

In short, the problem isn't that it sounds curt. It's that, while you may not think the complaints are changing anything, the complaints about the complaints definitely aren't going to help anything. They aren't going to help Apple make a better product, they aren't going to make anyone happy.
 
Maybe they won't. But they have in the past changed things I wanted changed, even though I bought products that didn't have those changes yet, so.

In short, the problem isn't that it sounds curt. It's that, while you may not think the complaints are changing anything, the complaints about the complaints definitely aren't going to help anything. They aren't going to help Apple make a better product, they aren't going to make anyone happy.

I don't litterally mean you. One sale means jack to them I meant people like you. Out of curiosity what product did you buy with a removed feature that later was re-added?

If me "complaining" gets people to look at other issues I think are more important and more likely to fix than it would help. I don't think they are going to make a heavier MacBook with a CD drive or Ethernet port no matter how much you complain. (I actually don't think it's a problem at this point tbh) Not because you don't complain enough but because they don't see it as an issue/problem. I do think they might fix the music app on the iPhone if people actually mention and report problems. I'm sure I'm not gonna stop you from talking about it but it's like pushing that boulder up the hill Sisyphus.
 
I can't be the only one in the market looking for usb C to micro usb cable?
I need a cable to charge my MX Master, S6 Edge, Headphones and they all use micro usb...

But besides Belkin that makes a very basic one (also way too long) I cannot find any other brands that does them, I really like flat or braided colorful cables and like 20-50 cm...
If anybody knows something !

Thanks
How about this one? http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=14949
 
It would be really smart if someone did a list of as many of these dongle things, with the specs (eg. "DisplayPort upto 60Hz").

On MR, or on a Google spreadsheet perhaps...
 
Ordered this adapter:
 

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have you received it yet ? or just ordered
if received your views ?

I've not received it yet, but I should hopefully get it sometime next week. I'll be back in this thread referencing AUKEY and write about what I think.

From the youtube videos I've seen of it, it seems pretty solid, but I understand it's not for everyone. I just liked it for its price point and ports (the only ones I really need), plus the form factor of the aluminum/shape.
 
I've not received it yet, but I should hopefully get it sometime next week. I'll be back in this thread referencing AUKEY and write about what I think.

From the youtube videos I've seen of it, it seems pretty solid, but I understand it's not for everyone. I just liked it for its price point and ports (the only ones I really need), plus the form factor of the aluminum/shape.
I could buy this and just buy a USB C card reader
That is still cheaper than buying something like a Hootoo USB c hub that has USB A port, Card reader, HDMI and USB-C Pass through and is quite dodgy from the reviews
 
I could buy this and just buy a USB C card reader
That is still cheaper than buying something like a Hootoo USB c hub that has USB A port, Card reader, HDMI and USB-C Pass through and is quite dodgy from the reviews

Plus you would het an extra USB A port as well. Hootoo I think has 3? So when you're not in need of SD Card reader adapter on too of this you have more USB A slots available.
 
I've not received it yet, but I should hopefully get it sometime next week. I'll be back in this thread referencing AUKEY and write about what I think.

From the youtube videos I've seen of it, it seems pretty solid, but I understand it's not for everyone. I just liked it for its price point and ports (the only ones I really need), plus the form factor of the aluminum/shape.
BTW, do you mind sharing the video links (reviews). I cant seem to find anything in english
 
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