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ApplesAndOrangs

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Well, this thread might get deleted since it is on a rumor site :D

But think about it; we would be perfectly happy with a 4s if it wasn't for all these rumors of bigger screen and aluminium back. We were pretty sure this was going to follow the S upgrade like the 3g. We kept our expectations way too high, in the end getting disappointed. It's a nice phone no doubt, it's just that we were so fixated on the bigger screen rumors...
 
Personally, I like the 4S, but I can understand why some people are really disappointed. Even without all the rumors, it is natural for people to expect drastic changes (like a new design/bigger screen or whatever), because it took so long for the phone to be released.
 
drb1992 said:
Personally, I like the 4S, but I can understand why some people are really disappointed. Even without all the rumors, it is natural for people to expect drastic changes (like a new design/bigger screen or whatever), because it took so long for the phone to be released.
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That's true. I don't think we would see any disappointment at all if this was released in June.
 
ApplesAndOrangs said:
That's true. I don't think we would see any disappointment at all if this was released in June.
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Trust me, no matter what is released, there will be disappointment.

"What? just a design refresh? UGH"
"What? Just a speed bump? UGH"
"What? Just another iPhone? No iPhone Mini? UGH"
 
drb1992 said:
Personally, I like the 4S, but I can understand why some people are really disappointed. Even without all the rumors, it is natural for people to expect drastic changes (like a new design/bigger screen or whatever), because it took so long for the phone to be released.
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I don't know why people expect drastic changes every year. It has been a pretty good pattern Apple has developed. One year is a drastic change, the next is a further refinement, and the model after that is another drastic change.

3G- change
3GS-refinement
4-change
4S- refinement
 
What rumors? This was Apple's most predictable event ever. All the specs were confirmed for weeks prior to the event.

It was the crazies who wanted a teardrop design (do people even think about how impractical that would be?) and edge-to-edge larger screen.
 
I can't wait to laugh at all the people saying Apple dropped the ball, when the sales numbers come out and show it selling more than the iPhone 4 did. People have no clue how the market works, they are only concerned with what they personally want.

Could Apple do better? Sure, but for what it is right now, this is still better than the iPhone 4.

If you already have an iPhone 4, is it worth getting? Probably not unless you are switching providers.

Still, it will sell more than the iPhone 4 did, mark my words.
 
Not really. It is Apple's fault for not managing expectations going into the event.

Personally, if Apple had made a simple controlled leak with WSJ that only 4S will be unveiled, I would have been only slightly disappointed. But, they did not. They let this anticipation stay, all the way until the end of the event. That is why I'm frustrated and angry at Apple, and specifically Tim Cook. If you never had plans to release the 5, why would you make people think you had plans to, and keep those rumors flowing? A simple controlled leak would have ended all false hopes and anticipation, and the outcome would have been much better.

Agree with me or not, but I think Apple is clearly at fault here. Especially Tim Cook. He did not manage expectations well enough. Rough start as CEO.
 
its apple way...and that is how to make money...can't change it every yr....

remember how long it took just for copy and past functions

also note, all the expensive stuff ie. mercedes, lexus, nikon, etc brands don't have major changes every yr...only the low end stuff
 
quagmire said:
I don't know why people expect drastic changes every year. It has been a pretty good pattern Apple has developed. One year is a drastic change, the next is a further refinement, and the model after that is another drastic change.

3G- change
3GS-refinement
4-change
4S- refinement
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We really only learned about this pattern today. Before today, we only had 1 iPhone refinement (which isn't exactly a pattern). Even if we knew about this pattern, it is understandable that people would expect drastic changes, because it took so long for this refinement phone to be released (which also means Apple broke a previous pattern of releasing an iPhone every summer). Nonetheless, we are pretty much guaranteed some drastic changes in the next iPhone.
 
Apple could have made a new phone but should they have made a new one?
I feel quite mad because i have an IPhone 4. If i had a 3g/3gs then i would welcome this with open arms. I expected a redesign all because of the tantalising rumours.

I just feel like Apple should be pushing harder to wow us. They have already (especially the IP4) but they have a lot more potentially they could have reached. All in all i guess i will stick with my IP4, wait until the contract is over and get an Ipad2 3g with the spare contract fee i will be ending.

I use my IPhone more for browsing and i don't use much of the minutes allocated so i am paying a premium for what i don't really use. So i can get a cheap sim only deal from Giffgaff and get an IPad 2 which i have wanted for a long time but not been able to afford. :)
 
I don't get why people think that the design that is the hottest selling handset EVER is suddenly going to tank on October 14.
 
People don't get it. The reason why Apple waited is so they could combine the iPod touch and nano event with the iPhone (Yes I said it). This time around next year, the 128GB Touch may come out, and then no more iPod classic.

This allows Apple to push out the new features all at the same time when the next iPhone update comes around, instead of touch users already getting a preview of what they're going to get with the iPhone and then naturally getting it with the iPod touch.

The reason why iPod touches didn't get Siri is it doesn't have A5 (which would make the touch too expensive to be at the $199 price), and it most likely requires a constant internet connection.

I am disappointed but happy at the same time about the 4S announcement. My carrier will not subsidize the purchase of the 4S (T-Mobile), but at least I hopefully will be able to pick one up unlocked new from Apple (like you can do with the 4 right now). But at the same time I am happy as I am excited for that camera.
 
I agree. Apple builds, by far, the best electronics of any company. Even so, it's not possible to build a device as good as the best parts of everyone's dream phone. Since everyone and their brother-in-law publishes their own rumor, we're left with this huge mix of rumors. BTW, stay tuned for the iPhone 6. It's a 4G phone with WiMax and LTE, double the battery life of the 4S, a quarter of the thickness, a 4K camera, 2TB flash storage, and a screen that can change from 2.5" to 6.5" (over WiFi or 3G/4G).

I think it's best to just remember that Apple has the best engineers and designers in their respective fields working for them. If they decided that this was the best route, you can probably bet they have a good reason.
 
drb1992 said:
We really only learned about this pattern today. Before today, we only had 1 iPhone refinement (which isn't exactly a pattern). Even if we knew about this pattern, it is understandable that people would expect drastic changes, because it took so long for this refinement phone to be released (which also means Apple broke a previous pattern of releasing an iPhone every summer). Nonetheless, we are pretty much guaranteed some drastic changes in the next iPhone.
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Sure only for the iPhone. Look at the iPod Nano. The 2nd gen was a refinement of the 1st gen. The 3rd gen was the exception, 5th gen was refinement of the 4th gen, and now the 7th gen is a refinement of the 6th gen.

Sure as the 3rd gen Nano shows, there are exceptions to this tick-tock update cycle, but Apple has been pretty consistent lately.
 
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