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Applespider said:
Can I revise that statement to say that 'drinking in moderation isn't bad for you'? I agree that if you drink enough that you aren't fully aware of what you are doing, then it can be bad for you. But a couple of glasses a couple of times a week isn't going to turn the average punter into a social reprobate.

People can die, commit murder, steal and fight whilst sober too.

Exactly. A blanket condemnation, or endorsement, of alcohol is just silly. A moderate amount of alcohol isn't unhealty, nor does it turn you in to some kind of social monster.

A moderate amount of food is good for you too. ;) But too much will make you quite unhealthy. Even exercise can be bad for you in excess.
 
Either way I can have tons of fun. I have gone to parties/events and have stayed completely sober and had tons of fun. Other times, I go out and drink and get faded and have tons of fun. It really depends on my mood.

As someone mentioned earlier, appearing drunk in public is not usually accepted around the US. Granted if you are on a college campus or within a block of bars/taverns then you should expect to see people out in public drunk. Other than that, it is frowned upon to be drunk in public.
 
As things were mentioned before, everything in moderation. I've gotton drunk on more than one occasion and had a great time but I didn't end up doing anything too stupid and was always around a group of people who could support me if I went to far which I thankfully haven't yet. There's a lot of stupid things that people do when they're drinking and probably a lot more when they're sober.

Moderation...
 
cycocelica said:
As someone mentioned earlier, appearing drunk in public is not usually accepted around the US. Granted if you are on a college campus or within a block of bars/taverns then you should expect to see people out in public drunk. Other than that, it is frowned upon to be drunk in public.

It's a misdemenor in most places.
 
Well, I am 17, and unlike many of my peers I have never been drunk. I obviously can't go out to clubs and drink and I have no desire to really go to parties where there is a lot of drinking. However, drinking is not taboo in my family. If my parents have a beer (which is fairly rare) they will let me and the older ones (raning 17-20) have a drink with them. Same goes with wine or some other drinks I have had with my parents over the years. Not a big deal. As for going out, I would personally go hang out in a coffee shop with Wi-Fi than go to a club, but that is just me. Also, we have a couple of coffee shops around here that often have live bands, I would much rather go to a coffee shop and drink expensive coffee while listening to a band, as I like the taste of coffee more than the taste of beer.

When I am of age to go to bars and such myself, I suspect that I will drink as for the social aspect, but I don't see myself getting drunk, or driving afterwards. Also I wouldn't mind being the designated driver, because like others I don't see the need to drink to ahve fun; however, like others I don't see a problem with moderate drinking.
 
I've actually been struggling with this for a little while now.

After leaving a big US university where drinking heavily was as normal as breathing, I've found it challenging to go to bars and not drink. Drinking gives me such an insane hangover, that the following day just gets canceled....also, I moved to BC where booze is retardedly expensive...($15.00 for a six pack!) So I just quit drinking altogether...BUT, when I wanna go out and mingle with friends it's "which bar should we go to...." So, it's been a conflict.

So, now I'll either drink redbull, or occationaly I'll order a Guiness because I think it has less alcohol...
 
Saturday night was a friends birthday and we didn't drink ANYTHING and we still had a blast. Normally we would be crunk out of our minds but we were already having so much fun nobody was even thinking about drinks. Of course we were blazed though, but still no akahol!
 
I don't like this thread. I'm a uni student and a wine rep.

In all seriousness, I think there's a time and a place for alcohol. Of course, ideally I'd say that moderation is the key too...


frankblundt said:
Please drink. Wine especially. NZ Sauvignon Blanc or Pinot Noir if you can. In moderation naturally, but not too moderate, my job depends on it.


I'd like to second this. Actually, I had a Seresin Riesling on the weekend and it was quite nice. It mimicked some Alsatian characteristics, which I thought was quite interesting.
 
The ladies seem to dig me more when I'm intoxicated, so I think I'll stay on my path.

Or maybe its cause theyre drunk...
 
w_parietti22 said:
Well Im 14, so I've only had a glass of wine in Italy. I've also had a sip of beer (BLEK! :eek: )

Give it time my son, soon the amber nectar will show it's true power to you - it will make you invincible, amazingly attractive, a brilliant dancer and the greatest singer in the world.

Eat, drink and be merry my friends, all in moderation blah blah blah I'm off to the UniBar for a pint.
 
Applespider said:
Do you sell it or produce it? And if you produce it, then which vineyard should we be looking out for? I enjoy both ;)
I don't personally do either, but the people i work for do - i had a Peregrine Pinot the other night that was amazing, Gibbston Valley's is pretty incredible too. (neither of which are ours - we do the Montana range which is pretty good to great depending on how much you want to pay) My wife swears by the Stoneleigh Sauv Blanc. Personally waiting for a local Syrah that will come close to the Delas Crozes-Hermitage that i used to be able to afford (pre-child).

I drink virtually every day, but haven't been hang-over drunk in years. Light beer got me through to dawn on New Year's Day (i can't believe it's virtually nonexistent in most other parts of the world)
 
frankblundt said:
Fine nose, good bite, solid body and a bushy tail?


Strong liquidity - the ability to turn a solid lunch into a mushy liquid...

I sell Seresin and Neufdorf Sauvignon Blancs quite easily. You guys do them well (of course, our McLaren Vale begs to differ). :p
 
if you are a person who does not drink, and then goes out to the bar with friends, what drink would you order (non-alcholic)?

I'm underage, so ive never been to a bar. And I do not plan on drinking. So what would I get when the time comes when my friends and I go to the bar? :confused:
 
Applespider said:
Can I revise that statement to say that 'drinking in moderation isn't bad for you'? I agree that if you drink enough that you aren't fully aware of what you are doing, then it can be bad for you. But a couple of glasses a couple of times a week isn't going to turn the average punter into a social reprobate.

People can die, commit murder, steal and fight whilst sober too.

I agree but isn't alcohol an inhibitor? I mean how many fights do you see drunks having, how many police folk do you see outside of night clubs at night? Me and a few mates were driving through Oldham the other day, it was a sunday night! Yet the clubs were open and open and pretty much each one had 2 police stood outside.
People who would murder, steal and fight whilst sober should never drink. That's when bodies end up being dragged behind cars for a mile or 2 by a drunk driver, when kids get petrol poured on them and set alight and the rest.

People do fight whilst sober yes. But it's usually about bigger things than just "he looked at me funny".

I'd like to say too that that little bit can lead to a lot. I bet there are very few people (maybe none? I don't know) who have always drunk a little yet have never been off their face.
 
It's funny though. A guy says "dont drink and have fun!" and the drinkers here come out in droves to say that that's wrong, in their gentlest way though. Like in that "whats your favourite cigarette brand?" that was just stock full of people shouting "DONT SMOKE!" and that.

If you don't drink, good on ya. Think Differently and that. Plus you can say you never had a drink, even though it was offered down every road you walked. You never gave in and you probably have a lot more willpower than somebody who did drink. Congrats. You're a strong person.
 
If it is a night out, I don't mind not drinking - in fact I prefer not to be mobile when thoroughly intoxicated.

I am much more likely to get wasted when out for dinner at a friends house/close to home/on vacation. Not the falling down/vomiting drunk, just very nicely falling asleep drunk.

Had my share of all night partying. I think I was done with it four or five years ago. A nice bottle of wine and a movie suits me just fine.

In answer to the question - I hate being around a bunch of drunk people.
 
I can totally respect those who choose not to drink - it can be a difficult choice among certain social circles. Yet I certainly don't condemn those who do, though I wish a certain % could/would turn it down a notch - those who define their lives (social or otherwise) through alcohol consumption are unfortunate.

As for myself, I started drinking (relatively) late in life (23) and drank lightly - as I more enjoyed the "herbal" solution. As time went on, I found myself drinking more and smoking less. I rarely drink at home - it is strictly a social activity.

I also have a mild allergic reaction to alcohol (I get flushed and hot), which has helped me to moderate my alcoholic consumption, though it manifests itself erratically. Still, all my scars glow all red as the allergy progresses, so I can look down at one on my wrist and it is an alcoholic "Logans Run". I used to hate it, but I now love the fact that it has kept me responsible with alcohol (as a rule).

Still, I enjoy going out and having a few drinks, as I am kinda shy, and enjoy the "social lubricant" aspect of drinking. The strange thing is how different people's reactions are to alcohol. Some get so drunk, others not so much - some are obnoxious or aggressive, some are calm or hilarious. Personally, I lose motor-coordination first ( I walk poorly), but have a clear-head till the very end. There have been so many times where people have all nominated me as the person to drive everyone home until we all get up to leave and I am walking like I am on a rolling ship. Ah well...
 
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