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Downvoting - More cons than pros
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Its primary purpose was to provide a negative feedback mechanism for the article comments, which is why it exists where it does.
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Overall, if you're going to have a like button, I now believe to balance things out, you have to have a dislike, or downvote.
Hovering over the icons should show the number of posters who selected it.
So if I see a post with a row of emoticons I;d like to hover over the like/dislike and get a feel for the numbers. Having to click and expand the entire list wastes clicks
So if I see a post with a row of emoticons I;d like to hover over the like/dislike and get a feel for the numbers. Having to click and expand the entire list wastes clicks
Hahaha, that's the "drive by" I've mentioned in another thread (on this same topic). There's a couple of users right now doing it - I was curious as to why several posts from "forum regulars" had a Disagree, and they were technically accurate, and mostly just a positive opinion on an Apple product. Well, that's it, these same couple of bozos "disagree" with anyone posting anything positive (and a quick review of their post history shows them to be mostly cranky and confrontational).
Hahaha, it's the equivalent to me saying, "I like blue", and you screaming "I DISAGREE!"
Those aren't "Disagree" responses, they're "I dislike you / your opinion".
I feel a little sorry for those types of users, they seem like sad, unliked, miserable human beings, but they also give me a little chuckle thinking of them sitting there, all stressed out, furiously clicking Disagree till they run out of the day.
I guess at least it is a "dislike" button. I've had the equivalent sort of things on other sites, but the reaction to "I think cheese is nice" is "Incorrect".
Hence my disdain for "down voting" without some kind of qualifier.
Cheese is nice is a scientific fact.
Yeah, the response mechanism is funny, in fact, the "funny / laughing" has became a double-edged sword. In most areas of the site, it's a "Oh, that's a very funny post", but in some areas (and very much so in PRSI), it's often used as "You're an idiot, I'm laughing AT you, not WITH you ..."
I love the idea someone posted (er, might have been you), about a qualifier, but that's getting into a granular level that should really be taken to a full on text reply - Dislike almost needs to be like Report, you get a popup that requires textual support to the Dislike.
Same here. I don't care if someone disagrees with me. I don't see why I should get a notification about it though if I don't want them. If you want notification for "likes" you have to also get notification for "dislikes". I often keep contributing to interesting conversations with people who "like" my posts. I've had some angry/unpleasant people "dislike" my posts that I certainly don't want to be notified about or argue with.
Typically, for a post like this where I simply agree and feel no more is needed, I'll like and move on, same could be said if I disliked.
I think the ideal system would use qualified downvotes almost like a 'reporting' system, as you say (but with quite specific reasons as part of the qualifiers) - off topic, spam, abusive, etc. A single click reaction to something you merely disagree with is next to useless IMO. If you disagree for an actual reason, you can type a reply to refute the post you disagree with.
Like everything, this needs a qualifier. Halloumi is most definitely not 'nice'.
this is 100% crazy. the downvoting has zero to do with "not being able to take dissenting views"
Its just the friggin opposite! Those that dont hold the views of the crowd are attacked and attacked. Because they know that on reddit, your account will be hurt. You will be blocked from making top posts.
I went from 2 karma (thats what you start off with) to having -88 karma within a single day, after being aggressively attacked for speaking opposite of a behavior.
Its just the friggin opposite! Those that dont hold the views of the crowd are attacked and attacked. Because they know that on reddit, your account will be hurt. You will be blocked from making top posts.
I went from 2 karma (thats what you start off with) to having -88 karma within a single day, after being aggressively attacked for speaking opposite of a behavior.
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Or maybe it's somewhat different as to how it's implemented here?
The scenario you described in all likelihood won’t happen here due to the strict moderation rules. The downvote button is referred to as disagree and is only available in certain forums. MacRumors is not Reddit.
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Apparently. But I am not seeing it in Tapatalk, and don’t care for it either way.
Not really big problem, but when I exposing factual Apple compromise on some feature, sometimes I had some silent disagree.
Still get several people agree with me but had disagree without reason. Previously without disagree button people would quoting and explain why.
E.g recent case of fragility of nano texture with exorbitant price but ultimately weak and fragile compared with another brand which is already had etched glass solution three years priors Apple and extremely durable. I only speaks stuff which I owned, knows and working with so I quite curious with their response.
I think for some folks who doesn't fond of downvoting, just refrain commenting from vague territory and other topics which we don't knowing deeper or familiar with.
Still get several people agree with me but had disagree without reason. Previously without disagree button people would quoting and explain why.
E.g recent case of fragility of nano texture with exorbitant price but ultimately weak and fragile compared with another brand which is already had etched glass solution three years priors Apple and extremely durable. I only speaks stuff which I owned, knows and working with so I quite curious with their response.
I think for some folks who doesn't fond of downvoting, just refrain commenting from vague territory and other topics which we don't knowing deeper or familiar with.
I love the 'thumbs down' or 'angry' for people the just post nonsense that doesn't contribute to the conversation, examples:
Recent HomePod Sale
Someone posts "what are homepods good for anyway?" Thats just dumb, look it up.
Recent MR giveaway:
Someone posts "this is the dumbest product", ok, thats your opinion but did you do anything to contribute to the conversation? Maybe the sad face would be better in this case.
Yes, there are some that just live to do thumbs down drivebys but I think the overwhelming number of reactions are legit (outside of PRSI).
Recent HomePod Sale
Someone posts "what are homepods good for anyway?" Thats just dumb, look it up.
Recent MR giveaway:
Someone posts "this is the dumbest product", ok, thats your opinion but did you do anything to contribute to the conversation? Maybe the sad face would be better in this case.
Yes, there are some that just live to do thumbs down drivebys but I think the overwhelming number of reactions are legit (outside of PRSI).
Yes it does say disagree right? And it's not like Reddit where enough negative karma could actually affect using the site? The only way you could tally it would be to check all of someone's posts and manually count the disagrees?
For most of these, I think they just like a personal answer instead of a robotic one. I do agree they could reword it to "What are your favorite uses for your Homepods?"
I would honestly rather just get the thumb down instead of a comment "That idea, is just, the worst" with no further explanation. Like someone said about the product one, don't just comment one of them stinks. There was one with a list, and I can't remember the product right now, but someone gave a list of things they didn't like, and I agreed with all of them. That was definitely better than just one sentence that it is the worst.