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Dr. Ed Catmull and Larry Ellison Remember Steve Jobs

Piggie said:
Well, I would not quite go that far.
Steve had a very narrow minded elitist view of the world and only preached to the top layers of the community.

Seeing him speak to high students about how they must individually strive to be the best, as he thought everyone should, be inventing things, starting companies and doing all they can to be high fliers.

Really Steve well, that's all dandy.

So tell me Steven who is going to empty your trash can, maintain the sewage plant so your toilet takes your waste away, clean the streets for you, and even assemble the products nice and cheap for you?

Oh, you mean those people that you don't think exist in the world?

If everyone followed Steve's advice the whole world would grind to a halt.
If it was not for the people he was not interested in, then there would be no Apple.
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What's wrong with inspiring high school students? It would be silly if the crowd he was trying to inspire were 60 year olds, but not HS students.

Clown Boy said:
Sentimental nonsense. Let Steve RIP. People need to let go.
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It's generally customary to allow a year for people to mourn and reflect on so,eone's passing. Why are you so rushed to forget him?
 
Piggie said:
Well, I would not quite go that far.
Steve had a very narrow minded elitist view of the world and only preached to the top layers of the community.

Seeing him speak to high students about how they must individually strive to be the best, as he thought everyone should, be inventing things, starting companies and doing all they can to be high fliers.

Really Steve well, that's all dandy.

So tell me Steven who is going to empty your trash can, maintain the sewage plant so your toilet takes your waste away, clean the streets for you, and even assemble the products nice and cheap for you?

Oh, you mean those people that you don't think exist in the world?

If everyone followed Steve's advice the whole world would grind to a halt.
If it was not for the people he was not interested in, then there would be no Apple.
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Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, There's NO WAY of Satisfying TROLL Anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Go Back to Your Can!!!!!!!!!
 
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Not sure what a one-one-one interview is but I bet it's legendary.
 
Am I the only one who is vaguely disturbed by this constant need to rake up dead celebrities by people in the media? It's like they are using people's memories as 'hamburger helper' to help sell their newspapers/website/event and I'd actually be really happy if they stopped doing it.
 
Chundles said:
"Legendary" CEO?

Larry Ellison has fallen into the realm of legend now? I can just picture him standing next to King Arthur and Beowulf.
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Between his attitude, his product portofolio and the ubiquity of his company, yes, I'd say he's pretty much a legend. Guy is the Steve Jobs of Enterprise IT. You love to despise him, yet you can't help but use his products and the competition is years behind.
 
Chundles said:
That's brilliant!
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Thanks, I wish I could take credit. Years ago a book published about him was titled "The Difference Between God and Larry Ellison (God Doesn't Think He's Larry Ellison)."

L


But I will take credit for remembering.
 
I remember attending Larry Ellison's keynotes on the first night at Oracle World 2011 last year in SF, then a few days later Steve Jobs passed away.:(
 
Random question, but why is this repeatedly referring to him as Dr. Ed Catmull. First, I don't think Macrumors generally singles out those with doctorates, and I don't think the site is going to start calling all attorneys doctors. Is it just a bot thing or what?
 
gco212 said:
Random question, but why is this repeatedly referring to him as Dr. Ed Catmull. First, I don't think Macrumors generally singles out those with doctorates, and I don't think the site is going to start calling all attorneys doctors. Is it just a bot thing or what?
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Dr. Ed Catmull with his Ph.D. in Computer Science is a pioneering Computer Scientist in Computer Graphics. His studies in mathematics and physics were put to good use with a Ph.D for CS.

Z-buffering and many other innovative ideas have all become reality.

Renderman being one of them.
 
gco212 said:
Random question, but why is this repeatedly referring to him as Dr. Ed Catmull. First, I don't think Macrumors generally singles out those with doctorates, and I don't think the site is going to start calling all attorneys doctors. Is it just a bot thing or what?
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Do you have a diploma, associate degree, bachelor, masters or phd ?

As someone said above, some of these degrees represent difficult qualifications and merit which is often a result of research that contributes to a field or industry. Dr. Ed Catmull did not single handedly create everything in the 3D and motion picture field but certainly was a key player in what you and many take for granted today.

I don't know about you but it's something that I respect and society should also acknowledge someone's hard work, commitment, dedication and research which impacts society. If you studied at university at a higher level or for a long period of time you would know how of difficult and challenging it really is.
 
mdriftmeyer said:
Dr. Ed Catmull with his Ph.D. in Computer Science is a pioneering Computer Scientist in Computer Graphics. His studies in mathematics and physics were put to good use with a Ph.D for CS.

Z-buffering and many other innovative ideas have all become reality.

Renderman being one of them.
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I'm well aware of Catmull's qualifications as a huge fan of Pixar. That still does not explain why a news website would choose to signal him out as a doctor every time they use his name when they do not do that for every other doctor mentioned by the website. If the site is going to refer to him as Dr. Catmull, it should also be using the term Mr. Mossberg similar to how other publications refer to them (WSJ, etc.). It just seems out of place on the site.
 
KnightWRX said:
You love to despise him, yet you can't help but use his products and the competition is years behind.
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I do not know which of Oracle's products you think the competition is years behind. But it is not true in many cases. SAP recently surprised them with an in-memory DB and Oracle is catching up. Salesforce.com is way ahead of Oracle in CRM.. etc.

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It is a bit annoying to hear Larry Ellison referring to himself as a programmer. I do not know much about his background but I am assuming he was a genius programmer a few decades back, but it is still weird for him to refer to himself as that. Had he said he is a computer scientist by training or whatever, then it does not sound too bad.

Second, this three people format did not work for this kind of remembrance and tribute. These two are fighting about how to characterize Steve Jobs. LE seems to be on this 'I am a bigger friend of SJ' mode trying to outdo the Pixar Dr. But I am glad they did it, some of LE's anecdotes about SJ are funny.
 
gco212 said:
I'm well aware of Catmull's qualifications as a huge fan of Pixar. That still does not explain why a news website would choose to signal him out as a doctor every time they use his name when they do not do that for every other doctor mentioned by the website. If the site is going to refer to him as Dr. Catmull, it should also be using the term Mr. Mossberg similar to how other publications refer to them (WSJ, etc.). It just seems out of place on the site.
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This is a function of lazy writing, but even more so, of poor editorial oversight. It's an editor's responsibility to enforce stylistic consistency. The traditional media used to do a good job at this, but with the decline in the media economy, these outlets found editorial to be one of the easiest places to make cuts. And since most of the non-traditional media sources have never had much if any editorial oversight, a steady deterioration in written communication quality became the clear trend.
 
Swisher is an imbecile. She comes across as someone that read the first 3 sentences of their Wikipedia page in front of Gates, Ellison, Jobs, Page/Brin, and Zuckerberg.

Charlie Rose has done far better interviews with these guys.
 
Piggie said:
Well, I would not quite go that far.
Steve had a very narrow minded elitist view of the world and only preached to the top layers of the community.

Seeing him speak to high students about how they must individually strive to be the best, as he thought everyone should, be inventing things, starting companies and doing all they can to be high fliers.

Really Steve well, that's all dandy.

So tell me Steven who is going to empty your trash can, maintain the sewage plant so your toilet takes your waste away, clean the streets for you, and even assemble the products nice and cheap for you?

Oh, you mean those people that you don't think exist in the world?

If everyone followed Steve's advice the whole world would grind to a halt.
If it was not for the people he was not interested in, then there would be no Apple.
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This is not an attack against you cause most people in the world have no idea what is possible with todays technology.

Someone already wrote it....ROBOTS!
These machines will do almost every job you could think of and that will give us HUMANS to become a real society without poverty, war, leaders, politics and all the other nonsense we face today.

Everyone is born a scientist, we all wanna explore what is out there.
It's the crap people get up with at school, on television etc. which makes people think they are stupid or smarter then their neighbor.

Whetter you think its a good or bad idea the whole world will be automated.
We will have a true one world economy without money, without crap, without stupid jobs but with more health, more freedom, true richness and amazing creative minds doing the best that they can. (or we make this planet unbearable)

Please watch the next movie (read the FAQ) if you want to know more about what I'm talk about. This is no science fiction.... this is what we all should be doing. http://www.paradiseoroblivion.com/watch.html

I never got the change to email Steve Jobs about this.
I miss the guy for all the good he did while he was alive. He will always be a big inspiration to me.
Steve was all about doing the best you can be but you got to have the freedom to do so. Most people in this world don't have that luxury and that's so sad because it doesn't have to be.
 
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