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DSC-HSDPA vs LTE

dchao said:
8-9 down with Three? That's pretty good indeed. I can only get 4-5 here in central London. The main difference in LTE is the uplink speed.
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Yep, it was pretty awesome

Lunfai said:
They are? Like a dongle adapter for a sim card? Or an actually wired broadband connection?


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What phone are you using? Or dongle?
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Fibre Broadband

iPhone 4S :) Well, I was - I'm stuck on O2 as I don't have an iPhone.
 
Cherimoya said:
It's impressive but only in the same way that a Ferrari can go 200mph. What's the actual use case on a phone? I'd much rather have say a solid, uncapped 5mb everywhere than a capped super fast connection in just a few hotspots.
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I agree, we don't need 10+ Mbps uplink from a cellphone :p

But dont forget, with LTE network, it's not time divisioned, so you have much larger total network bandwidth per cell. It should help in a very crowed area.
 
ct2k7 said:
Yep, it was pretty awesome

Fibre Broadband

iPhone 4S :) Well, I was - I'm stuck on O2 as I don't have an iPhone.
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Oh Fibre, yeah mobile speeds are not even close to fibre yet. Yeah explains why you got 8-9 down, it's because the 4S has support for HSPA+ whilst the 4 doesn't, meaning dchao might have only got got around 4-5 Mbps because his max speed is HSPA.
 
Lunfai said:
Oh Fibre, yeah mobile speeds are not even close to fibre yet. Yeah explains why you got 8-9 down, it's because the 4S has support for HSPA+ whilst the 4 doesn't, meaning dchao might have only got got around 4-5 Mbps because his max speed is HSPA.
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With LTE , 20-30 mbps can be easily achieved. That's close to fibre speed.
 
Will be interesting to see how EE price 4G. With them having a monopoly on 4G, they could charge a hefty premium to get a return on their investment, however they want to encourage people to switch. While 1GB data/month on 4G will probably be similar to current rates, I imagine that they will charge much more for 2GB+ which - lets face it - you will need to make best use of 4G.

I'm sure DC-HSDPA will be slower than 4G but for loading web pages it should be enough. I do most of my data heavy lifting on unlimited home broadband and so use of data is in the 500-600MB/month range most months and that's mainly because of checking work emails.
 
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dchao said:
With LTE , 20-30 mbps can be easily achieved. That's close to fibre speed.
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On Virgin Media Broadband (Fibre) living in a 150 Mbps area, I get around this speed:

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(This isn't mine, I'm currently at work dying away, so I can't test. They're on Plus net :/)
 
Will Three's DC-HSDPA use frequencies compatible with iPad 2 and Galaxy S3? I really hope so, because I typically get 2Mbps, up to 5 in off-peak times. Would like to make better use of my 25GB iPad plan and unlimited phone plan.
 
O2 dc-hsdpa

Just wondering if anyone knows which cities O2 have rolled this out too.

There are google references from May 2012 that they'd started but no further info since. This is especially interesting after O2 appeared on the Apple keynote!

Just wondering if anyone has any ideas? I'd like to get faster speeds with the iPhone 5

Ta :)
 
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Dangerous Theory said:
Is this a certainty? Poster above said they were compatible :/ Did you find the frequency used for Three's DC-HSDPA?
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Sorry, I meant that the S3 will be compatible. The iPad 2 won't be. It would be launched on the same 3G frequency as UTMS/HSPA etc.
 
ct2k7 said:
Sorry, I meant that the S3 will be compatible. The iPad 2 won't be. It would be launched on the same 3G frequency as UTMS/HSPA etc.
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Both iPad 2 and S3 are compatible with the same UMTS/HSPA frequencies (850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100) I can't find Three's HSPA frequency but if it works on one it has to work on the other?

EDIT: S3 has HSPA+ (21Mb) with those frequencies, while iPad 2 has HSPA (7.2Mb). iPad 3 is the only one that specifically mentions DC-HSDPA in it's specs so does that mean S3 and iPad 2 both in fact can not utilize DC-HSDPA?
 
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Dangerous Theory said:
Both iPad 2 and S3 are compatible with the same UMTS/HSPA frequencies (850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100) I can't find Three's HSPA frequency but if it works on one it has to work on the other?

EDIT: S3 has HSPA+ (21Mb) with those frequencies, while iPad 2 has HSPA (7.2Mb). iPad 3 is the only one that specifically mentions DC-HSDPA in it's specs so does that mean S3 and iPad 2 both in fact can not utilize DC-HSDPA?
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I don't own the S3, but iPad on the Three network is HSPA+, and iPad is so fast, it make tethering just like on a landline broadband. I am now getting 7-10 mbps on a good day.
 
dchao said:
8-9 down with Three? That's pretty good indeed. I can only get 4-5 here in central London. The main difference in LTE is the uplink speed.
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I got 13.2mb down (2.1 up) in Swansea last week on Three 3G

BTW, HSPA+ (Which AT&T claimed was 4G) has a max of 21mb up whilst DC-HSPA+ has a max of 42mb
 
Lunfai said:
I think it's more for the fact that 4G will eventually become a major consumer product that replaces home broadband. The idea behind the fact that you can carry a dongle around with you to use the internet can be something much more desirable. The speeds are finally catching up to the speeds that broadband can achieve, and hence they're going to push it as a service which can replace home broadband all together.



I think there priority right now is to implement it everywhere, once that happens (which will take A LONG time for US haha), they'll be working with it to make it faster.
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verizon covers 75% of the US population with LTE :p
 
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